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Old Feb 05, 08
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skiddies need to be PWN'd

i want to be the guy tracking down yahoochat bots to their oblivious "owners".

i can't begin to tell you the number of kids with scanners in my ip address range. out of about 100, 1-3 subscribers have a skiddie trolling for targets.

tho, they aren't dumb anymore. the last one i confronted in email had a mail server on so i manually emailed him, and he continued to play dumb until i lost contact with him.

a typical exchange would go:

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sageb1>>> can you stop scanning my ports?
skiddie>> what?
sageb1> please take me off your ip address range of scans!!!
what r u takling abot?
today, there are very few kids who put up a mail server without blackice, but i think they are smoking too much pot cos they are more paranoid now.

the last kid had an ftp server up, but blocked me. so i was left to using nmap to DoS his open ports until I got bored.

these r the kind of kids that tag along on raids by knock-knock home invaders and wind up bleeding from the gut when a home owner goes psychotic on them.

which is why they are portscanning. less violence!

anyway, it'd be neat to be an internet cop and get these bandwidth bandits off the net.

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I take back what I said in the other thread. I seriously believe that you are incapable to work based on mental capacity.

Congrats, you win. Enjoy welfare and all the basement suite/studio apartment that comes with it.
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so i was left to using nmap to DoS his open ports until I got bored.
WAIT, WHAT
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sorry, i can't help you. at least, not in this thread.

please email me if you want me to explain that to you.
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I take back what I said in the other thread. I seriously believe that you are incapable to work based on mental capacity.

Congrats, you win. Enjoy welfare and all the basement suite/studio apartment that comes with it.

FYI, port scanning is not a crime.

Sploiting is a different ball game. :p
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why do you care if someone is scanning your ports if they're blocked? turn off the software firewall and stop being so crazy and paranoid.
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^ so have you connected a windows 98 box with the complete norton AV and firewall to your cable modem recently? and then bam bam! 63 port probes in the first 2 minutes. 1057 in the first hour.
35,251 probes a day!!!

there are people out there whose boxes just collect the info on this and send it to {edited} the SAN website.{/edited}

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sorry, i can't help you. at least, not in this thread.

please email me if you want me to explain that to you.
NMAP THE PLANET
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FYI, port scanning is not a crime.

Sploiting is a different ball game. :p
It is if the intent is to DoS them.

Port Scanning isn't a crime insomuch as looking through people's windows and seeing them naked isn't a crime. But if you're intentionally going up trees with binoculars, don't expect the cops to be on your side.

You're a dumbass. Best way to beat script kiddies is to not let your computer be susceptible to their attacks. Once they start portscanning you, throw a rule into your firewall to drop all connections from that IP.

Also, the person that was port scanning you may very well have not been the person administrating the mailserver that you sent your message to. Very few people that go through portscanning people in their IP range looking for exploits will actually do it from their own IP address (if they're smart). They'll find a zombie box to do it from. So that may very well be why the person didn't know wtf you were talking about. Also, unsecured wireless networks are a pretty common thing (even more common: WEP encrypted networks that are brute-forced into). It's entirely possible that the admin's network was compromised and that you're sending condescending letters to someone whose only crime was not knowing how to set up WPA.
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^ so have you connected a windows 98 box with the complete norton AV and firewall to your cable modem recently? and then bam bam! 63 port probes in the first 2 minutes. 1057 in the first hour.
35,251 probes a day!!!

there are people out there whose boxes just collect the info on this and send it to a DNS watch website.
first of all, i'd never run windows 98 anymore. regardless, unless you want to be able to access the ports from the internet, they shouldn't be open. get a router with a hardware firewall.
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yes, my router does all that.

all i did was look at the dropped connection log once.

then i turned off that feature, cos of what i do when i see it.

i also looked at the SANs site and thought of all the email traffic that would be caused by letting my box email my log with the dropped connection option turned on to them.

mainly cos i never get feedback telling me that my help led to sysadmins verifying my log hits and shutting the AUS-violating hosts.

telus won't sell u a router; they sell you a firewall and AV suite.

you have that option with shaw. the newest modem is even a router and modem combo. ditto for some telus offerings.

but overall, i think the majority of boradband users do not have a router, and cannot justify the cost - at least, until the skiddie gets in and PWN's them.

then if they lost of a lot of documents, $50 for a router is worth it.

definitely, first time broadband customers need a short security tutorial.

at least until IPv6 is de facto standard and Ipv4 is defunct.
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Just because there's a new standard doesn't mean people get to ignore computer security. The only reason there aren't as many exploits of ipv6 is because there's no point - nobody's really using it.

Why you chose to expose yourself to attacks is beyond me. Sounds like you're being an entrapping douche.
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but overall, i think the majority of boradband users do not have a router, and cannot justify the cost - at least, until the skiddie gets in and PWN's them.
i wasn't talking to the majority of broadband users, i was talking to you. if you have a hardware firewall why don't you just leave it on and stop the port scans from reaching your computer altogether. you must have a boring life if you're watching and replying to random port scans. i think you'd miss them if they stopped, haha.
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i wasn't talking to the majority of broadband users, i was talking to you. if you have a hardware firewall why don't you just leave it on and stop the port scans from reaching your computer altogether. you must have a boring life if you're watching and replying to random port scans. i think you'd miss them if they stopped, haha.
oh i did Ã*thatÃ* once.
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OT but i can't believe it when I say something that people assume that I do it all the time.

I don't have the stamina for that anymöre.
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No, it's not the idea that you do it all the time that bugs us, it's the fact that you're doing it at all.
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lol @ everyone that spent more than 5 seconds replying to this thread
sorry for the bad karma, it was a mistake

p.s what the fuck are you nerds talking about? and how do i make my piece of shit computer less of a unstable piece of shit?

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p.s what the fuck are you nerds talking about? and how do i make my piece of shit computer less of a unstable piece of shit?
GET A BETTER USER.
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Which one would sage be?

I'd suggest Razer or Blade
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Evened that out for ya
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I havent nmap'd for a long time..

it's good to see a better interface on mac.

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