sexist people

[Kelster]

so my boss and co worker are questioning my dedication to becoming an electrician because i'm a girl

i realize that i will hurt myself regularly, that porto potties are dirty, that i'm in a trade with a male majority, that i'm going to get man hands and that my manicure won't last....but i can deal with all that

i respect their concern, because i would probably feel the same if i were in their shoes but i'm pretty f'ing sure that this is what i want and that i wouldn't want to waste their time...but right now they're wasting my time if they're not going to stick with me for my apprenticeship

#@(*$&#@$

[Kelster]

hah you're being sarcastic, right????

cause i'm ready to rip your head off

[yoko*]

^I hope that was a joke because sarcasm doesn't transmit very well on the interweb.

did they actually come forth and tell you that they doubted you for your sex? if so, that's pretty harsh. I understand how that would happen.. and it does... I think it's all the more reason for your to try harder and prove yourself.. for me, some one's doubt of me drives me to work harder...

[Kelster]

i don't really talk to my boss...it's hard to talk to someone you don't know over the phone, especially when he's always trying to get off the phone

but yea, my co worker told me that he told my boss i was doing a good job at this whole electrician thing but their only concern was that i'm a girl and it would really suck if i dropped it all half way through cause i can't handle it anymore...

either way, i'm already putting in the effort and i'm not the one to drop things like that...woo woot

[mugsy]

i was and still am thinkin about picking up a trade at some point, however trades can be extremely physically demanding, and well boys are built stronger then us, its mostly why i like them. some things girls really cant do. my buddy works on elevators, i know i cant pick up that trade because of the heavy shit. sometimes the sexist reasoning comes with some relivance.

[Rhianna]

It's the same in the kitchen. All my chefs are cool w/ girls being there but some of the 14 boys in my class seem to think girls can't handle it.

[Crazy_Cat_Lady]

don't give up and prove those males wrong! My sisters in army cadets and has to put up with retarded sexist males all the time, and i always tell her, stick it out, and out preform them.

There's a quote, "a woman has to work twice as hard to make it in a mans world" and it's true, but it can be done!

[mugsy]

"i dont mind living in a man's world as long as i can be a woman in it"
- marilyn munroe

^ i dont think that is true. i dont need to be better then anyone to prove myself. there isnt shit to prove anymore when it comes to womens rights, we have everything. it even comes down to the six year olds. a girl can join beavers but a boy cant join brownies. whats up with that?
there will always be assholes out there....

[-stinkay-]

i wanna join beavers....

yea i worked in a kitchen for awhile...im 5'2 or 5'3 and i was a dishwasher/prep cook... and though i could physically handle all the work and didnt care bout burning myself (which i did alot) and lifting hot oil n shit, the hardest thing was reaching shit. the boys thought it was funny when they bought me a step ladder for a welcome present...but soon a whipping cream fight happened and i ended up clean and WITHOUT the rash, thank you very much. you do hatva work harder, but when you get the respect, you deserve it. thats rewarding. werd~

[yoko*]

Originally posted by mugsy
"i dont mind living in a man's world as long as i can be a woman in it"
- marilyn munroe

^ i dont think that is true. i dont need to be better then anyone to prove myself. there isnt shit to prove anymore when it comes to womens rights, we have everything. it even comes down to the six year olds. a girl can join beavers but a boy cant join brownies. whats up with that?
there will always be assholes out there....

Rights aren't everything, and they're definately not the end of it. As this thread in itself indicates..our equality of oppurtunity may be the same as that of men, but the equality of outcome, is not.
As Attila demonstrates so perfectly well for us, there continue to be ignorant males who choose to carry on traditional beliefs about the position of women.

People tend to feel as though that a change in law means the change in the mentality of society. But the truth is, that there exists in our own gov't, racists, sexist, ablists, etc...

[mugsy]

i realize that, and believe me it pisses me off jsut as much as the next girl when i have a guy come up to me and say i cant do something cause i have ovaries.
but i am a female, and i am smaller then most guys, and they are capable of things i am not capable of. however i can bleed for 7 days and not die. *snap*

[Hot Karl]

^lol

although kelster's boss may have come across as sexist, from his point of view, he doesn't wanna train anyone guy or girl only to have them go "its too hard i quit"

this is directly affecting his time/money so i think it's a valid question. i'm sure he would ask a guy of his level of commitment before they went on with the apprenticeship.

seeing as how he 'barely' knows kelster i'm guessin he was asking a bit to see what type of girl she is, her work ethic etc etc.

but of course i could be totally wrong.

[Kelster]

Originally posted by mugsy
however i can bleed for 7 days and not die. *snap*

HAHAHAH you're too cute

but to be honest, if another female were to step into my position i would question her ability as well....i'm just shocked that my co worker said it
actually it's kinda cool he brought it up, not enough people are blunt and honest bout stuff like this and it makes me respect him even more

anyways...what i'm really chocked about is that he questioned my seriousness and dedication to this job.
he made me feel like a retard when he felt the need to remind me that porto potties are stinky, that the dirty framers like to take shits at work, that guys pee on the seat and rarely clean up, that when hammering things all day there is the chance that your finger might get hurt, and that being an electrician isn't an office job but a job that you would be up on ladders and moving all day long.
..point is that if i were a guy, i doubt he'd play that shit on me.

[Kelster]

Originally posted by Rhianna
It's the same in the kitchen. All my chefs are cool w/ girls being there but some of the 14 boys in my class seem to think girls can't handle it.

sick..and those boys must be really 'cool'

you've got a lot of attitude rhianna, and i bet you're putting those boys in their place ;)

[little_persia]

Just wanted to add something...since I got nothing better to do right now before I go to sleep....:

I totally agree with ya on the point that he was playing that : "oh its dirty and its not all lovey dovey around here" just cause your a girl...but lets face it. The MAJORITY of girls don't like these kinds of jobs and you being in this MINORITY of girls that would acutally be just as capable and dedicated (if not more) in this field he HAS to question your credibility and simply REMIND you what you are getting yourself into. After all, not all people are quick to understand and learn so they are just making sure I assume. If I was to spend my time/money on training someone in this trade....I would darn make sure that they like what they are getting into...and since you are one of the few girls in this field you have to understand his doubts about you. His confidence in you is something that you have to build and prove with him.....it doesn't just appear out of nowhere. You are maybe the first girl (I maybe wrong on that) they are training for an apprentice in this field...so its something new to them. You should just show your boss that u can be dedicated and literally you have to prove him wrong...and yes people are still stuck in the traditional beliefs of where a womans place is and all that crap (I'm not like that myself by the way). It's still a long ways before this ideology is changed about women...I mean it takes time..."rome wasn't built overnight"....*hehehe couldn't think of a better example there hehe*...I believe...every individual...inspite of race...sex...age...or whatever is capable of what they believe they can achieve....and nothing can stop you if you really want to go through with something. There is enough proof out there...., there are ppl just like you....somewhere attempting to prove something and create change for the better....so you shouldn't feel mad about him questioning you...just take it as a challenge to prove him wrong.....

-DJD_

[melody]

im just gunna say never give up no matter wut...especially when it comes to men...us girls gotta stick 2gether n show men that anything they can do we can do better

[mojo]

women are better chefs cus they r more patient

i thinks

[c.tard]

Originally posted by mugsy
however i can bleed for 7 days and not die. *snap*

haha *high five*



when i was in high school i had to put up with the whole sexism thing as well. not just from students, but teachers and counsellors as well. i was always in IT. the whole time i was told i couldn't do it, girls can't use computers! then i went and got the highest marks in class [and the entire school] and proved them all wrong. there was me and two other girls in my class, with 27 boys. :\ even the teachers thought i couldn't do it, and my counsellor told me i wasn't smart enough and it was a males area.

[zarlon]

I was the first girl to be in cub scouts in BC!

Keep with it Kelly, they can doubt you all they want but it still doesn't change the truth.

[Iokua]

Ya Cub Scouts!!!