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Old Jun 24, 05
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Feminist rant that talks about porn that I agree with

concerning the 18 U.S.C 2257 regulation

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I am not totally either for or against this measure, but merely starting a serious discussion which I hope will be free from people suffering from withdrawal from their prone addictions and instead focus on serious discussion centered around the reasons for enacting these legislative measures and the possible affects that the legislation will have on society.

I will kick off the discussion with my best observations of the problems which lead up to bills such as this one and with the possible affects which the bill could engender.

To begin with, the pornography industry is full of abuse and rife with corruption. Those persons involved in the industry are not, as a whole, morally upstanding and considerate persons. Their allegiances are almost universally hedonistic and their interests lie within their own personal monetary gains. This situation typically leads too the majority of the powerful producers of pornography to be involved in organized crime which is often involved in the slave trade.

Far from being eliminated in modern culture, slavery is very much alive and quite profitable. The vast majority of female slaves experience sexual abuse, and a considerate number of male slaves, especially those which are still considered children or boys, experience sexual abuse. Of that portion of slaves which are forced into prostitution by their masters most are also forced to engage in pornography.

The process of forcing slaves into prostitution and pornography has become an advanced brainwashing practice and is extremely effectual. The process of abduction, abuse, inculcation and eventual incumbency is well established among those dealing in human slavery. A child is either abducted or sold into slavery by their parents. Once abducted, the child or young adult is subjected to a long system of forced labor and often forced sexual acts. The sexual acts are often demeaning and humiliating creating a sense of self-loathing which is encouraged by other incumbent slaves. Quite often, staged "friends" are used to encourage the child or young adult to confide their desires of escape, freedom, or knowledge that the entire situation is illegal. Sometimes they are even allowed to "escape" and to reach a perceived level of freedom with a staged person of power or law enforcement which then returns them to the abusive situation and they are severely punished imbuing the slave with a deeply rooted sense of helplessness and mistrust of government authorities. Once this process has been carried through to it's completion the subject slave is totally within the control of their masters and very very seldom needs any supervision whatever as they are totally convinced of a lack of self-worth, a complete inability to escape bondage, a total resignation to their fate and even quite often a certain level of confused belief that they enjoy their life.

Most persons involved in sexual slavery would choose to return to slavery if freed merely because they are incapable of understanding freedom and must live in perpetual fear and uncertainty while free of being severely punished or killed if discovered by their masters.

It's a horrible system which carries a massive degree of profitability.


In addition to the abuses perpetrated by sexual slavery in the pornography industry the industry itself usually caters to abusive and controlling sexual activity ensuring that they perpetrate a certain amount of the philosophy of addiction onto the subject populace. The oft-repeated "money shot" is demeaning in every sense of the word. The sex perpetrated in most pornography is brutal, abusive and filled with "dirty talk" which is demeaning and shows a certain level of control by the "dominant" male over the female.

Many people claim that the industry is catering to the desires of the populace but this simply isn't true. Nine out of ten youths first exposed to "hard core" pornography are disgusted and repulsed by nature of the acts performed. They are drawn more towards "soft porn" such as that found in Playboy, Penthouse or other less graphic and abusive sexual situations. Most people redly accept that pornography is presented in graduating degrees to persons starting with softer sexual situations and then progressing gradually to graphic and abusive sex.

The end result is an industry with is rife with corruption, addictive in nature, promotes residential abuse and sexual discrimination and is generally not something that the government has any interest in promoting. The only reason it is even permitted by government is that a large portion of the baser segment of the populace is addicted to or tolerant of graphic pornography. The industry is so lucrative that pornographers are able to buy massive amounts of lobbying power to expand their interests.

I am personally a strong believer in the freedoms of the individual, but I also am a republican (in the political sense not the party sense) and I believe that the majority of the population can be blind to deeper political machinations and abuses of industry on the populace so that there must be a balance between the powers of the democratic system and the greater good of the people as understood by learned and respected legislators.

The simple truth is that NOBODY addicted to hard core pornography is going to be sympathetic to any legislation which produces a limitation in the availability of that pornography. Very few of those persons with an interest in pornography are going to give a "rat's ass" about abuse in the industry, they just want their porn. Most are completely blind to the nature of their addiction and ignorant of it's affects on their psychology. Nearly all question the validity and truth of reports and studies which point out abuses in the pornography industry merely because it lies against their own interests and not because those reports are invalid.

Thus, in conclusion, I think that this legislation lies in the best interests of both the government and the populace of the United States and it's only adverse affects are going to be a limitation of the spread of that pornography which is profiting from human slavery and the addictions of the populace.



Cliffs: banning porn might not be such a bad thing. Although the same night OT did that there were about 30 threads complaining about black people

It seems we're only 3 meals, or a porn fix away from anarchy
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Hahahahahah. Okay. Because prohibition worked so well with alcohol.
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it's the thought that counts
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I don't think forcing the industry underground is really going to help anyone.
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The thought is a stupid one.

Prohibition solves nothing. Porn shouldn't be made illegal. Sex is the most base of human instincts. The sex industry shouldn't be made illegal for any reason. All you succeed by doing that is ignore primal urges and force people to resort to at best illegal and at worst harmful methods to get their jizz on.

Maybe they should look more to how they can work with the porn industry to make it better?

You know, like they have since the 70s when this issue first came up?

The modern porn industry is very different than it used to be.
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over exposure and acculturation to porn can be a bad thing too
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over exposure and acculturation to porn can be a bad thing too
Yes, but so can overexposure and acculturation to shopping.

You need to watch less Dr. Phil.
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Yes, but so can overexposure and acculturation to shopping.

You need to watch less Dr. Phil.
you don't think an addiction to hardcore pornography is a tad bit different from a compulsion to shop?
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i always feel the need to shop for porn.

i'm addicted to both :(
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you don't think an addiction to hardcore pornography is a tad bit different from a compulsion to shop?
Depends.

Addiction to hardcore pornography gets you off.

Addiction to shopping uses up your money, putting you in debt, having collection agencies on your ass, and has a real chance of screwing up your life.

Addiction to pornography gets a bunch of moralists uppity.

Sorry, which one was more detrimental?
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