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Sep 16, 03
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Panhandlers, squeegee kids and the like
I am personally sick and tired of people walking up to me and asking me for change.
One guy asks me for change I wave him off and he says "Hey man... you don't have to be like that!" and I reply "If you don't like it then don't ask the question. You started this!" You ask for a handout, I refuse and now I get attitude. If you have the energy to go out and beg for change I am sure if you decided to get a entry level job you could eake out a living. Lots of people do. In fact lots of people I see do jobs that I cannot say I would LIKE to do but they do it anyway in order to make a living. I do RESPECT these people that do these 'menial' jobs. I do RESPECT the kids that go work at McDonald's instead of rebelling and going on the street begging for change because they are 'too good for that' and their parents aren't cool enough to understand. I have earned everything I have and that's not a whole lot. If you try a substance and get addicted to it, you get ZERO sympathy from me. You try it, you suffer the consequences of your actions. Saying you can't do anything because one is cracked out on a drug addiction is crap. Might as well save up the cash you collected, triple your daily hit and end it. You'll save society some money to support the results of your habit because of it. Anyway... I'm bitter and my rant it over. I'll feel better after having some chocolate. 
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Sep 16, 03
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We walked down town one night and were refusing everone and their sob story, for the same reasons you have.
but them this one guy comes up and he asks us for come money and we're like what for and he says: I need a beer and a blow job. so we gave him like 5 bucks in change. I thought it was funny. "Here here's 100 bucks get a shower a suit and a shave and go get a real Job. And If I see you on the street again with a busket I'm going to shoot you"
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You are too smart Myra... that's what triggered the rant with the other events that happened to me this morning.
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Sep 16, 03
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Know what I always do? Feel free to call me a dick but it's fun.
I turn the tables on the bums and ask them for change before they can ask me, it throws them all off guard. They usually just mumble something. I've never actually had anyone give me any change. Fucking hypocrites. :moon:
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I humoured a guy because he said "Man can you spare $0.75 so I can go get a beer?" I looked at him, gave him the change, he thanked me and I watched him walk into the bar. It made me chuckle at his honesty. It's not like I don't help the needy. A few times a year on the way to work I'll buy whomever happens to be homeless on the street by the McDonald's lunch. It's no big deal. What pisses me off are people that come of and ask for change and then get nasty, or kids that ask for change while smoking a cigarette and eating a slice of pizza while I'm still starving after working all day. OK... rant continues...
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Sep 16, 03
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I completely agree w/ this post... and working @ mcdix would be alot funner than squeegying in the freezing cold of winter. plus then you can get free food at the end of the nite too geeeze!
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Sep 16, 03
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i like how they ask for money for food but if you offer them food they get offended and usually wont take it
beggars cant be choosers
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Now I'm not saying that I like being harrased by panhandlers. What I am saying is that while drug addiction is self inflicted so are many other diseases. All the same not offering the medical services needed to treat an illness (such as drug addiction or heart attack victims) will not make our society a better place. -About 1 in 6 deaths from cardiovascular diseases is attributable to smoking. -Americans eat 33 percent of their calories as fat, increasing their risk of developing high cholesterol. -More than half of all Americans with chronic diseases don't follow their physician's medication and lifestyle guidance. http://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=107 People do all sorts of things that inadvertantly harm themselves. Education and treatment are ways that these problems can be addressed.
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Sep 16, 03
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I'm saying if you are a drug addict and don't want to reform then triple your dose so you OD and don't burden society with a health bill.
Being stricken with an ailment or disease most people want to be cured... not all drug addicts want to be cured. If I had cancer I'd go through anything to be rid of the affliction and never wish to have it come back. Most heroin addicts go through metadone treatment or other treatments yet still go back to the drug. Not the same arguement in my opinion... but my statement I made modified just a tiny bit I hold true... you CHOOSE to do something, you suffer the consequences good or bad that comes of that decision.
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If one chooses to remain a drug addict instead of making a conscious decision to go seek help which is readily available thanks to our wonderful medical system are they just lazy? What are they then? I call them an addict. Quote:
It is in my opinion that people that have a self inflicted disease, especially a life threatening one, would go out of their way to be rid of it and be cured. It is in my opinion that a drug addict does not have this mentality, that the process of being cured is not comparable to the euphoria that the drug provides. Now if this is a case of wheter or not the mind of the person in question is strong enough, if their will is strong enough, to go through all of the procedures that is a different arguement. I know that if I had an affliction and I knew I was going to die if I didn't do something about it even though it might be excruciatingly painful I would go through the treatment. I admit that I had an addiction. I was addicted to gambling for many years and lost vast amounts of money in the process, many friends and almost my family. I denied I had a problem for the longest time, my health went down due to the stress, poor diet and inhalation of smoke. At one point my nose wouldn't stop bleeding due to my sinuses being raw from smoke inhalation. I finally thought about my situation sitting at the top of Big White one day and made a decision never to place a bet on a gaming table ever again. Believe me... it is hard watching people win thousands and know I could be there. I also pity those who I watch lose as well. I don't know why and how I can still swallow the urge and not place a bet... Maybe my mind is stronger than others is my only answer. I do know that if I can make that decision others can as well. They just choose not to do so.
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Sep 16, 03
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you're a real socialist huh mc
I think its impossible for some people to take themselves out of there comfy surroundings, upbringing ect and lend some compassion to people with less fortune in their lives. The factors contributing to poverty and homelessness are innumerable and you should be pissed off at the government for not stabilizing this atrocity rather then wasting time being pissed off at some poor guy who has nothing.
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Sep 16, 03
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"Will take verbal abuse for change.." One of my most-favorite cardboard signs that I've seen so far on robson. Pan-handling and begging for change is like any business.
Beautiful downtown Vancouver, home and business to one of Vancouver's most popular and commonly found tourist attractions: The homeless. Found at every corner, on Robson street vancouver, each regular has his/her own individual traits and tactics. Working downtown, I've become desensitized to the begs and pleads of the homeless. When you get it every single day you learn to block them out and mind your own business. There's no sense in bitching them out and priding yourself in being "deviant". It's not like you're the only one to be a jerk. I think that I've memorized every single bum on robson street. Especially the regulars that loyally migrate from downtown eastside every day. I almost see it as though it's their 9 to 5 job even. I go d/t to do my business and so do they. In fact, I've taken a sort of liking towards them, as downtown is every changing but they always seem to remain constant. It would be kind of weird to not see some of the regulars all of a sudden. ->There's this one guy that stands right infront of Buffalo, has chipped teeth and whines for change non-stop "PLEEZE SIRRR CAN YOU SPAYRE SUM CHAYNGE PLEEZE MISS CAN YEW SPAYRE SUM CHAYNGE PLEEZE SIRR CAN YOU SPAYRE SUM CHAYNGE" ->Then there's the schizoid that's a bit psycho and dangerous. he's always wearin different clothes and he's always walking up and down robson. He talks to himself, and he once attacked a lady infront of JUGO JUICE and got taken away by the police. But what are THEY gonna do? Putting him in jail for a night is simply heaven to him, as there is free food free sleep and free shower. ->Then there's this broadway type old white lady with long frizzy hair who always says: "EXCUSE ME SIR CAN YEW SPARE A QUOOOTAAAAA", in that EXACT way. She used to be mainly on granville, but now has migrated up to robson street. ->Then there's this puppet wheelchair man who performs non-sensical plays infront of the new starbucks on thurlow and robson. He seems kind of "mentally challenged" and talks like it, but I've heard him talk to some one with complete fluency, so I don't know if it's just an act. ->Then there's the guy infront of Granville Skytrain station who is normally shirtless. He sits facing the exit of the station and greets every one that comes out. ->The shoeless man found close to the eaton centre PC entrance, who stands near an intersection and simply hold out a cup and leans on his cane.
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Sep 16, 03
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I am a capatalist actually.
Anyway... I am pissed off at the government for not addressing issues like these and spending money on BS issues. The suggestion that a fundraiser to rebuild the tressels in the interior made me shake my head at the stupidity of the suggestion. I see it every day as I work for the government... you know how hard it is to try and save the taxpayer a dollar?? You should come try sometime. As for lack of compassion?? I find it inexcusable that my relatives who came over from China with just their clothes can get a job that pays less than minumum wage (due to the fact they are paid cash) in Chinatown, save up and support a family and survive and a relatively healthy person can't do the same but decides to beg for change. Teenages that beg for change piss me off the most because they think they were given the bums rush and their parents were too demanding on them. I've lost everything I had twice in my life and bounced back. Don't say I had support from family and friends because I didn't. Most of them laughted when I failed but I caused the situation to end up that way so deal with it right? My upbringing?? I never had a childhood as you know of one due to the fact my parents worked 18 hour days in a grocery store just so I could have a shot at an education when I grew up. I ended up working in that store every day from age 6 and I had no idea what life was until age 19. I've worked and earned everything I have. The only charity people have given me was a home cooked meal when I was down and out and I return that favour. The one thing I am thankful for is that I was born in Canada and not somewhere else in this world. As I keep on telling people that complain about how bad their lives are that it can be a whole lot worse. As for being pissed off at some poor guy... He asks me for change, I say 'No', then he gets mad at me? Gimme a break.
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Sep 16, 03
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look at the scandanvian countries, they have perhaps the most extensive social welfare systems in the world yet they still have drug addicts, they still have homeless people, and they have an astronomically high suicide rate(due mainly to environmental conditions) i honestly believe that the government should provide atleast an adequate standard of living for everyone, but there are alot of people who are so far beyond help it dosn't matter what you do there still gonna be fuck ups... the government cant stop those junkies from putting shit in their vains or smoke in their lungs no matter how much money they throw at the problem.
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Sep 16, 03
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but guess who was responsible for that fiasco, thats right the sociallists..it was the NDP who cut funding to mental hospitals in the early 90's when they first came into power..actually there plan was to create halfway homes for them so they could function in a community setting rather then be institionalized, which is actually a pretty good plan. though the NDP are pretty much inept at everything, so they didn't have enough spaces in the facilities that they had created before they cut funding to places liek riverview and as a result alot of the mentaly ill were forced onto the street.
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Sep 16, 03
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theres is the one lady i see everytime around granville area by the skytrain station asking "DO YOU HAVE AN EXTRA QUARTER DO YOU HAVE TWENTY FIVE CENTSSSS"
god i can't stand her, she looks like the meanest crackhead oh and then, there;s the guy that doesn't blink.,...
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Sep 16, 03
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There are lots of homeless people and druggies downtown. You can't just say because of their drug problem they should just OD and get it over with. They do too many drugs, they OD, and what happens? There go the paramedics to take them away and save their lives. They take them to the hospital where it's almost like a vacation for them. They get a bed, food, shower, a roof over their head. They get all this until they are released. Sure they can get help, but it's not that simple. There are quite a few people who are out there, they do get the help and they can bounce back and recover. But there are also alot of people who continuously fuck themselves up with drugs and OD'ing just to be let into the hospital. They do this repeatedly and what do the paramedics/doctors/nurses do? Everyone goes about saving their lives while other people, with other illnesses who need the bed and need the care, don't get it. There is no easy solution. You can't just say oh fuck them all leave em to die! They don't all want that, and all some of them need is a push and some help and they can get back on track. But at the same time, you don't want to go putting all the resources into people who deliberately do the same thing because they don't want to help themselves otherwise.
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Sep 17, 03
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it's funny, people assume their's like a magic building you can go to. walk in and start the road to rehab.
if you're homeless and on drugs, you need A)find a place to stay that's away from dealers/users B)proper medical treatment C)actual rehab program. tellin them to go cold turkey isn't a solution now how can they acheive all this without money? they can't. would you hire a guy who was obviously homelss? i doubt it. so their basically in a huge hole to begin with. of course no one wants to spend tax money on 'FUCKIN DRUGGIES' so now we're at a catch 22. btw: i'm curious how 'ghetto' some of these fnkers are. although i can glady say i've never had that sorta drug problem, i've seen and lost friends to various 'hard drugs'. things look mighty different from your suburban home than on the streets. note: no i'm not hardcore, i'm just saying i've had experiences regarding that shit.
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