Darren Tate @ Atlantis

SquiLa · #1 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

Darren Tate was absolutely brilliant!

But the turn out was attrocious. I know it was a Wednesday and it was trance. Oh and apparently trance just isn't "what it used to be" in Vancouver. But when an international DJ comes to town you'd think there'd be a little more support!!

Anyway, Darren, which is the name he prefers, couldn't be a nicer and cooler bloke (or dude - which he thought was hilarious every time we said it). He laid down some trance classics (Let the Light Shine In, No One Earth and Fictivision vs. Phynn's Escape) and actually DID mix quite well (I paid attention this time). He's been DJ'ing for only 3 years for the fun of it he said, but producing of course for 10 plus. He also played two of his new unreleased demo songs which he wrote last week with Armin Van Buuren in Finland!!

We (Lana, Evan and I) hung out with him all night afterward and he couldn't be a more down to earth guy. The stories he told us, so non-chalantly, about playing at Cream @ Amnesia and Gatecrasher were amazing! Great night!! But this city is fucked and I'm quite ashamed of it and the lack of participation and knowledge of talent like Darren's.

AqvaYak · #2 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

i was there! ^ what she said.

PS. for those who didnt know, darren tate is JURGEN VRIES.

retarded seeing him like that.

maple blondie · #3 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

I enjoyed myself quite a bit actually, even though has mentioned above, the numbers of people there surprised me. So it was Wednesday, I still love trance.

"No one on Earth" was definately the highlight of my night.

SquiLa · #4 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

A couple more pics...

mojo · #5 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

did you at least get to suck the "international dj" Darrens dick??

stringbeans · #6 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

haaaaa

PwInCeSs · #7 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

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Originally Posted by stringbeans

haaaaa

oh wow lmao

SquiLa · #8 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

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Originally Posted by mojo

did you at least get to suck the "international dj" Darrens dick??

hey fuck you asshole. do you think that that's all a girl would be good for? ever consider that there are actually people that have interesting things to say out there. including girls.

enjoy your narrow life.

LDUB · #9 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

A small turnout does not necessary mean a lack of respect toward the DJ, the type of music etc... It's the day before a holiday, competition for patrons is high, and from what I heard, there was one event in particular that got most of the target audience.

Anjew · #10 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

he was good. real good.

Candy-Kid · #11 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

Squila i know you mean well but saying to people that they have no respect for him by not going is wrong. I think you need to rephase that

mojo · #12 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

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Originally Posted by SquiLa

hey fuck you asshole. do you think that that's all a girl would be good for? ever consider that there are actually people that have interesting things to say out there. including girls.

enjoy your narrow life.

i will im sure, narrow life though, dont u mean mind?

anyways, if you cant see the humor behind my post, then obviously i was accurate.thanks!

SquiLa · #13 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

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Originally Posted by Candy-Kid

Squila i know you mean well but saying to people that they have no respect for him by not going is wrong. I think you need to rephase that

I don't mean lack of personal respect for Darren Tate or any other DJ in particular. And I don't mean that anyone intentionally disrespects either.

Overall I am just disappointed with the city in general. I do not mean to dis FNK'ers. I *heart* all you guys (most anyway). The Top 40 or Hip Hop/R&B clubs are always packed in Vancouver. Good. Great for them, but it is just a shame that the talent, ability and creativity of the electronic scene isn't appreciated more widely (by more people: non-FNK'ers) like it is around the world instead of the popular plastic production puppets spawned out of hollywood that dominates our culture and is mainstream. Truth is there should be more people to spread around to all the events and there's just not.

When Darren Tate unjudging just asked us what was up with the Vancouver scene, we defended it and explained fully that there are lots of people that love electronica here but it's just not accepted widely like in London say.

What can I do? Nothing. Beat em or join em. Sorry if I offended anyone with my comments.

cubed · #14 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

that's kind of funny seeing how everyone was at an electronic night at the lotus instead.

guess your theory just kind of got dismissed right there.

the support is there for these nights, you're just going to the wrong ones.

SquiLa · #15 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

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Originally Posted by cubed

that's kind of funny seeing how everyone was at an electronic night at the lotus instead.

guess your theory just kind of got dismissed right there.

the support is there for these nights, you're just going to the wrong ones.

theory? how is it a theory; i have seen the difference between Vancouver and other cities in the trance scene with my very own eyes.

you're still missing the point of what i was saying. just forget it. it is better to not know what you're missing (and i mean Vancouver culture, in masses, compared to other cities)

cubed · #16 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

Other cities???

I grew up in vancouver and new york; I've been to clubs in Europe.

Hell, I work in a nightclub here!!!

There are good electronic nights in this city, and there are shitty ones.

If you really feel this way about the nights in Vancouver, my guess is that you're going to all the wrong ones.

Stop going to shit nights and thinking vancouver has no support for the electronic music scene, because if you were at any of the ones that were worth while in this city you would change your tune mighty quick.

SquiLa · #17 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

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Originally Posted by cubed

Other cities???

I grew up in vancouver and new york; I've been to clubs in Europe.

Hell, I work in a nightclub here!!!

There are good electronic nights in this city, and there are shitty ones.

If you really feel this way about the nights in Vancouver, my guess is that you're going to all the wrong ones.

Stop going to shit nights and thinking vancouver has no support for the electronic music scene, because if you were at any of the ones that were worth while in this city you would change your tune mighty quick.

I am not saying that there is NO GOOD NIGHTS. Benassi and Armin where two amazing (and packed) nights recently and attendance is directly related to how well known they are in the "mainstream". Can you not agree that it would be nicer if the mainstream focus was not on the rap they play on MM, Chingy, 50 cent, Eminem to name some quick examples?

Or do you like the Vancouver electronic scene to stay small and mostly underground enjoyed by a small portion of the population?

exergo · #18 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

the problem was it was $25 to see a dj that has never been here and that no one knows of.......done by promoters who have never done a club event before......at a club that is pretty top 40 & Hip Hop.......

Anjew · #19 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

^
*ding* *ding* *ding*
They know they need to look into marketing their nights a lil bit more from now on.

SquiLa · #20 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

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Originally Posted by cubed

Stop going to shit nights and thinking vancouver has no support for the electronic music scene, because if you were at any of the ones that were worth while in this city you would change your tune mighty quick.

^^ Holy shit, "worth while" ? If that isn't exactly the sort of thing I'm referring to then I don't know what is.

SquiLa · #21 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

Anyway, thanks to Harp and Kamal for putting on the night. I had great fun dancing, as usual.

And clearly, I don't think it's the promoting that needs adjustment.

That's all folks.

Seany G · #22 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

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Originally Posted by SquiLa

I am not saying that there is NO GOOD NIGHTS. Benassi and Armin where two amazing (and packed) nights recently and attendance is directly related to how well known they are in the "mainstream". Can you not agree that it would be nicer if the mainstream focus was not on the rap they play on MM, Chingy, 50 cent, Eminem to name some quick examples?
Or do you like the Vancouver electronic scene to stay small and mostly underground enjoyed by a small portion of the population?

This isn't about rap.

Have you ever been to Lotus on any number of nights (especially Fridays), or Sonar or Passion?

The turnout for benassi, or Armin, or Darren Tate DOES NOT reflect the Vancouver scene. Those are mainstream Dj's that either pull people or don't. THESE BIG SHOWS DO NOT SHOW HOW STRONG OR WEAK THE SCENE IS IN VANCOUVER. Theses 'nights' you speak of are pretty much commercial rock concerts, bring a big name Dj in and people will come (or not). If you really want to see how the scene is doing head down to Sonar, Lotus or one of the Passion nights and you'll really see how badly the scene is doing! ;)

Don't assume just because a certain DJ isn't marketable in vancouver that the whole scene is gone.

Go to a real 'night'. Not a big show. Go to a night where there are just locals playing @ Lotus or Passion and you'll see how dead the scene is. ;)

I've had some wicked-rad nights lately and i don't get it how you can blame 'the Vancouver scene' for being weak because they didn't show on a Wed when Lotus is always packed on Wednesdays (including this Wed). Maybe (haha...) the trance scene in vancouver is lame but the scene in general is all good as far as I'm concerned. :)

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Sorry kamal and Harp that I couldn't make it out. Had some emergency family stuff to take care of (everything is fine now). Thanks for the offer, it sounds like I missed a killer show! :)

~Sean

Anjew · #23 (**permalink**) Nov 12, 04

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Originally Posted by SquiLa

Anyway, thanks to Harp and Kamal for putting on the night. I had great fun dancing, as usual.

And clearly, I don't think it's the promoting that needs adjustment.

That's all folks.

no one said promotion was a problem.

Kraig · #24 (**permalink**) Nov 13, 04

There are many different factors in throwing a successful club event. Having the right talent on the right day of the week/weekend, at the right venue and for the right price are the majors.

Props to Karp and Hamal for doing what they did. From an attendance perspective, you win some and you loose some. I know for a fact that they have some other events in the near future so stay tuned for that!

Cheers.

SquiLa · #25 (**permalink**) Nov 13, 04

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Originally Posted by Seany G

This isn't about rap.

Have you ever been to Lotus on any number of nights (especially Fridays), or Sonar or Passion?

Don't assume just because a certain DJ isn't marketable in vancouver that the whole scene is gone.

Go to a real 'night'. Not a big show. Go to a night where there are just locals playing @ Lotus or Passion and you'll see how dead the scene is. ;)

I've had some wicked-rad nights lately and i don't get it how you can blame 'the Vancouver scene' for being weak because they didn't show on a Wed when Lotus is always packed on Wednesdays (including this Wed). Maybe (haha...) the trance scene in vancouver is lame but the scene in general is all good as far as I'm concerned. :)

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Hi Sean,

I didn't say the Vancouver scene is dead or weak. That's not what I meant at all! :imeanwell For what we have (population participation proportion wise - which is low) we are doing pretty damn good. FNK being a large cause and support for this.

And yes I have been to those nights. Sonar being my most frequented.

For me it is about rap crap (though don't get me wrong there is good hip hop as well) because it's what's mainstream/popular and it takes the place of electronica being more popular (like it is in other cities and countries). I myself listened to it for years and I wish someone would given me a shake. Thank god I found the way out. If american commercial rap wasn't the mainstream and therefore such a prominent distraction to kids today there would be more appreciation for the real talent (as opposed to american commercial mainstream stuff/Top 40 redundancy) of electronic producers, DJ's, artists. It's a culture and social trend thing. I've just seen how it could be, I'm a dreamer, running on ideals.

I'm not saying the scene isn't good! I have had many a wicked night in Vancouver and they only seem to be getting better (for me). In fact despite the low turn-out at Darren Tate I had an awesome time. I will continue to enjoy our lovely city and have fun doing it.

And bottom line: I appreciate the major talent that Vancouver attracts; we are very lucky. Darren said he usually only goes to cities in North America when he has other dates as well. We asked him why he came here even though he had no other NA shows this week and he said because our city is beautiful and he wanted to shop (haha that's awesome). He bought a bunch of Christmas presents for his family on Robson - awww.

That said, we have excellent local talent in Vancouver. My point applies to the DJ's because in other cities/countries the participation, appreciation and encouragement is much greater and more widespread and proportionate to the population than it is here. Athough competition would also be greater.

What can ya do? Except try and spread appreciation/educate others on what we all know is the truly creative and culturally diverse music of the future: electronica.

Phew. [/RANT]

P.S. ^ This so belongs in a thread of its own eh?