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  #26 (permalink)  
Old Jan 28, 05
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I get extra IP's with Shaw?
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Old Jan 28, 05
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I get extra IP's with Shaw?
ya, you should be getting 2 at least right now. If not more. Don't know what your deal is.. lemme check.
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Old Jan 28, 05
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ya, you only get 2 with Extreme package.

Check out: http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsSer...essPackage.htm

Thats their business package, 8 dynamic IP's can be accounted for, or 1 Static. I'd go with the dynamic if you're a heavy ftp'er. :p
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Old Jan 28, 05
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if I get 2 then I wonder WTF my other IP is?

I could easily split it off to another router dedicated for the ftp.
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Old Jan 28, 05
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if I get 2 then I wonder WTF my other IP is?

I could easily split it off to another router dedicated for the ftp.
haha. Check on your account on Shaw, I'm not familiar with Shaw so duno if you'll find it there or not. Try plugging in 2 computers in a hub then straight to your uplink. Both computers will probably catch both the IP's. If not, then you have to register the other IP through Shaw, and assign it a MAC addy. I had to do this with Telus once, wasn't a problem.
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Old Jan 28, 05
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It just occured to me that regardless of how many IP I use... the bandwidth I am allocated is still the same.

Just because I have 2 ip's doesn't mean I get twice the bandwidth. But if this were true...
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Old Jan 28, 05
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It just occured to me that regardless of how many IP I use... the bandwidth I am allocated is still the same.

Just because I have 2 ip's doesn't mean I get twice the bandwidth. But if this were true...
that's right, you can have 100 ip's and still have the same quota, the bandwidth is monitored from the central server before it goes to your central node and distributed to your home, which in turn you do whatever you want with.

In order to get a second IP address, you need a second MAC address, ip's are assigned to you via the MAC address, this is why when you install a new network card: your IP changes.
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Old Jan 28, 05
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According to the tech. support at my work - it's unlikely you would use your bandwidth by your downloading alone, it's usually the uploading from you that causes the high usage.

When we see someone with high usage - we ask them to turn off file sharing so no one can upload from them.
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Old Jan 28, 05
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You don't understand how much I download ;)
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Old Jan 28, 05
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what I do..
is wait till the end of the month
then go apeshit with downloads over 5-10 days.

Then when I'm over capped, the next month goes over, and resets me back to 0.

And I dont get an email.

:D

you can also check your bandwidth usage on the shaw website I do believe, come to think of it, W.
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Old Jan 28, 05
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You must download a hell of a lot! Hope you get out of your dilema! :)
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Old Jan 28, 05
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that's right, you can have 100 ip's and still have the same quota, the bandwidth is monitored from the central server before it goes to your central node and distributed to your home, which in turn you do whatever you want with.

In order to get a second IP address, you need a second MAC address, ip's are assigned to you via the MAC address, this is why when you install a new network card: your IP changes.
I used to have a handy little app that would modify the MAC address somehow... I used it to hijack connections on my High School Counselor VAX system with it.
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Old Jan 29, 05
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I used to have a handy little app that would modify the MAC address somehow... I used it to hijack connections on my High School Counselor VAX system with it.
why would you hijack a VAX system? :070:

yeah, changemac.
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Old Jan 29, 05
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Okay here we go. As a dvdr downloader I will explain this very easy and simply.

First off Shaw HAS bandwidth limitations and you should be aware of them since you signed a contract agreeing to those bandwidth limitations.

Secondly 'Unlimited internet use' is true, but it doesnt mean UNLIMITED bandwidth, it just means you can stay connected 24.7 and use the internet as much as you want to browse but as soon as you start pumping out or receiving a lot of bandwidth then it starts to go down hill.

On Shaw I used to download about 300-400gb a month, between 0day mp3 albums/vcds/dvdrs, until they started bitching at me for abusing their servers and slowing down the network around my neighbourhood. I ignored them and continued to keep doing so, until they phoned me after 3 months of this and suspended my account for a whole month, thats when I made the switch to Telus.

So basically, dont exceed your bandwidth limitatations or switch to Telus adsl because they have bandwidth limitations but dont do anything if you exceed them, BUT ive heard they are starting to monitor your useage and will be enforcing their policy a lot more.

Checking out primus.ca ;)
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Old Jan 29, 05
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and yes you have 2 IP's, and to find out your other IP

click Start
click Run
type 'ipconfig /release' (without the ' ' of course)
type 'ipconfig /renew' (again without the ' ')

check where it says IP and see if its different, if it isnt repeat again and keep repeating those steps until it shows a new one. Sometimes you have to do it like 10 times.
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Old Jan 29, 05
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it's usually the UPLOAD that they get bitchy about.
i doubt downloading stuff is why they are contacting you.
It doesn't matter actually... to them badnwidth is bandwidth whether it be uploading or downloading. My buddy has worked for Shaw for 5 yrs or so and he's the jerkface who shuts off modems. :)

He usually calls first and talks to you though. When people give him a hard time and refuse to limit their usage he shuts them off for a week at first. After that, if they continue to give trouble they can be disconnected permanently. If you 'agree' to their terms though chances are they won't look at your account again for another 6 to 8 months and when they call you can just 'agree' to the terms again.
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Old Jan 29, 05
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They will cut you off!

Shaw cut me off of my service a month or so ago. Gave them a call, they said that the limit is 20g of bandwith either way, I was just letting my machine run in the day to get all the files I could from bit torrents so I ended up somewhere around 60g, they didn't like that, but you just tell them what they want to hear and they hook it back up...
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Old Feb 04, 05
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I just got the automated phone call requesting I contact them.

I guess I'm in trouble. :(
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Old Feb 04, 05
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just tell them you'll share all the porn you just downloaded with them
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Old Feb 04, 05
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I just got the automated phone call requesting I contact them.

I guess I'm in trouble. :(

K, I want you to just not say anything and put a timer on how long they lecture you for!
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  #46 (permalink)  
Old Feb 04, 05
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OK... the people that said that I got nailed for uploading were right.

They shut off my modem until I called them and they said I was doing 20Gb down and 40Gb up each of the last 2 months.

That makes sense since I left my search engine on overnight and I'm sure a lot of people leeched off my archives.

I guess I'll have to monitor my bandwidth now. :(
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Old Feb 04, 05
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OK... the people that said that I got nailed for uploading were right.

They shut off my modem until I called them and they said I was doing 20Gb down and 40Gb up each of the last 2 months.

That makes sense since I left my search engine on overnight and I'm sure a lot of people leeched off my archives.

I guess I'll have to monitor my bandwidth now. :(
It's the upload I knew it! Pays off to work for an highspeed internet company. Either way, you just have to make sure that people are not constantly uploading from you. It gets you every time :)
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Old Feb 05, 05
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When I was with delta cable when high speed internet was just comming out they had a 2gb download limit. I went over by about 8 gigs and they tried charging me 5 dollars for every gb I went over.

If you just talk to them and say, "oh I left kazza on and went out of the house" they tend not to care.

I never had a lecture, but I did lecture the guys who called me about how a 2gb download limit was just plain stupid.
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