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Sep 14, 06
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"It's because of bullying"
I'm sick and tired of hearing people blame school shootings on bullying.
To blame school shootings on bullying is almost as stupid as blaming them on video games and music. Tons of people get bullied, its part of life - its not an excuse or a reason for school shootings, if it was then every school in the world would be getting shot up daily. for fuck sakes just because it's wrong doesn't mean it's the reason /end rant 
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not to condone the shootings at all (i thought they were reprehensable), but bullying is a very real and very shitty thing that kids have to deal with - and it's gotten worse as time has gone by. Does this justify Kimveer Gill's actions? Absolutely not. But to dismiss bullying as part of the problem that some of these kids snap would be an error as it could prevent a future event like this from occurring again.
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It's not entirely the reason, but there is some play into why it happens. Kids are mean, let's face it highschool is a war zone sometimes and people aren't nice to each other, that can drive anyone crazy, I know I've been there. However, there are other factors and it's everyone's fault when it happens, whether it's the school for not supplying a better support system, the students having cliche problems, the families for not knowing hteir own kids.... it's a whole web of problems, with the shooting being the big climax, the most you can do is learn from it and try and provide solutions before the solution is a shooting
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can bullying be a factor - yes, but its not the reason it happens
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you think a guy that goes into a school with a trenchcoat and gun and starts riddling the place wasnt bullyed?
im sure he didnt live in malibu with a silver spoon and all the friends in the world! this guy was more then likly picked on his whole life! doesnt mean thats what made him go nutty on the school, but i wouldnt be so dumb as to take it out of the equasion. in my opinion im sure it was a huge contributing factor.
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Edit: If the bullying type DO make it in, and still have the attitude problem... they usually end up dropping out by the time first semester is over. I was an easy target in high school. I got picked on everyday. And yes, it did effect me, I'm just not insane. Plus, by Gr. 12 I stoped giving a fuck what jocks thought. I know first hand that post secondary is different. PLUS, I bet that shithead in Montreal wasn't even enrolled! He was probably just mocking the events of Ecole Poly-Technique in 1989.
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There's bullying all throughout life so i don't see how post-secondary is an exception. People assert their power over others to satisfy their interests in many ways ranging from subtle to salient. It happens everywhere from the workplace to the street.
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Sep 14, 06
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^^^ there is bullying everywhere, whether it be at uni, or in the work place or what not. Like Kam said up there and pointed out so nicely, people like to assert their power over others and make others feel like shit to feel better about their own insecurities. So regardless of age, there are always going to be those people who are so insecure with themselves, they pick on others to satisfy that feeling
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Of course there is an easy to get rid of those types if your witty enough :p I still doubt the guy yesterday was even enrolled.
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The guy was obviously a bit fucked up to begin with. He had a profile on VampireFreaks.com for fuck's sake. I mean look at him
   I wouldn't blame the bullying, since everyone gets bullied. Bullied or not, he must have been a little off to begin with, so it could have been cliche "problem" that everyone has to deal with that set him off (ie: bullying, problems with parents, problems with teachers, having to get a job, etc, etc). Not discounting the possibility that his psychological disorders most likely stem from something deeper than that, just saying that issues like bullying, violent video games/music/movies, etc, are just the things those weirdos tend to gravitate to in the first place and not the cause of their problems. I guess what I'm saying is blame his parents for letting him get so fucked up in the first place. Last edited by Billy Shears; Sep 14, 06 at 07:35 PM.
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i'm not completely removing it either, I'm just fucking tired of people saying school shootings are because of bullying.
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The problem here is not one person but a society as a whole, we all have at some point been discriminated, bullied and stereotyped but nobody here shoots anyone right? The issue at hand has many many layers. When I hear about this kind of thing I always wondered what happen to good ol suicide...(that was clearly a joke of bad taste, suicide is also an issue that needs to be treated before its too late)
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I do think that alot of ppl who say that it is b/c of bullying is mainly due to that they don't entirely know for certain but it is most definetly a key factor in lots of situations or maybe they know from past experiences. I don't think that alot of ppl mean to say that it's so much an excuse but more of a reason.
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