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^ she is not my friend, she is my little cousin, she is family, blood! like a little sister to me... I have grown up watching out for her and now that she lives a bit farther away it is a lot harder to do so. I feel somewhat guilty. the guy is 17 .. so its a pretty big difference.. and he goes to her school. she is grade 8 he is grade 12, and apparently we are finding out now that this isn't the first time he has been accused of something like this, it has happened 2 other times. the hopsital will be able to tell us more after her rape kit test results. They think she may have been drugged by the guy. She is also finding out through all of this that her "best friend" isn't the best friend she thought she was. she laughed at the whole thing and did nothing to help her. (she was there the whole time) ughhh fuck I am sooo upset.

I would suggest attending said school with guys and bats..
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my heart goes out to her.get her to talk to a therapist asap,rape ruins a girl completely if it isnt dealt with right away.

make sure she writes a victims impact statement.

shame that the mother fucker who did it wasnt 18,cuz then that way if he was hed be fucked for life. With juvenile charges they are laid to rest after youre an adult and can not be brought back up.

stupid canadian judicial system :|
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A name would be good at the very least you get enough people who know and maybe remember this piece of shit could be shamed for life.. Really my heart goes out to you. If some motherfucker pulled that shit on my sister I would most likley be in custody right now..
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Wow... That is a horrible thing for a person and family to go thru together. I wish you all the best. Sounds like you/your fam are doing all the right things, and you'll just hafta hope and pray that this fucker gets what he deserves. Do be sure and get her some help like Kraig said. A friend of mine went thru something like this in gr.8 or 9... Its really not so nice, but really should be formally dealt with. :( Stories like this make me wanna scream/cry/throw fists/throw up. Yeah, in about that order.

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Wow... That is a horrible thing for a person and family to go thru together. I wish you all the best. Sounds like you/your fam are doing all the right things, and you'll just hafta hope and pray that this fucker gets what he deserves. Do be sure and get her some help like Kraig said. A friend of mine went thru something like this in gr.8 or 9... Its really not so nice, but really should be formally dealt with. :( Stories like this make me wanna scream/cry/throw fists/throw up. Yeah, in about that order.

Good luck!
yeah when I first found out I did all of those said things in pretty much the same order. I still feel sick to my stomache, still haven't really eaten and I doubt I will sleep. I am worried sick about her and I can't stop thinking about what happened to her and I know that if I am feeling this shitty she must be feeling a great deal worse. I will be going out there to spend the weekend with her Saturday morning and pampering her, and when she is ready to leave the house and if she wants to I am eventually going to take her for a day at the spa, just us girls... I think she would like that when she is ready to get out and about again.
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^ Best cousin ever.
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my heart goes out to her.get her to talk to a therapist asap,rape ruins a girl completely if it isnt dealt with right away.

make sure she writes a victims impact statement.

shame that the mother fucker who did it wasnt 18,cuz then that way if he was hed be fucked for life. With juvenile charges they are laid to rest after youre an adult and can not be brought back up.

stupid canadian judicial system :|
well regardless of that she is under 14 so she is under the legal consentual age for sex anyways. even if she had consented it would still have been considered statutory rape, but she DID NOT consent so it's worse. He is more than 2 years older than her so that also warrents what he did as molestation from what I have been told by a trustworthy source, and I am hoping because that would mean more trouble for this asshole. We are hoping that if he has turned 18 by the time trial comes around, they will just try him as an adult because he fucking well deserves it. If he thinks he has the right to steal a little 13 year old girl's virginity when she is pleading for him not to then he has another thing coming. I want to see his life ruined because he pretty much messed up hers. She was already dealing with way too much at her age and now she had to go through this. Man I have to stop thinking about it, it is just breaking my heart but I can't stop... I am so disgusted with this fucking bastard and so upset for my poor little cousin. *sighz*
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^yes i know all that,however...they probabally WILL NOT try him as an adult just because the offence took place when he was still a JUVENILE.

The rape sentances in Canada are slaps on the wrists,take it from someone who was given the shaft by the canadian judicial system when the asshole who raped me was given 6 fucking months house arrest...AND THAT WAS AN ADULT CHARGE TOO.

I hate to be a killjoy or sound unempathetic...but thats the reality of things in this wonderful country we call our home.

Maybe changes have been made in regards to rape charges and what not in 7 yrs,i dont know,im just speaking from my experience...and from other girls experiences.

I know of other girls who were viciously raped,and thier attacker was let off.

THANX CANADA!

anyways good luck,and make sure your cousin talks to a professional about what happened...WHEN SHES READY TO.
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It would actually be better to carve 'pedophile' in him. Rapists typically don't get looked down upon in prison the way pedophiles do. Alot of people in prison ARE rapists and the like but even other inmates hate pedophiles. This way he'll be someone's bitch for sure. Just pray he DOES get tried as an adult and that he does do hard time for something this low and heinous. Hope those other prior victims come forward, if not for themselves, then at least so that he doesn't do this to someone else. Stuff like this just makes me hate humanity. What kind of upbringing makes people think it is okay to drug and rape someone?!?

someone's bitch??... think again.. the guards actually tell the inmates a pedophile is coming in.. and most of the times the inmates murder the pedophile's..

like for example..
this lady i work with.. her cousin is in jail because he is a strangeler(sp?).. and a pedophile was his cellmate.. and during lights out, he strangeled the guy to death.. and he didn't get charged for it..
they don't care too much about pedophile's.. they're at the bottom of the food chain in jail.
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^yes i know all that,however...they probabally WILL NOT try him as an adult just because the offence took place when he was still a JUVENILE.

The rape sentances in Canada are slaps on the wrists,take it from someone who was given the shaft by the canadian judicial system when the asshole who raped me was given 6 fucking months house arrest...AND THAT WAS AN ADULT CHARGE TOO.

I hate to be a killjoy or sound unempathetic...but thats the reality of things in this wonderful country we call our home.

Maybe changes have been made in regards to rape charges and what not in 7 yrs,i dont know,im just speaking from my experience...and from other girls experiences.

I know of other girls who were viciously raped,and thier attacker was let off.

THANX CANADA!

anyways good luck,and make sure your cousin talks to a professional about what happened...WHEN SHES READY TO.
thanks for the information. That is so lame, especially since he has been said to have done this a couple times before and that is just what we know of. Who knows how many other girls were assaulted by this jerkoff and were too scared/ashamed to come forward. I really wish they will try him as an adult because he deserves atleast some jail time for this. If it doesn't work out I will probably lose all faith in the Canadian Judicial system too.... and that guy better run and hide.
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Reading stuff like this make me feel physically ill.

I was raped when I was 17. I didn't say anything to anyone at the time. I wish I had, because a couple of years after it happened, I heard that I wasn't the only one he did it to.

I'm SO PROUD of you and her family for backing her up 110%, and most of all I'm proud of HER for being brave enough to take this path. I hope for her sake that the other 2 girls are as brave as she is, because if nothing else, they may be able to find solidarity and peace-of-mind with each other.

My heart and my thoughts go out to your family.
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thanks for the information. That is so lame, especially since he has been said to have done this a couple times before and that is just what we know of. Who knows how many other girls were assaulted by this jerkoff and were too scared/ashamed to come forward. I really wish they will try him as an adult because he deserves atleast some jail time for this. If it doesn't work out I will probably lose all faith in the Canadian Judicial system too.... and that guy better run and hide.
Its almost better if you deal with it directly as opposed to pressing charges,because if you press charges your cousin will NEVER get the justice that she deserves.

Its a God damned shame and makes me so fucking sad and angry to see your cousin in this position,and to see that our fucking judicial system will pretty much overlook and undermind this type of situation time and time again.
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Its almost better if you deal with it directly as opposed to pressing charges,because if you press charges your cousin will NEVER get the justice that she deserves.

Its a God damned shame and makes me so fucking sad and angry to see your cousin in this position,and to see that our fucking judicial system will pretty much overlook and undermind this type of situation time and time again.
yeah :( makes me even more upset and enraged and SICK... by not giving them harsh punishments that they deserve they are practically condoning it because these guys will know they can get off with a slap on the wrist. I guess it is time for me to start thinking of alternative punishments.
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my mom's a paralegal so i know a bit about how lame the justice system can be.

do you have any brothers, uncles, or males in the family that can act on your behalf?

something similar to this happened in Penticton a few years ago and the perp literally got his arm broken by who i presume to be the girl's brother. he was a pretty mild mannered guy and he just turned vigilante. the rapist was totally shamed and he never went to the police and no one would help with the investigation even though they all knew who beat the shit out of him.

at the time the girl tried to stop anyone from doing anything violent, but later on she said she was grateful all the same. not trying to give you any ideas here, because really retaliation like that doesn't usually bode well. i dunno, just my two cents.

in any case, you gotta do something before you lose your nerve.
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I dont know if you should do anything too extreme, especialy in regards to assaulting him ..

Too many bad things can happen, what if you kill or severely injure him ? now I know a lot of you would think this would be a good thing, but lets say you get charged and end up in jail over this or worse?

Then your own life is pretty much over also...

I'd let the courts handle this first, and hopefully justice will be served ...then after that if you are still not satisfied with the outcome, you can try taking matters into your own hands if thats what you really want.

In the meantime if your feeling revengeful..

you could maybe get his picture, full name and maybe home address. Then make flyers with the words "Child Rapist" on it and just go post them up everywhere, or mass forward them via e-mail.

That will leave a lot more then some bruises ever will.
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you could maybe get his picture, full name and maybe home address. Then make flyers with the words "Child Rapist" on it and just go post them up everywhere, or mass forward them via e-mail.

That will leave a lot more then some bruises ever will.
Unfortunately, slander/libel sentences tend to be heavier than those for rape. =/
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whatever happened to mob justice =/
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Unfortunately, slander/libel sentences tend to be heavier than those for rape. =/

Yeah, but it would be a lot easier to get away with slandering him, then going and phsyicaly beating him to death or something of that sort.

If you did it right they coudnt prove exactly who was responsible for it.

But anyways, this was just a random thought, not actualy saying for anyone to go out and do this =)

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^ another good idea I shall take note of. But first I will wait and see what the police are going to do with this chump. It is just really hard to stand by and watch nothing get done about this while my little cousin suffers and who knows how many other girls are/have because of him .. or how many girls will if he isn't punished properly. =\
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Punishment for rapests is far too light. especialy here in Canada. i sure as hell hope they try him as an adult, with prior offences. but even so, its not enough. hes shown that he will do it again. Stop him now before someone else goes through this!!! sometimes i want to support mob justice. shes just a kid. this makes me sick as well.

does anyone know of any organizations or anything working to increase punishments for rapests? i want to know if there is anything i can do.
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sorry, too appinionated for this crowd? well you have to fight for something, or you will never make any changes for the better in this world. ill keep my veiws to where they are not feared. but if you know someone close to you that has had to live with this then you would be more accspeting of my abrasiveness.
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Lop Off His Cock

-It's more permenent that a criminal record
-It will shame him, daily
-He'll never do it again

He obviously can't use it properly so take it away. If somebody can't drive, you'd take their lisence away. Same rule applies here.

If he changes and is deemed worthy to rejoin society he'll still be able to be a contributing member. He just won't HAVE a contributing member.
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high school girls are weird, i remember something similar happened in grade 8 to one of my friends, it was our friends brother that did it and most of the girls in our crowd at the time found it funny and gave her a 'way to go' for losing her virginity.

i almost am glad i don't want kids, highschool is a scary place these days.
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^ agreed! but I still want kids =\

anyway.. test results came back yesterday so they found his stuff in her, proving there was intercourse, and they were able to prove from abrasions(sp?...I believe that's what my aunt called it) that it was unconsentual sex. so basically they were able to prove that he raped her. so hopefully this means he will get a harsh punishment. I can't wait to hear that he has been re-arrested. They are still waiting for the results from her urine sample to know if he drugged her or not, but we are already convinced that she was... and I am pretty sure he drugged her with that GHB crap. I also am hoping at least one of the other 2 girls who he did this to will come forward as this will help the case.
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