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Old Jul 18, 07
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Can you cure a cocaine addict?

can you cure a cocaine addict?
serious question and in need of advice.

Do you think you have the power to help somone who wants to get out of the addiction but is to weak? Do you think you can inspire that person and make a difference? Have you been the addict yourself? If so, what is your story of the cure?

In my opinion I cannot change the fate of the addict, or any person for that fact except my own.
I would like to hear your opinon. If you think you can, or have in the past changed the fate of an addict, what did you do?
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Old Jul 18, 07
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yea, you hit them over the head with a bat or bar. After they get Knocked out then you can tie them up somewhere for a week or two until they get past withdrawls.
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Old Jul 18, 07
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I tried w/ 3 family members (addicted to crack) and even though they kept saying they want to be clean..they didn't actually.

It took hitting rock bottom and deciding that they TRULY wanted to change. 2.5 years sober and 4 months sober.

It's a long journey..but all you can do is never turn your back on them.
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Old Jul 18, 07
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I think its possible. It really depends on whether the person truely wants to change. I think if the person only wants to change mostly then it will not work. It needs to be 2ppl vs addiction, not 1.5 ppl vs addiction+.5person

if that makes sence.
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Old Jul 18, 07
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I tried w/ 3 family members (addicted to crack) and even though they kept saying they want to be clean..they didn't actually.
i've heard that before.
so the saying goes, talk is cheap. if they really want to change they'll seek out help and change themselves.
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Old Jul 18, 07
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I highly suggest to anyone (in general) who has not had any problems with long term serious addiction... that you think really hard about what you actually know about adiction, before you spit your hate speak about will power, and any addict not trying hard enough.

basically fuck you.
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Old Jul 18, 07
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you cant make someone quit they have to hit there bottom and want to. sorry its the reality. u can def give them ur two cents, express u care and ur concerned. but they will yo yo if u force someone to or they will just start to lie to you.

i have a few REALLY CLOSE friends addicted to it. all i can do is be supportive and hope they live thru it. trust me when i say i have tried my best to get them off it, but in the end u cant make someone stop something they dont want to stop. it takes them to hit rock bottom for them to want to.(unfortunatly usually losing everyone, everything for them to realize thats not how they like to live)

the more fortunate ones realize this b4 its too late.

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Old Jul 18, 07
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preaching to addicts pushes them away and can essentially cause them to cut ties with you. it hurts to watch it happen but just being there is often better help then trying to tell them what to do. (GET OFF THE DRUGS)
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I highly suggest to anyone (in general) who has not had any problems with long term serious addiction... that you think really hard about what you actually know about adiction, before you spit your hate speak about will power, and any addict not trying hard enough.

basically fuck you.

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if you want to help them, just make sure they know you are there for them if they need it. Other then that... *shrug*
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Old Jul 18, 07
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I'm finishing my University degree in September with my addictions certificate. This should be really interesting. I'll be working in Detox and Aboriginal centres in the Downtown East Side within a year. It's pretty heavy stuff, but honestly, I don't think anyone truly understands unless they've been there.
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Old Jul 18, 07
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can you cure a cocaine addict?
serious question and in need of advice.

Do you think you have the power to help somone who wants to get out of the addiction but is to weak? Do you think you can inspire that person and make a difference? Have you been the addict yourself? If so, what is your story of the cure?

In my opinion I cannot change the fate of the addict, or any person for that fact except my own.
I would like to hear your opinon. If you think you can, or have in the past changed the fate of an addict, what did you do?
No, YOU can't cure a cocaine addict - they have to want to cure themselves.
I had a pretty serious coke problem when I was 17/18 and I had an amazing family and supportive friends but I had to ultimately make the choice to stop.
The best thing you can do in a situation like that is express your concern and be a supportive individual; offer them resources and tell them that you're concerned and that you care.
It's amazing how many people fall out of your life in instances like that but it's always the ones that stuck around that you remember and are grateful for.
My closest friends told me that they didn't support my decisions but they never made me feel like I was worthless and having that sort of empathy and compassion is completely manditory. My parents took me for drug tests and went and sought out counsellors but for me quitting basically came down to making that choice.
At one point I realized I was failing a semester, I had lost my job, I was making my parents miserable and my friends were unhappy with me and I made a decision right there and then and quit cold turkey.

It's been about 3 years now since I've had a problem, I went to substance abuse counselling last winter just to deal with some of the demons I was still facing (I guess the aftermath) and I found it to be exceptionally helpful.

Be resourceful and good luck
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Old Jul 18, 07
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no.

you can't "help" people "fix" themselves, they can only help themselves.

the more you try to help someone or make them different than they currently are the more they will resist and pull away.
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Old Jul 18, 07
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no.

you can't "help" people "fix" themselves, they can only help themselves.

the more you try to help someone or make them different than they currently are the more they will resist and pull away.
thank you for repeating what everyone else already said. we get it now.
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wow... someone deleted their posts..


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Old Jul 18, 07
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Old Jul 19, 07
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Old Jul 19, 07
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Old Jul 19, 07
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I've got quite a few on there myself <3
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Old Jul 19, 07
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I highly suggest to anyone (in general) who has not had any problems with long term serious addiction... that you think really hard about what you actually know about adiction, before you spit your hate speak about will power, and any addict not trying hard enough.

basically fuck you.
I get what you're saying, but I think that people who have had to be in situations where they were living with/close with/a family member of an addict they have the right to speak from their own firsthand experience because they likely were JUST as affected. Addicts don't usually realize how much they are affecting the people closest with them and that they are likely experiencing a lot of the hell first hand too.

I think a lot of people preach about what people ought to do in ANY situation they have NOT experienced first hand themselves. I don't think that their true lack of experience prohibits them from having a strong opinion on things. Having that opinion is like saying anyone who has not been pregnant themselves doesn't have the right to subscribe to the pro life/pro choice opinion...
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Old Jul 19, 07
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I get what you're saying, but I think that people who have had to be in situations where they were living with/close with/a family member of an addict they have the right to speak from their own firsthand experience because they likely were JUST as affected. Addicts don't usually realize how much they are affecting the people closest with them and that they are likely experiencing a lot of the hell first hand too.

I think a lot of people preach about what people ought to do in ANY situation they have NOT experienced first hand themselves. I don't think that their true lack of experience prohibits them from having a strong opinion on things. Having that opinion is like saying anyone who has not been pregnant themselves doesn't have the right to subscribe to the pro life/pro choice opinion...

living with a junkie and being a junkie are two things.

sure, living with a junkie in your family/ who you care about is HARD, and I am not extracting from that. It can ruin lives, absolutely.

but actually BEING a junkie.. fuck off. I dont know you well enough to know your personal experience but I know what it's like to have your own choices, behaviour and addiction hurt people who care about you, see that happen, understand that your choices ARE affecting those around you.. and to utterly hate yourself for it at the same time. If it's not bad enough that you feel all that, you supress it by doing more drugs, and pushing those people away, trying not to hurt them so much.
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you can try to help but in the end the only person who can stop a drug addict is themselves...
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preaching to addicts pushes them away and can essentially cause them to cut ties with you. it hurts to watch it happen but just being there is often better help then trying to tell them what to do. (GET OFF THE DRUGS)
wtf kindof advice is that.......
I disagree
that's called enabling
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Old Jul 20, 07
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wtf kindof advice is that.......
I disagree
that's called enabling
have YOU ever been a junkie before?

edit - im not just talking having done drugs before, or being an every weekend rave-goer or even an alcoholic cause those things are NOT the same as being a junkie.
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what does that have to do with anything?
my family member was a crack addict and the only reason he stopped is because we didn't support him doing it.....you can't just let drug use fly or the person will never see the need to stop
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