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Old Jul 27, 01
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When threads are deleted

Makes me angry when I come in here to gripe and go to return to that post only to see that it has been deleted...and for no good reason....especially when nobody was specified and no race, religion, or sex was offended....ugh....just really bothers me...
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Old Jul 27, 01
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I KNOW!

(sometimes they just move it though)

but...but....I KNOW!!!
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Old Jul 27, 01
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*eep*..i hate that..specially when i think nuthin i;ve posted was wrong but??..i dunno..maybe it was sumone who replied with sumthign that seemed wrong or sumthign??..wutever..threads that are moved suck too..~
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Old Jul 31, 01
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personally i think some people htat have the power to do such things on this site *excluding myself of course*..are trying to be a lil too politcally correct....especially with the closing of threads for no GOOD reason...jus cuz they can....i dunno..i think some peeps are abusing their power.....jus a thought....

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Old Jul 31, 01
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Ummmm, what threads are you refurring to exactaly?
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Old Jul 31, 01
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Well said

Exactly what I'm talkin about corrie...
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Old Aug 01, 01
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I personally like it. They're not my threads, so I'm not hurt any. And I think it cleans this messy forum up a little. Also there was alot of threads that were in the wrong section, I noticed. Which was a nuisance to pick through when it should be simple because their are so many forums.

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Old Aug 01, 01
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http://www.form-kaos.com/showthread....2981#post32981

i personally have had 3 threads deleted, and this is my second post that has been changed.

i can possibly see how one thread was deleted, snyx has misvalued his old n64 to which i pointed out the real market value. seems cool enough to delete it.

but this thread is only changed to serve an ego. it wasn't racist, it wasn't even personal. it did not even compare to what had been spat out by smh and bob earlier.

it doesn't anger me so much as irritate me for the reasons it was taken off. if there was an actual problem, or if it was way too offensive, i could understand why it would be changed. perhaps even if i was sent an email about it i would have been okay with it. to have it changed and then been notified of the change and the reasons more than a petty deflection from the point.

but it was changed to serve bob and bob's idea of himself.

in the end this is a message board, this is not a democratic country. it never was. this board has chosen to have moderators, and that is thier job. i really have no say in what is done with my posts.

the ability to censor is a great power not to be taken lightly. to censor a post that is not directly offensive to the whole is a slippery slope to traverse.

sure it could be argued that my post had no great merit. it wasn't shakespere. it was kind of biting but wasn't mean spirited.

but how how to you rationalize totally changing it?

the rationalization that a post is 'lame' or 'stupid' can be applied to many posts. we are now moving away from obvious things like racism and sexism, and into having moderators make large judgement calls based on thier own feelings.

censors should be here to weed out offensive and crossed posts. as soon as censors start making judgement calls about who is 'stupid' and 'lame' and which posts should not be seen by other people.

what happens when a moderator is having an argument with a non-moderator?

all in all, i am dismayed that bob chose to change my reply, other than actaully replying to it, but i believe that it says way more changed than it ever did when it was normal.

peas.

r.
(waiting for this post to be changed/moderated out)
((snyx, if you really don't want me never to post anymore, feel free to email me to discuss it, since i do not want to take up any board space))
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Old Aug 01, 01
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listen ... that was the second post u put in that thread, i shouldn't have even let the first one slide... i understand u want to express your opinion of me, and do so in an arrogant manner... but it's not something that's welcome in the HEART 2 HEART section...

the reason i let the first one slide, was because you simply made a suggestion. i replied with my typical humorous response... it was your response to this, that i found offensive. the fact that i am a moderator in the heart 2 heart section is only relevant to the fact that your post got deleted IMMEDIATELY... had i not been a mod, i would've consulted with another moderator, and seen to it that the appropriate actions be taken...


your second post had no value to it. other than an insult. i've had snyx delete my posts before, for the same reasons. yes, even us mods get moderated...


now this is the gripe section, u can bitch about me all u want... that's the theme of this section... but i hope u can understand that your post in the "feeling kinda empty rite now... :(" thread in the heart2heart section had no relevance to either the thread, or the section... it doesn't take a brainiac to clue into the fact that "heart 2 heart" is a section where people wanna share their feelings and stuff with each other, and find a helping hand, or a shoulder to cry on. positive feedback... not some jackass kicking people while they're down (i'm not calling you a jackass, it's just an example)... F&K as a whole, is a respectable community. let's try to keep it that way. like i said, i know you have an opinion of me, and i'm all for freedom of speech, and fuck democracy and whatnot. but i also stress that each post be relevant to the topic it was posted in, and suitable for the section it's in.
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Old Aug 01, 01
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listen ... that was the second post u put in that thread, i shouldn't have even let the first one slide... i understand u want to express your opinion of me, and do so in an arrogant manner... but it's not something that's welcome in the HEART 2 HEART section...
but an arrogant 'shutup' and 'abusing my powers' is perfectly okay as long as it is a moderator doing it?

was thier a reason why the poast wasn't out and out deleted, or did you feel like you needed to get the last word in?

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the reason i let the first one slide, was because you simply made a suggestion. i replied with my typical humorous response...
and my second post directly related to the first and was in reply to you.

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it was your response to this, that i found offensive.
but was it offensive to f+k or offensive to you?

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your second post had no value to it. other than an insult.
in that case:

snyx's comment in that thread is an insult that has nothing to do with the thread. please moderate that.

when you are done, please moderate where you tell me to shutup, since that is an insult with no relevance to the thread.

unless of course the insults of moderators is more important than whatever you took offence to from me. it seems that by deleting my singular insult 2 more have replaced it.

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now this is the gripe section, u can bitch about me all u want... that's the theme of this section... but i hope u can understand that your post in the "feeling kinda empty rite now... :(" thread in the heart2heart section had no relevance to either the thread, or the section... it doesn't take a brainiac to clue into the fact that "heart 2 heart" is a section where people wanna share their feelings and stuff with each other, and find a helping hand, or a shoulder to cry on.
if you had emailed me with this or had replaced my post with text along these lines then im sure everything would be okay.


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positive feedback... not some jackass kicking people while they're down
oh yeah *rolls eyes*. you and stabby were sure giving each other postive feedback. how could i have dirtied such a cheery thread with my downer babble.

r.
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Old Aug 01, 01
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hey what are ya gunna do? ya can't get me banned, and ya can bitch all you want, nobody is going to care. fuck, simply leave.
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Old Aug 01, 01
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hey what are ya gunna do? ya can't get me banned, and ya can bitch all you want, nobody is going to care. f*ck, simply leave.
i don't want you banned. i don't want anyone banned. i was making a point.

what people care about is up to them, not you, last time i checked.

as for what can i do? i can do a heck of a lot.

like i said, if you wish to have me leave, i'm open to talk about it. i'll even set up a mail account for you. [email protected] . feel free to mail it and we can save space on the message board.

newtch.

r.
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Old Aug 01, 01
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listen shitdip. i appreciate your arguments, i'm guessing u like to argue, and i'm pretty sure u won't shutup until someone takes your side and you feel good about yourself... i do it all the time... if i could afford the education, i'd love to be a fuckin' lawyer...

but being a smartass will only get u so far...

now even though snyx just posted a pretty cold reply to what you had to say... i'm taking his side. which isn't something i do on a daily basis, just cuz i'm a mod and he's god, don't assume me & him are here to gang up on you...

...obviously u've put a lot of time and thought into your arguments in this thread... that's exactly what we (well, at least me...i'm sure there's others here...) like to see on f&k... even if it is a rant, as long as it's within context, and in the appropriate section... quality is what i like to see...

think about what you posted in reply to my thread in heart 2 heart... was there much thought put into it? did u expect anyone to appreciate what u wrote?

when i changed your post to "shutup", i did it with the intent to straighten you up... i'll delete the post when i get around to it... i just wanted to make sure you read it... tough love, right?


...to make a long story short... umm... shutup. if u don't like the way things work here... then leave. but personally, i'd rather u not...

so if u need to further pursue your argument, u can e-mail me... [email protected] ... or u can just keep this thread going...
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Old Aug 01, 01
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oh yea, and about me & stabby not leaving "positive feedback"... like i said, "ur new here aren't u?" ... me and stabby are always like that... it's almost like our way of online foreplay or something...

it's what we do... u'll get used to it if u stick around...
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Old Aug 01, 01
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why cant we all just get along??

oh yeah. its cuz we're stupid. PLUR.

i hate putting the vegetables back in their wheelchairs after eating them... oh wait. this is the wrong thread...

rawb. you are a good contribution and add light to f&k. i hope you dont get banned. and im pretty sure everyone or most ppl on f&k are used to me and bobs lil diaper fights. hissy fits. bitch hollars. mud wrestling. fighting over the custody of our child. davEEE.

now this is the part that bothers me. why kick rawb off? cuz he doesnt agree with what certain ppl view? isnt that like killing off ppl cuz YOU THINK they are evil? that they are possesed.? how prehistoric of us.. how primitive that our thoughts and actions have not changed.. i dunno. what if forsay, someone like Kimmie or someone that is a "nice" poster, aka. somone that avoids trouble, (sorry kimmie. just using you for an example -PLUR-). a hardcore lil f&k poster that seemimgly doesnt seem to have a problem with anyone and one day SNAP. and starts flaming everyone. what then? would we flame her back or just be all "awwwwwww... bad day? take careeeeeee"

this is me rambling and not making sense...

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Old Aug 01, 01
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im not gonna point out any specific posts or anything...im jus making an observation that ive noticed throughout my time onthe site...but if u do want an example theres this..i remember way back when, when bob posted a pick and made fun of her complexion at the time...that thread was closed and later deleted...i saw no need to do such a thing since it was quite amusing and was nothing really offensive....

but thats jus one isolated incident but it was needless to delete it...i noticed one the other day but it was closed but now i can't seem to find it...i forget where it was but beatITfarmer had replied tothe post or started the thread i do remember that....

i was jus stating that maybe mods and GODS..*i guess*...should maybe be a lil more open minded when it comes to a message board..i have yet to ever be offended or known anyone to be offended for a legitimate reason by any post on the site...i could be wrong about that but im jus stating an opinion...
maybe the Private Messaging service could be used to inform the poster if its really THAT severe and have them change it.,...if not then resort to the deletion of the post...but other than that...its an abuse of power....

corrie
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Old Aug 01, 01
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well said cowboy... WELL said! hahahaha
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Old Aug 01, 01
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thnx cowboy, bob, stabby...

i obviously don't care what the changed thread says. i'm a big boy:)

the point was to get people talking and to take a side on the issue, even if they don't agree with me, at least they *think* about it. cuz it's something worth thinking about.

no hard feelings on the issue and all that.

r.
(wow snyx! looks like people do care what i say! whodathunk!)
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Old Aug 01, 01
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Unfortunately I missed the posts but modifying them and deleting them is kinda bunk unless it's a valid reason.

But like i said i never read them and i've seen a few of rawbs posts here and there and i've never been offended.

Carry on..:029:
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Old Aug 01, 01
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DO I have to bring out the pepper spray and rubber bullets again?

Cuff em all!

Cuff em all!

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Old Aug 01, 01
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like to see on f&k... even if it is a rant, as long as it's within context, and in the appropriate section... quality is what i like to see...

when i changed your post to "shutup", i did it with the intent to straighten you up... i'll delete the post when i get around to it... i just wanted to make sure you read it... tough love, right?
Why not just type "shut up" using your own user name? "Tough Love" is a poor excuse to play computer mind games.

Bad moderation. Don't you want people to visit this site?

And I am in favour of "good moderation" don't mess with people's posts if they aren't offensive or posted in the wrong section. Personal reasons is a bullocks reasoning. And as a user of f-k I do appreciate "quality" reading like werdyboys odd post. And Dj.Form and Kaos know where the good moderation is at! :)


~vesperstina

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Old Aug 01, 01
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wow snyx! looks like people do care what i say! whodathunk!
hey, I never implied people didn't care what you had to say. I implied I didn't care what you had to say.
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Old Aug 02, 01
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I have to say...as a mod, I don't think I've ever deleted or changed anyone's posts since the beginning of this site, unless they had personally PM'ed me or emailed me to edit certain things for them...

I rarely take offence to what people write within their posts... it's their own opinion, their own personality, and their own individuality...

This is a message board on the internet...there are barely any guidelines to it, but if *fighting, :289: insulting, accusing, etc* actually take place, the person possibly may get a warning, but regardless, I don't think this site really puts that much restriction on what people want to say :111: and feel

That is my opinion... :237:

And honestly, I don't know what posts or threads have been deleted in the past, but there are so many nowadays it's hard to keep up, you know?
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Old Aug 02, 01
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hey, I never implied people didn't care what you had to say. I implied I didn't care what you had to say.
really?

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and ya can bitch all you want, nobody is going to care.
oh well.

r.
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Old Aug 02, 01
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heheh...you hadto get that in there eh werdyboy....is that why they call u that.."werdyboy"...
but it was a valid observation since he did backtrack..hehehe...
but now we're gettin picky...i think the point was made....

corrie
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