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Old Apr 07, 04
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Apologizing

Would you apologize for something you truly feel you are right and in your heart after deep analysis, have no reason to apologize... yet for the sake of saving the relationship with that other person you apologize anyways? Is it necessary to humble yourself to another person for an issue they deserve not to be humbled to? Even if its your older sibling or even your parents?

Does it actually make you a bigger person? I guess it does in a way.

But sometimes for certain issues, its so hard to say you're sorry when the other person just does not deserve to be apologized to.... when it should really be the other way around.
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Old Apr 07, 04
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I appologize for everything, because it makes me feel better, not because I have to. So if it feels good do it, you wont go to hell for appologizing for somethign you dont need to appologize for. And even if the person doesnt deserve the appology and totaly takes offense to it because they accuse you of not being sincere or whatever obviously they are just bitter because now you feel better and they dont.
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If the person doesn't deserve it... Let them know and fast! Tell them exactly how you feel and that you deserve the apology and not the other way around. If they can't deal with this, then they aren't worth your time or emotions.
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Old Apr 07, 04
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Why apologize for being right?
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Exactly!
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Old Apr 07, 04
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Some people just have too much pride

Like myself. I'm really questioning.... am i right for not humbling myself and figuring i'll lose face for saying that i'm the one whos wrong?

I feel that i should agree with exotica.. maybe i will feel better if i do apologize and the other person might feel bad because i was the bigger person in the situation.
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^ I tell ya, holding grudges only makes you a grumpy old person, even if you forget about it in the back of the mind you will always remember the time you had an unresolved issue. If it goes on long enough eventually you forget who was wrong and who was right and you will only think it was you who was right. If you appologize then the other person might feel good because they are right, nad you will feel good because they arent pissed off anymore, but inside you know you were right, and that's all that matters
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Old Apr 07, 04
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i guess you're right.

these grudges i got right now aint takin me far at all
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Old Apr 07, 04
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well if u know they are wrong, then i would say sorry if it was an important girl to me, but only if it was something trivial, if it was HUUUGE, like them cheating on me and trying to make it my fault.. or something that would seriously make me look bad in the eyes of my friends and family, then no i wouldn't say sorry, but try and come to an agreement on it at least
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^ ya dude if the bitch cheated on you DO NOT APPOLOGIZE! thats just too far
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Old Apr 07, 04
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Some people just have too much pride
This is so true a lot of us have too much of it and cannot drop the whole i have pride issue.
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Old Apr 07, 04
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I think it does, something about swollowing your pride.
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Old Apr 07, 04
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Originally Posted by k-pryde
Some people just have too much pride

Like myself. I'm really questioning.... am i right for not humbling myself and figuring i'll lose face for saying that i'm the one whos wrong?

You've got pride, but you also know yourself.

If you truly feel you are wrong, you would have no trouble apologizing.
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Old Apr 07, 04
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I have way too much pride. I hate apologizing when it's in the middle of a fight, I'm too upset and angry to just let it go and at that moment I don't think I'm wrong - after I've thought about things for a while I feel horrible and realize I've done some things that I should apologize for. But still it's hard for me to do it for some reason.

I think some times it's good to swollow the pride and apologize - maybe I wasn't wrong, but if my actions/words made someone else feel bad or I hurt someone I care about, that should be enough for me to apologize.

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Old Apr 08, 04
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I apoligize when I'm wrong or when I feel that I'm wrong. I don't believe in apoligizing if you know you're right and you can back yourself up with more then a "just cuz" answer. If you're just being a stubborn bastard and you don't want to admit you're wrong I think that's silly but somehow I don't think you are. If it really means that much to you write down why you think you're right and where you see the other person isn't and civilly discuss the matter. There's no need for raised voices or swearing or arguements just sit down like adults and talk it out. Communication is the key! Maybe the other person just doesn't see your point and this would help clarify it.
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I apologize when I'm wrong.

If I haven't apologized, then you're wrong. End of fuckin story.
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Old Apr 08, 04
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someone gave me good karma for this post but didnt leave their name
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Old Apr 08, 04
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i dont apologize ever. but thats me and i'm perfect.

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i say dont apologize martin. if you have to think about whether you should or not..then u probably shouldn't.
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Old Apr 08, 04
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choice of words and tone of speech largely contribute to the direction of an argument. In disagreement I think that it's important to try to keep calm and avoid offensive speech.. it can lead to a level of disagreement where even agreeing to disagree becomes impossible

I don't see why you should compromise what you believe in for the sake of avoiding conflict, but I think that you have the choice of how far you want to take the argument... Regardless of potential evidence that may counter their beliefs, some people are stubborn and unwilling to hear any other perspective other than their own. Some disputes just aren't worth the time or effort.
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Old Apr 08, 04
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just swallow it and apologize... guys aren't allowed to be right in relationships...
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Old Apr 09, 04
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Definately not. In the long run you're not helping the situation, and the same problem will arise from time to time. So if you don't resolve the problem/situation with an honest opinion, then when.

But also, you can agree to disagree and leave it at that. Get over it. Move on.

Humbling is good for the spirit though, and it has it's time and place.
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Old Apr 09, 04
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If it is a case of you know you are right but they won't shut up until you apologize I say just do it. I know I have apologized when I have been right MANY times just to stop the argueing because the point just wasn't that important to me.But if it is a really big deal to you and you truely feel that they don't deserve it then stick to your morals.
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Old Apr 09, 04
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If I've had a bad argument with someone, but still feel that I was right, I'll apologize to them for letting things get out of hand and/or for making them feel bad (but not specifically for my own position)

Usually people are just happy to get an apology, and you dont have to admit you're wrong. Water under the bridge.
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Old Apr 09, 04
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If I've had a bad argument with someone, but still feel that I was right, I'll apologize to them for letting things get out of hand and/or for making them feel bad (but not specifically for my own position)

Usually people are just happy to get an apology, and you dont have to admit you're wrong. Water under the bridge.
thats a good way to look at it as well. i dig that one for sure
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