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Old Sep 27, 07
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I dont know what to do.... pet owner problems...

My roommates cat Stewart is becoming a huge problem.

He pees on anything left on the floor... you leave you bag open he'll pee in it. Maybe a towel will fall off the bathroom towel rack... he'll pee on it.

Shoes are not safe...

He even goes in our bathtub... and he will go number two in there!!!!!!

I’ve even caught him peeing on stuff and my roommate got upset with me.

She said that he'll be in a new home soon. Hopefully... we've been hearing that she has been looking for a month and a bit now...

Outdoor cats should not live in an apartment suite on the second floor where they can't get outside to use the bathroom.

I have two indoor cats that use the litter box even if it is dirty (which isn’t often). She took my cat George to her dads apartment one night and he pee’d on his bathmat. But he was without a litter box and has never done it before

She still sometimes says that it could be one of my cats because of that incedent and it makes me so angry!!!!

I hate coming home at night and finding out my place smells like pee and having to clean up after him. I am so grateful we have hardwood flooring….

I’ve said to her "This is the LAST time I’m cleaning up after him" too many times in the past month.

What would you do in this situation?? Keep in mind she is my best friend.
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Old Sep 27, 07
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cats peeing is a health hazard. i would say take to for a one way walk to the vet
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Old Sep 27, 07
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Im going to look on the internet for the health hazards and hand it to her.


Its not like my place is a total dive that is disgusting... I disinfect and scrub everything...


Its just really annoying and gross... I got really angry once and told her that if she has a problem getting rid of the cat then her and her cat can find a new place to live.


Im not trying to be a bitch but I want that cat gone.
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Old Sep 27, 07
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when cat piss goes into the carpet it seeps into the wood. and you cant get that shit out.

thats why i only have chinchillas!
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Old Sep 27, 07
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and by get that shit out i meant the piss
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Old Sep 27, 07
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Seriously, get rid of that roomate.
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Old Sep 27, 07
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^agreed, the cat isn't the main problem; the roomate is.
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Old Sep 27, 07
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She is my best friend... and it would be hard kicking her out.


I told her two weeks ago that she had two weeks to do something about it. I received a text from her stating that her mom will be taking him when she moves into her new place.

Her and my bf constantly argue about the cat and I feel stuck in the middle.

I can see why she doesnt want him to go to the spca but I dont know how much longer I can wait. If the cat isnt gone by the first week in Oct... then I guess she'll have no other choice.
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Urine marking
Spraying

AffectedAnimals:
Any cat that is at least six months old, the age at which most cats reach sexual maturity. Unneutered males are most likely to spray. Neutered males, unneutered females, and neutered females also may exhibit this behavior.

Overview:
A very common behavioral problem of cats, urine marking accounts for 40 percent of the feline cases brought to veterinary behavioral specialists, according to a recent study. Cats "spray," or conduct in urine marking, when they deposit their urine on prominent objects in order to communicate with other cats. Characteristically, while urine marking, the cat assumes a standing posture and squirts a horizontal stream of urine onto a vertical surface; thus the term "spraying." This behavior, which is normal, is considered problematic to owners when the cat marks indoors, since urine ruins walls, furniture, carpets, and floors; outdoor urine marking, however, is an expected behavior. Male cats that have not been neutered are most likely to urine mark?and unfortunately, the urine of a male cat is especially pungent and resistant to odor removers.

Clinical Signs:
Owners may observe their cat "spraying," notice a urine odor, or find evidence of urine on vertical surfaces. Sometimes the urine may be found on horizontal surfaces, but in these instances the urine usually has been deposited on such objects as shoes, clothing or new or unfamiliar items.

Symptoms:
See Clinical Signs.

Description:
Urine marking is a normal social behavior of domestic cats which serves several communication functions depending on the context in which the spraying occurs and the temperament and physiology of the individual cat that is spraying. Contrary to popular belief, spraying does not function to exclude other cats from the marking cat?s territory; other cats approach rather than avoid sprayed sites. One possible function of urine marking is to serve as an "advertisement" to a potential sexual partner during the mating season, as the urine gives information about the cat?s identity, age, and mating status.

Diagnosis:
Before a behavioral diagnosis is made, the regular veterinarian must rule out possible medical problems that might be causing the cat?s spraying behavior, such as urinary tract and metabolic diseases. Blood tests, a urinalysis, and other diagnostic procedures may be ordered.



The next step is for the behavioral veterinary specialist or veterinarian to distinguish between urine marking and urination by either observing the cat?s posture or by noting the location of the deposited urine?whether it is on a horizontal or vertical surface. A diagnosis of urine marking can be made if, while urinating, the cat stands with its rear legs very straight so that its hindquarters are slightly higher than the rest of its body. A marking cat also holds its tail either straight up or directed forward at a 45 degree angle, quivers its tail, and makes treading movements with its feet. Occasionally, a cat may mark in a squatting posture. In addition, subtle behavioral differences from those manifested during urination may be observed. For example, the marking cat usually only sniffs the area before expressing urine rather than both before and after, as occurs with urination.

Prognosis:
Castration stops or greatly reduces urine marking in 87 percent of intact males that spray. Generally, cats will cease spraying within two weeks after undergoing this procedure; however, improvement may not occur for up to six months in some cats. The use of medication such as Valium or Buspar along with environmental and behavioral controls results in a 75 percent reduction of spraying in most cats. Unfortunately, urine marking does tend to recur, despite the initial success of treatment. Continuous treatment with medication does not necessarily prevent recurrences and is not recommended due to the increased likelihood of side effects with prolonged usage.

Transmission or Cause:
Genetic differences in cats are partially responsible for the individual differences in spraying behavior among cats. Facilitated by the male hormone testosterone, urine marking occurs primarily as a response to stimuli from other cats because the presence of urine odor may initiate and perpetuate spraying within the household. Thus, cats that live in multiple cat households are much more likely to spray than cats that live in single cat homes; the incidence of spraying in single cat households is 25 percent, while in households or facilities containing 10 or more cats, the incidence is measured at 100 percent. Once spraying develops within the home, there is often a learned association between spraying and specific sites, which then become established "marking-posts."

Treatment:
For unneutered cats, neutering by itself is often effective in eliminating or greatly reducing urine marking. In neutered cats that spray, however, environmental, behavioral and pharmacological management is required.



Urine marking occurs in sexual, territorial and competitive contexts. Treatment requires first identifying the specific social or environmental factors that trigger the marking and then both limiting the cat?s exposure to those factors and reducing its response to them.

Environmental management involves making changes in the household that reduce the cat?s exposure to arousing stimuli. For example, when the presence of stray or neighbor cats triggers spraying, it is necessary to either block the cat?s view of those cats or to use repelling devices to keep the other cats away. Sometimes it is possible to work out a "traffic control" schedule with neighbors to reduce the cats? exposure to one another.



In multiple cat households, reducing the number of cats can be helpful, but this option often is undesirable to owners. Hostility between household cats must be identified and reduced, using behavior modification, spacing techniques, and medication. Fortunately, by increasing the availability of vertical space, the impact of having? multiple cats within the same house may be diminished; providing access to elevated perches and hiding places often is beneficial. Setting out multiple food and water bowls and litter boxes also may help reduce competition among the cats and consequently the motivation to urine mark.



If specific sites are used as marking-posts, the cat?s access to them must be blocked. Another option is to change the sites? significance to the cat: Feliway, a synthetic facial pheromone behavior modification product that is now available from veterinarians, is helpful in converting urine marking posts to face-rubbing posts. It is also important to eliminate the odor of urine in order to manage a cat?s marking behavior. Odor removal products obtained through a veterinarian often provide the best results. In cases in which urine has soaked through to the carpet padding or has permeated wood flooring, removal and replacement may be required to eliminate the odor.



A cat?s response to arousing stimuli also can be reduced through a desensitization process developed in conjunction with an individual behavior modification program developed by a professional with experience in veterinary behavior. Punishment is not helpful and in fact may increase the frequency of spraying.



Pharmacological treatment is necessary in the management of spraying that is unresponsive to neutering and other treatments. There are several different classes of drugs that can be beneficial: benzodiazepines such as Valium, tricyclics such as Elavil, selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors such as Prozac, and Buspar, a drug in the class of azaperones. The decision use to drugs should not be decided casually, as there are potential side effects with all of these medications.

Prevention:
Neutering is a recommended preventive measure because intact male cats have the highest incidence of urine marking. Limiting the number of cats in the household also will help limit the social stimuli associated with marking behavior. In multiple cat households, it is helpful to reduce the potential for competition and thus a need to mark territory by providing adequate vertical space, perches, hiding places, and multiple litter boxes and feeding bowls.
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Old Sep 27, 07
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google motherfucker , do you use it? ;)
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^ Yes I did.

The other cats in my house do not spray... and Im not looking for reasons why her cat sprays or how to prevent it.

Even if I was to give her this information I highly doubt she would take the time to read it.

I was asking for advice on how to get rid of the cat without hurting my friends feelings. Or how to ask her to move out with the cat without hurting her feelings.

Can you google that advice??
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^ Yes I did.

The other cats in my house do not spray... and Im not looking for reasons why her cat sprays or how to prevent it.

Even if I was to give her this information I highly doubt she would take the time to read it.

I was asking for advice on how to get rid of the cat without hurting my friends feelings. Or how to ask her to move out with the cat without hurting her feelings.

Can you google that advice??
Start off by peeing in her shoes and once or twice in the kitchen or maybe the hallway floor. When your roomate comes home say im sick and tired of cleaning your cats piss so you can clean mine.


Seriously though you're being FAR TOO KIND and you need to get rid of your roomate regardless of how your friendship is. You can't let a cat do that to your shared living space and obvioulsy she doesn't mind it as much as you do.

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^ Im thinking about sending her this link so she can see that Im not the only one who feels this way.


Any time we bring it up to her she just snaps at us and avoids the topic.
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I was asking for advice on how to get rid of the cat without hurting my friends feelings. Or how to ask her to move out with the cat without hurting her feelings.

Can you google that advice??


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Start off by peeing in her shoes and once or twice in the kitchen or maybe the hallway floor.
I got the funniest mental picture of someone actually doing that, ew!! *chuckle*
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^ Im thinking about using his advice....


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Old Sep 27, 07
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As someone who has had an asshole pissing cat..I really understand how she feels. She obviously loves her cat and doesn't want to send him just anywhere. (Funny that I sent my pissy cat to my moms house too...once she was back outside and free..she stopped spraying.)

Im suprised that you haven't already done this...Lock the fucker in the bathroom. Let him piss in the tub if he wants too..nothing a little hot water and bleach can't clean up. Lock him up all the freaking time. It is most likely an issue of marking his scent because of the other cats...so if he is locked up, he can't do much damage!

Cat pee is the worst smell..it never goes away!! But as far as "get rid of the roomate" thats a little drastic. It's not her fault the cat is a pisser and to try to find a good home for one of thousands of homeless cats can be extremely difficult.

Just be patient..is it worth losing a friend over? I doubt it =D
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have you tried pissing on the cat, maybe then it will change its ways
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As someone who has had an asshole pissing cat..I really understand how she feels. She obviously loves her cat and doesn't want to send him just anywhere. (Funny that I sent my pissy cat to my moms house too...once she was back outside and free..she stopped spraying.)

Im suprised that you haven't already done this...Lock the fucker in the bathroom. Let him piss in the tub if he wants too..nothing a little hot water and bleach can't clean up. Lock him up all the freaking time. It is most likely an issue of marking his scent because of the other cats...so if he is locked up, he can't do much damage!

Cat pee is the worst smell..it never goes away!! But as far as "get rid of the roomate" thats a little drastic. It's not her fault the cat is a pisser and to try to find a good home for one of thousands of homeless cats can be extremely difficult.

Just be patient..is it worth losing a friend over? I doubt it =D

Thank you for giving some advice I can use. He is locked in her room when he is inside the house... when she is gone he is outside.

She is considering moving if she cant find a place for her cat soon. Which I dont want her to do I love living with her.
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Another thing is when he is locked outside he howls... I'm surprised the spca hasn't come and taken him away due to that!
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Old Oct 11, 07
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So... the cat is still not gone.


I have been woken up on more than one occasion by it howling outside....


Like last night, the cat woke me up at 10:30pm and keep me awake until 12am... I tried to let it in but the stupid fucking thing kept running away as soon as I opened the door.

As mean as it sounds Im to the point where Im thinking of calling the spca and making a noise complaint...

Would you feel bad if you did that?


Should I?
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Jenna, grow some fuckin balls and tell your "friend" to fuck right off with the cat, if she is really your friend she would have weex ago.
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