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Jun 21, 04
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New Study about the Cost of Obesity
Did anyone read that study that came out a couple weeks ago about fatness in BC? As it turns out, fat people and their ailments cost the healthcare system more than smokers and their ailments.
Is it time that we up the taxes on fatty foods to help pay for large folk? As a thin smoker, I'd like to see the price of fries skyrocket every six months like my packs of smokes. That would be justice. 
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Jun 21, 04
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a lot of fat people disgust me. it's not fair that we have to pay for their over indulgence and laziness.
ex. one of my family members is fucking fat, actually the whole family is fat. she's on a lot of medication, she's depressed and she can't sleep at night cause her fat neck keeps chocking her throat so she can't breath or something. i'm positive a lot of her health problems which is covered by health care is due to her fattiness. she's trying to do something about it...but really, maybe if she stopped eating costco bulk kraft and got off her fat ass and did some exercise, she might see some results. smokers and druggies are just as bad. and now there are injection sites? bleh i don't want to get into this, i always end up getting in shit 
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Jun 21, 04
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Maybe if they implemented a Fat Tax they could drop the Gas and Liquor Tax. I would be a happy person then. :D
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Jun 21, 04
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hahaha.. fat tax, i like that!
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Jun 21, 04
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nah think of the gas tax as a sin tax like the shit we have on liquor and tobacco.."you pollute the air so we're gonna tax you" type of deal, and wiht that in mind gast taxes should probably be raised. suree there should be a fat tax, but there should also be an idiot tax.
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Jun 21, 04
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while i understand the premise of a 'fat tax', fat is everywhere -- So would the tax be for fast food or trans fats? Because it couldny just be for fatty foods
Now, with smoking, it's only smokers that buy the cigarettes, right? So would only fat people get charged the 'fat tax'? Cause i think most folk , fat or not, indulge in fast food -- and would the tax only be applicable to certain items (as most fast food shops are sporting a few 'healthy' alternatives) with smoking we spend years in our education systems educating children about the dangers of smoking -- do we do that with fats too? Not so much -- then we jam pack school cafeterias with doughnuts and fries, cut P.E programs and then wonder why our children are getting fatter and fatter Something bandaid like a 'fat tax'' will do little in helping our growing waistline of a population --
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Jun 22, 04
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i think nowadays kids are gettin educated more about health/proper diet. i've heard that some school offer healthy foods in their caf.
we had a subway stand in pinetree and the prices were cheaper. how i raped that stand hehe..
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Jun 22, 04
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some schools are leaning towards healthier ways, saw it on the news. a lot of elementary schools in the east provide lunch to their students once a week, or even everyday day and some of em are cutting out crap food and replacing it with healthier meals (like spaghetti, turkey hot dogs, w.w.bread). some schools are getting rid of vending machines, or taking pop out and providing juice instead. lengthing lunch hour, giving kids more time to eat. it's a start! i feel for the little kids, they don't know any better and they follow after their parents habits. but for teens and adults, it's really not hard. eating healthy is common sense, and exercising is simple...if i can do it, anybody can!
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Jun 22, 04
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I don't think injection sites were created to encourage drug use, whether it does or not it's biggest purpose (If I'm correct) is to keep as much of it off the streets as possible and keeping things sterile and clean. Dj Ponz, a person suffering from obesity, whether its "their fault" or not, is NOT funny. Grow up and get some respect, same goes for you Kelly. There are more compassionate (less cruel) ways you could have voiced that opinion.
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Jun 22, 04
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Question, do you have a very busy family to run? Homework, excessive sport practices and games allover the lower mainland and sometimes out of the country? All while dealing with numerous ailments (Diabetes, 2 forms of arthritis, chronic exhaustion, and battling depression), that yes are most likely due to a life of obesity, but also make it a million times harder to deal with and hopefully rid of them? if you haven't picked up on it yet, someone very close to me is overweight and no matter how hard we try with the money and time we have for us ALL to eat healthier, excersize is often out of the question for her because of our schedule and the fact that pain prevents her from certain every day activities, let alone the excersize she probably does need. She has been trying all her life to become thin and NOTHING has worked, so it sure as hell isn't for lack of trying. So no, it is NOT always as easy as you seem to think it is. And in this case, as in many, her being overweight has absolutely nothing to do with "over indulgence" or laziness. My mother is one of the hardest working, least selfish person I know and I am very insulted that you would support such a ridiculous stereotype. Not everyone who is overweight is that way because they sit on their ass and shovel doguhnuts in their face all day. Dj ponz, if that was sarcasm I apologize for my reaction. Last edited by MistressSpankME; Jun 22, 04 at 03:51 AM.
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Jun 22, 04
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Jun 22, 04
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Ok, I understand (but I still don't agree :P)
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Jun 22, 04
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I think if a person is obese and they want to have a better life and be healthier, they can damn well make time and make an effort. Nothing comes from nothing, you have to be practise at something to become good at it, so for some people it has to be a time consuming thing to be healthy. "Where there is a will, there is a way" And in my opinion people that have their stomach cut out so they can be thin are just as bad as the people who commit suicide because they are "tired of living". Yes, I know that opens up a whole nother can of worms, but what I'm trying to get at is (most)people are LAZY and they'd rather go and have surgery that could go horrible wrong, than modifying their day. (Not pointing fingers at your mom) I kickbox, and when I started, I was shit. I have to work my ass off to compete, and people that have a desire to be at a safe mass litterally do have to work their asses of. There is no excuse for being obese to a point where it can kill you. Unless of course you have an over active thyroid or whatever... BUT thats not the point now is it...
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Jun 22, 04
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i've got my beliefs and morals, and they tend to be harsh. i don't want to 'debate' about injection sites, we see things differently and that's that.
being fat sucks, it really does, i know this. i don't think it's funny either. there's nothing funny bout wearing plus size floral prints, taking up 2 airplane seats, being ridiculed, and having no self esteem. but it is disgusting, don't deny it. being big and all the other related effects are not attractive. there are some people that have a harder time keeping in shape then others, i'm one of them, but it is no excuse to let go and get gross. genetics, health disorders, withdrawal...there's so many excuses.
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Jun 22, 04
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who's doing the sports practices and games? what kind of arthritis does she have? what kind of food does your family eat? do you drink pop? do you eat fast food? how'd she get fat in the first place, at what age? i've always had a pretty healthy diet, and i've been active all my life but i was still a fat kid. it's easy to want something, it's harder to do it. you can spend years bitching and dreaming, but you won't see results till you do something. ps. you could probably SAVE money by eating LESS food.
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Jun 22, 04
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Oh so, now its the fact that it is unnatractive that makes it wrong?
p.s. (they aren't always excuses) Silverwinged, although you have (VERY FEW) good points, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about so I'm not even going to go there with you. Maybe I am taking it too personal though... so I'll just stop altogether because considering the intelligence (or lack there of) on this board and my slightly bias view on the subect, I highly doubt this discussion will go anywhere productive!
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Jun 22, 04
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hahhahahaha maryah i think you had the best point in this whole thread
should only fat people have to pay the extra taxes for the fatty food hahaha man fat people are gonna have to be rich people...they have to pay for two seats on an airplane.....fat taxes...if they're smokers...smoking tax....and if they can fit into a vehicle...then gas tax etc etc i think there should be a section on the tax forms that asks your weight....if you're over like 400 pounds...dude you're paying extra hahaha j/k
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Jun 22, 04
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Damnit I got sucked in again, Ok, NOW I'm done!
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Jun 22, 04
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For the record, I do not disagree that it is annoying when people complain... especially when some people do not really take action to do something about it or to prevent it from happening in the first place. But it really isn't always that easy, there's also a psychological angle to it as well.
I just figured, as a WOMAN especially, that has had to deal with her weight (and probably still does to this day) You might have a little less stereotypical view on the topic. But I guess I overestimated you, my bad.
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Jun 22, 04
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Eating organic is more expensive, but there are ways around that, for example growing your own graden, costs next to nothing when all that fresh produce sprouts up, its healthy, and last for like the whole summer. Plus when you get out there and do all the gardening work you are burning calories, and thinking less about eating. Grow a garden, it's good for you in more than one way. wake up early and walk to work, start riding bikes to work, or whatever. I went through a tough time and had no money for a while there, i couldnt drive anywhere becuase i had no money to fill my gas tank. I would walk to work which is a hour and a half walk, I would walk to school and so on and so fourth, food was minimal and i drank alot of water, I lost 10pounds in two weeks. if i can do it trust me... anyone can do it.
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Jun 22, 04
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For MistressSpankME:
Just because someone in your family is over weight doesn't mean you are the only person that has such a problem. I wasn't aiming my post as a personal attack and yeah, you are taking this way to personally. As my family battles with chronic weight problems, so quite the contradictory to your comment, I do know what I am talking about. Further more, I feel the only one who is displaying a lack of intelligence and understanding is you. Your family isn't the only one with problems, and no one was talking in a down cast manor to you or anyone in particular. I do not find my views sterotypical. I apologize if I have affronted or insulted you, as it was not my intention; but before you accuse someone of not knowing anything it would be wise to ask a question. I do not find my views sterotypical, and Last edited by Silverwinged; Jun 22, 04 at 04:51 AM.
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Jun 22, 04
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i'm not saying you guys should starve!
eat less, eat healthier! no fast food, no sweet treats, no juice, no fat free ice cream, all whole grains, no potatoes! go for walks after dinner, no tv! woot i'm !enthusiastic! just cause i'm fat and female doesn't mean i'm going to feel for your mom! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ps. organic foods aren't going to make you skinny! wooopee !!!!!!!!!! pps. send mom to ethiopia! ppps. jib?
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Jun 22, 04
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fatty fat fats.
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