suicide

[brokencrayon]

so last night my best girl friend attempted to kill herself by swallowing a huge handful of tylenol 3's. luckily I got her "goodbye" email just a bit after she musta taken them and ran my ass to her house which is pretty dam far to find her on her bed shaking with ice cold hands and i just didnt know wat to do she was begging me not to call her parents but i had to do it. i called her dad and we rushed her to emergency. they pumped her stomache so shes ok but shes still not ok becuz she is obviously in a state where she wants to die. she made that perfectly clear when she also begged me to leave her the way she was. shes always been the strong one and when it comes to suicide i dont know how to deal with it. i lost my dad to suicide and i dont want to lose her too shes like a sister to me. i need to help her but i dont know how i dont even know why she wants to die. she wont tell me or anyone. her parents and i are so confused. with my dad he had an illness and so he was depressed. i knew why he was depressed and i still couldnt save him so im even more lost with her becuz i dont have any idea why shes like this and i feel like a terrible friend for not knowing. i need to find a way to help her. she wont talk to a psychiatrist and i understand cuz i hate them too but she really needs some help. i cant let suicide take another person i love. :soak:

[bren]

all you can do is be there for her. make her feel like she is important. make sure her parents know about how bad it is - because they can help too.

talking to anyone helps. it doesnt have to be a psychiatrist. it could be you. it could be an old teacher. for people that are feeling the way she is - lots of times it is just everything bottled up inside and there seems like no way out. she needs to vent. she needs to release. she needs to cry and talk.

a lot of times another persons input on the situation, or mutual sharing of their own personal experiences can make the sufferer's current situation seem less scary and empty than it really is.

good luck. i hope everything works out in the best for everyone that would be affected.

bren

[mugsy]

my brothers ex did the same thing, only she downed all her anti depressents and some t-3's, then called him. i had to try and keep her talking on the phone while he busted over there and took her to the emergency. she got violent and had to be tied down and he saw it all, when he came home he woke me up and i had never seen my brother like that ever.
suicide is hard to comprehend, hard to understand, as well is life.your friend is so lucky to have you, and im sure she knows this and appreciates you, do not feel sad for her. maybe surround her with happiness instead. there are many things we dont tell our best friends\closest of people many secrets we keep.
i dont have any advice truely, i dont understand suicide either. i lost a friend two years ago to it, and he showed no signs. i didnt see him sad or sick, he just left us.
i think you are very strong, and you must be extremely caring. i envy you for your ability to handle the situation in which you were envolved.

[vangroover]

sorry to hear that , i really hope she can work through that.

[party_babe]

I had a friend that used to tell me about how she wanted to kill herself and how she had tried to and all that. I think you made a really good choice to tell her parents. Its so hard to think of what you can do and what there is to do but i think all you should do at this point is be there for her in anyway she needs. Talk to her let her vent out everything that needs to be vented. What i would do is just try to be a really positive influence on her hmm thats all i can think of good luck sweetie

[brokencrayon]

thanks for the kind words guys. im trying to be strong. its really hard. i jut want to break down but i know i cant cuz she needs ppl around her that are stable in order to get herself stable.

[wigglesworth]

My buddy from soccer for 9 years threw himself off a bridge two saturdays ago.
its so fucking sad....
im glad you saved your friend.

[stringbeans]

you did the right thing..

life's way too precious to just throw it away

[mugsy]

Originally posted by brokencrayon
thanks for the kind words guys. im trying to be strong. its really hard. i jut want to break down but i know i cant cuz she needs ppl around her that are stable in order to get herself stable.

its ok to be sad and break down about this, just dont truely do it around her, but i would make sure to express how sad it makes you and how much of a loss she would be to you.

[mojo]

when i read things like this it makes me so gratefull not to have to deal with things such as this.it appears your a very strong person, i wish you the best.

[brokencrayon]

thanks.. i dont feel so strong. i feel like i've failed her as a best friend, i should have noticed she wasnt well. i just hope she can get through this without taking the "easy way out". im really scared. i think its because i have experienced a loss like this already with my dad. the guilt is already there. and now its back but now its double guilt- guilt from my dads suicide and new guilt from her attempt. i dont have it in me to lose another loved one this way, or in any way. and i bet none of this makes sense. i cant make sense of any of this right now. i hope i can pull myself together by tomrrow when i go to see her.

[mugsy]

hun, dont fel guilt its not your fault. i dont think you did anything to make her feel this way, its something inside her. like i said before dont feel sorry for her, ratehr help her, appreciate her.
an once aagin you are very strong, dont let guilt seep into it. its in no way, shape or form your fault.

[c.tard]

Originally posted by brokencrayon
thanks.. i dont feel so strong. i feel like i've failed her as a best friend, i should have noticed she wasnt well. i just hope she can get through this without taking the "easy way out". im really scared. i think its because i have experienced a loss like this already with my dad. the guilt is already there. and now its back but now its double guilt- guilt from my dads suicide and new guilt from her attempt. i dont have it in me to lose another loved one this way, or in any way. and i bet none of this makes sense. i cant make sense of any of this right now. i hope i can pull myself together by tomrrow when i go to see her.

some people are just amazing at hiding things. don't blame yourself for not picking up on it, there truly might've been nothing to pick up on.

use your experience to try and help her. i know for me, with problems, i would rather talk to someone i trust.. and who i know would understand. you've dealt with suicide with your father, it's not a new thing to you. let her know you care, let her know you're there.. but you can't force her to talk. she won't talk unless she's ready. maybe try and find someone else who has been suicidal that she can talk to? someone she trust.. she might open up more to someone who's been in that situation..

either way g'luck and stay strong. it's not an easy thing to deal with..

[brokencrayon]

thanks. i talked to my friend today, shes still a bit mad at me. she has agreed to see a counsellor tho. its the only way they will let her out of the hospital right now. i hope she sticks to it. im gonna try to help her get happy. thanks for the advice and kind words.

[crackle]

man oh man... reading something like this makes me think back to when i wanted to die.. i've tried to kill myself many many times, and now that i think about it, i'm soo glad that i changed and got help...but some things are still hard for me to go through.. seeing how i live down here in surrey and many of my close friends that i grew up with are back in my home town [100 mile house] there are many suicides going on up there.. just last month my brothers closest friend was soo drunk and fried he shot himself in the head, when my brother told me that i cried for soo long, cuz he was like a brother to me. i really hope that ur friend will crack her shell and talk to even you about it, i know it's a really scary thing to have to live with, but just member everyone is here to help u if u need it:D *huggz*

[Goat]

just for the record, it takes an EXTREMELY large, and i repeat, an EXTREMELY large amount of t3/tylenol/ib profein etc to over-dose and die.

read somewhere - "keep suicide a question, not an answer "

dealing with uber depressed/suicidal people, i've found best results with an open ear, show you care - if you think they're gonna do the deed, you be there to stop 'em or call a crisis line.
question "why"
don't accept " I can't " - it's because they "won't" - question as well.
hugs, these are important as well.

strength to you and your friend

[cinist]

if someone wants to kill themselves they will, if they dont then they wont

some people enjoy attention

if you are actually going to kill yourself it will come as sumwhat of a suprise, if u really want to do it then ur not gona be making it part of everyday conversation unless u want some saying " ohhh poor you, dont do it!"

if u want to die u can, dont tell anyone things hurt deeply and slit yo ###### wrists

if ur friend does this , it aint yo fualt, they feel like crap and they are taking care of that feeling, be proud of them for stopping the bulllshit for themselves aND be sad for what they could have had

[stephen_c]

professional diagnosis is the first step towards helping her.

a family member of mine tried to commit suicide once due to acute depression. there's no cure 4 it. the only way to manage it is through medication.

[Goat]

Originally posted by cinist
if someone wants to kill themselves they will, if they dont then they wont

some people enjoy attention

if you are actually going to kill yourself it will come as sumwhat of a suprise, if u really want to do it then ur not gona be making it part of everyday conversation unless u want some saying " ohhh poor you, dont do it!"

if u want to die u can, dont tell anyone things hurt deeply and slit yo ###### wrists

if ur friend does this , it aint yo fualt, they feel like crap and they are taking care of that feeling, be proud of them for stopping the bulllshit for themselves aND be sad for what they could have had

^ your somewhat right. people who try to kill themselves don't declare it to the world.
saying 'im going to kill myself' is a cry for help.

A friend is someone who'll listen and show concern, and if nothing else, contact someone who is trained to deal with the situation.
shannons right, it's not your fault if they follow through, as hard as that may seem sometimes.

shannon - "taking care of that feeling" - that's a bullshit remark and you know it.

professional diagnosis is the first step towards helping her.

^i disagree. as with numerous issues, accepting/admitting you have a problem is the first step - identifying the second etc

a family member of mine tried to commit suicide once due to acute depression. there's no cure 4 it. the only way to manage it is through medication.

^you're extremely naive and stupid.
nothing can be 'cured' with medication.
anti depressants are to help the physical side of things, problems just don't disapear. The second half of treatment is following up with 1)emotional councelling and 2) behaviour modification - aka - the mental half of things.

please don't go around saying there's no cure for it if you havn't found one. think before you speak.

[brokencrayon]

QUOTE]Originally posted by Goat

^i disagree. as with numerous issues, accepting/admitting you have a problem is the first step - identifying the second etc


^you're extremely naive and stupid.
nothing can be 'cured' with medication.
anti depressants are to help the physical side of things, problems just don't disapear. The second half of treatment is following up with 1)emotional councelling and 2) behaviour modification - aka - the mental half of things.

please don't go around saying there's no cure for it if you havn't found one. think before you speak. [/quote]

she isnt naive and stupid she just maybe has a different opinion on things i guess, however, for this part i totallly agree with goat because my dad killed himself almost 3 years ago and it took 3 attempts before he actually succeeded - while he was on a few different types of medication for his depression but they obviously didnt work because the doctors just expected that if the meds didnt work nothing would .after he died the doctors told us that once someone tries and once they admit they really want to die that there is no stopping them and that they eventually would succeed. . that was in my head when my friend made her attempt and thats wat freaked the hell out of me. but now i know the doctor saying that couldnt be more wrong. that is the first step of recovery and they neglected to give him proper help :soak: :finger: ...... anyways... my friend has admitted she needs help and is on the road to recovery with support from the right doctor, her family and i- no medication what so ever and she is doing quite well so far.



ps- thanks for the support and kind words from everyone. it was very helpful.

[M!SKA]

I'm glad you're feeling a little bit better about things.

I went through the same thing with a friend when I was in grade 12. She swallowed the contents of a costco-sized bottle of extra-strength tylenol. I talked her into puking it up, which wasn't hard because clearly she didn't actually want to die, she just wanted people to notice that she wasn't well.
Another friend and I talked to her mom and told her what was going on.. her parents were totally oblivious to the fact that their only daughter was suffering from depression (either that or they were in denial about it).
It was a little shaky for a while.. she hated me for telling her mom, but she's better now that its all out in the open.

You did the right thing by calling her dad and getting help. And your friend has agreed to talk to someone. Things will get better :)

[Goat]

sorry if that wasn't' all that clear, i wasn't calling her naive and stupid, it was this moronic post ---->

a family member of mine tried to commit suicide once due to acute depression. there's no cure 4 it. the only way to manage it is through medication.

check your PM.

[brokencrayon]

Originally posted by Goat
sorry if that wasn't' all that clear, i wasn't calling her naive and stupid, it was this moronic post ---->

oh, oopsies