rejected by welfare!!!

[messejesse]

it really pisses me off how the government works out here. I was harsh denied and STILL friggn homeless. So I've been walking round with a rusty cro-bar up my ass all day....so bitter...

I decided a shelter is the best right now since everyone was avicted frum the bridge (my home). Its real sad cuz it was a good place to go...now I'm @ covenant house (real structured catholic shelter) I get food, internet access, and a bed (I'm not allowed in my room though and curfew is a @ 10:00pm....is that normal?) I've had jobs where I got off @ 10:P...ya if anyone is curious I'm still @ lush but I got promoted.

I h8 breaking the ice socializing n crap....like highschool all over...and I think this crobar makes me look like a biatch...I've been practising not swearing too...god dammit I needa smoke

kisses..hehe ...hugz..HAHAHA... I needa get laid.. :sick:
messjess

[krisamata]

JESSE!!!

sounds like yer having fun?!!?!?

anyways i miss you!! happy belated bday!!

[tufflove]

the bridge?........wheres that?
not under one i hope!
well good luck dawlin and congratz on ur promotion.
covenent house eh?.......be careful!
i needa get laid too,i feel ya bro.
oxoxoxmissxoxox

[L2-da-izzay]

dude mang im commin out to help bro, blah fukin anti bridge pigs, e-mail me bro

[messejesse]

so I'm 2 this shelter and its so strict..but whatever I needa save and get $$ under my belt. I hope the housing co-op programs pulls through, cuz that would save me so much cash~like %30 of my income.

I SWEAR to GOD...oops..I mean I love u jesus (forgot where I was) that I'd get a hosue by june...

by the way everyone my cell has been cut off.

I hope all is peachy in van.
peace
messjess

[glowball]

Welfare is bullshit. People might run across hard times, but a system that allows the hardworking middle class to get fucked by over taxation to support people who don't work, sickens me.

[Hot Karl]

^idiot i think she means a housing co-op, she has a job, if you bothered to read. it sounds like you're the one who's gonna end up on welfare.

[tufflove]

she??
messe jesse is a he .

[Hot Karl]

oh whatever, that's not important to the point.

[tufflove]

no its not but you did jus' call mah hom,mie a gurl.
whatevs.
i still think ur a cool laidee.

[Hot Karl]

thank you sir!

[No trace]

where are you?

[onefournine]

You can't get welfare if you have a job. Though, in BC, if your job isn't paying you enough to live off of, you can get "income assistance," wherein you are given a certain amount of extra income each month (up to a total maximum gross income). Originally, this was seperate from welfare. Now, I think it is incorporated into the welfare system, as part of the gradual process of getting people back into the workforce.

As for the validity of programs such as this, I invite you to spend some time in an impoverished community. Go talk to a few people who truly have had difficulty finding work, due to age, lack of education, or health issues. Go talk to those who had once made a good living in a now defunct industry. Go talk to single moms. Even go talk to a junkie.

Whilst talking to these people, keep in mind that without social assistance they would most likely end up in a squalor like the lower east-side, but much larger in scope. Consider a network of tent cities coursing through the alleyways of East Van. Consider the crime that would result, and the sanitation and relative good health that would vanish. Consider the costs of dealing with this, and the loss of property value affecting your very own dearly held dollar.

Surely, in a way, people on welfare are parasites living off of others. They are also people with hopes and dreams, and with problems. Welfare serves not only as a simple means to support them, but also as the one last connection they have ensuring that their situation does not get any worse. It keeps them in touch with the resources neccessary to rebuild their lives should they come around.

Yes, it is a large investment with little return. But, if we can't attempt to help those in poverty, then what is the alternative? Ignoring them?

[mikey]

^^^^

Very well said !

[Crazy Dave]

onefournine, go meet messejesse,,, go see how hard he's trying. Some times in life when you are young you don't have all the resource and life skill to manage.

I'm fucking lucky in my world,,, I'll lucky as all hell. See I had the job, and I had a lot of it,,, I kept losing my mind. God dropped a small PA on me, and then from that and with TONS of help from people I got more and more, and now finally I'm back off of welfare, and not living a life that I suffer a major break down losing my work all the time.

[Riot]

um why would u goto toronto without plans?

[beki]

i dont know what haz been sed and i dont know if im totally going off the topic but yeah ......
you better come back to van i hope you do and umm yar remember how i sed i wuz going to toronto well guess what...i am yay erghhh you better hang with me if i do go there and introduce me to some pplz ooohhhh i cant wait to go there itll be a blast just cuz ill get to see you erghh dont know what eles to say but keep in touch with me cause im going up to toronto this or next month
xoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxxox ooxxooxxoxoxoxo
*kisses*
beki

[tanya]

hi baby.....
I miss you.
I really wish you were closer sometimes. I wanna see what you're doing. I wanna have those casual daily chats about nothing like we used to have all the time, you know, like everyday, daily...... yeah. I dunno dude. Life's so much better when you're around.
Maybe I should come to Toronto. I mean geez... We were able to own Vancouver pretty fast, how long do you think it would take us to hit up TO? Sorry muffin, no, Im muffin, youre danish I think... anyways, sorry danish, It's just that my life is such a bore without you :057: . Come back damn it. Ive had just about enough of this.
There is so much I have to tell you. Call me, okay? please?
I miss you, I love you...hmm, I loss you? or maybe I mive you?
Tanya

[SEAN!]

notice how most of the people who talk about welfare in this thread are or were big time tekkers?....maybe this is one of the reasons that for most of our lives people like our parents, teachers and media have been telling us that drugs are bad. Who would've thought that drug addicts can't hold jobs?...


i hope i didn't offend anyone in this thread cuz i know you all are good people, but i can't be very sympathtic to people who conciously decide to fuck themselves over. just keep your head up and the rough times will pass.

[Dialate]

^^^^
Well put, it is and always will be your own conscience decision that affects every aspect of your life.
If you dont want to be on welfare-get a job.
If you want more money-stop doing drugs.
You want to be smarter-read a book.

THOUGHT + ACTION=CREATION.....EVERY TIME!!!

So much of our perspective and how we respond to the world
around us relates to what we choose to think about.
Recently I heard a phrase, the application of which is
drastically changing my response to many situations. Over
time, as this becomes my habit, it is going to help me
with some behaviors I've wanted to change for a long time.

I was listening to a CD as I drove to a meeting.
The speaker "Why not choose fascination rather than
frustration?" He went on to say that he used to get
frustrated much more often than he does now, in part
because rather than choosing to be frustrated by a
situation he chooses to be fascinated instead. He went on
to say he still does get frustrated sometimes, but this
mental shift had made a positive impact on his life.

While I am a very positive person, I do get frustrated.
I get frustrated when my computer won't do what I want it
to do. I get frustrated by my child's behavior at
times, when it doesn't match my expectations. Many days
I get frustrated by my own inability to get as much done
as I would like. (I could go on, but my list of
frustrations wouldn't make for very good reading.)

Sometimes I Get It

In reflecting this observation I realized that I am
already pretty good at this in some parts of my life.
When the source of the frustration is outside of my
control - an airport delay or traffic tie-up are two
situations that come to my mind - I have been able to
reduce my own frustration.

In fact, I have often found it enjoyable and enlightening
to focus on the hilarity of other peoples' responses to
these situations. I can think of more than one time while
in a car, or a line of some sort, when I was smiling and
chuckling inside at the clearly counterproductive behaviors
of those around me. Without realizing it, I was moving to
an observer perspective, which was leading me to be more
fascinated and less frustrated.

With My Computer

A functioning computer is one of the most important business
assets I possess. In the past few months I have
had some nagging problems with my laptop - all related to
the fact that I needed more memory and a bigger hard
drive. In short, it was time for a new machine. When I
first started encountering some intermittent problems, I
would throw my own little pity party - and be frustrated
while trying to solve the problem. The problem with a
pity party is that while you are partying, you aren't
focused on moving forward. I like going to parties, and
am seldom the first to leave - but this isn't the kind of
party where it pays to linger.

Eventually I realized the partying had to stop. As I
began to notice the signs of impeding problems, I was able
to reduce the severity of those problems. As I paid
attention (became fascinated), I learned how to recover
from these problems more quickly.

I write this with my new PC, and the problems of the
last one are quickly fading in my memory. The lesson
hasn't though - with the new machine comes new versions
of software, settings to modify, other software to load and
test. the fascination lesson will continue to be important
over the next few days!


With My Kid

I love my kid dearly, and I hope and pray that I am a
good father. Mostly, I think I am, but sometimes I find
myself getting frustrated by his actions. While I know
this is something all parents face, unfortunately, I
haven't always handled my frustration in the most
productive ways. My approach has, too often, been to raise
my voice - both to get his attention and to correct or
modify the behavior. While I don't believe there is
necessarily anything wrong with this approach, I use it
too often, especially for things that don't require this
level of interaction.

This is a behavior I have been working on for some time
and the concept of choosing fascination over frustration
(relating to their behavior) is going to be a huge key to
helping me change my response.

Frustration and Fascination

We all get frustrated. Things don't go our way and we get
frustrated. One of the early lessons we learn as kids is
that things don't always go the way you want. Our life
experiences have confirmed this. We don't get the
promotion, we don't like the way our boss talks to us, our
car is making a funny noise, we can't find a parking
place, we lose the softball game because of a stupid play
by the third baseman. Our frustrations in life are big
and small.

In contrast, to be fascinated is to be captivated by
something - to be interested. When we are interested in
something we notice, we observe things. When we are
fascinated by something we are drawn to learn from or
about it - quite a different response from frustration and
the places it can lead us.

Choices

It is inevitable in life that things don't always go
exactly the way we'd like. Typically people would then
say that it is then inevitable that we will be frustrated.
The frustration however, is not the situation itself, but
a response or a choice. We have conditioned ourselves
to choose frustration. We can also choose to be fascinated
in these situations. Choosing frustration can lead to
regret, anger, resentment and more. Choosing fascination
can lead to understanding, knowledge, and improved results
and relationships.

The choice is mine. And the choice is yours.