people who think they know more then you

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by Custard

The people who think they know it all, really annoy the people that do.

*cough*some*cough*fnk*cough*members**cou gh*

[mugsy]

Originally Posted by Antenna_Boy

Dude, art is an endless talent. Everyone has different views. That is why there are some artists that have real fucked up ideas and THEY claim that their belief is the correct one. However, if you show your belief through your art, and gain respect and hopefully money for it, I'd say your opinion is very valid and there is not point in arguing with anybody about it. So as long as you hold your own brush, THEN use it. :)

i agree. i should have explained better. i love having heart filled debates about art, however, i dont enjoy conversations with people who have no idea about art, and make really stupid comments about something they dont understand at al. the guys opinion wasnt directed towards my own art, it was a general comment on art, one that i really couldnt let fly.

[*K*i*t*t*e*n*]

Originally Posted by mugsy

about something that you are indeed very passionate and knowlegable on.
so buddy at work thinks he knows more about art then me, thinks he can show me up, and believes that because im a painter, i dont know anything about modern art production or its variables.
what the fuck.
i just had a 45 minute debate about it.
buddy, i know art, i live art, sometimes i fucking eat art. i sleep with my sketchbook at night so if i have an idea i can put it in right away. i research not only what is mandatory but what is not. ive been studying art for 4 years on my own, doing basic reasearch and viewing. ive been in school now for it for 2 years....... holy fuck.
im so pissed off right now, i had to leave before i fucking hit him.

ohh my friends like that, he has to be right even if youre a million percent sure you know it better then he does... but whatevs everyones got thier flaws... its just annoying

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by mugsy

i agree. i should have explained better. i love having heart filled debates about art, however, i dont enjoy conversations with people who have no idea about art, and make really stupid comments about something they dont understand at al. the guys opinion wasnt directed towards my own art, it was a general comment on art, one that i really couldnt let fly.

then instead of arguing, you should have dipped your brush into some black paint and drew a big moustache underneath his nose :) hahahahahaha :)

[ty_guy]

me and a friend were talking about cars, like we normally do and i had just gotten off work exp. and he was talking some stuff about water pumps (ironicly enough i had spent about 3 hours remvoing, fixing and replacing one earlier in the day) and when he said something that was wrong, i politely corrected him and then he goes and flat out calls me wrong. now ..... if you really want to esclate a conversation extremly quickly with me, that is how you do it. accusing someone of being flat out wrong is just asking for everything to turn ugly. that little remark striked a good hour and a half argument with me ending up being right pissed off and lost my temper a "little":296: i don't like being all fired up, takes too much energy.

thus accusations should be avoided

[Mr.Wrong]

-people who think they know everything about everything and will spit out bullshit just so they can say theyre right
gotten to the point where i dismiss EVERYTHING some people say cause theyve guaranteed me facts that turned out to be fiction


the phrase "i dont know" is a sin.

[Mr.Wrong]

Originally Posted by ty_guy

me and a friend were talking about cars, like we normally do and i had just gotten off work exp. and he was talking some stuff about water pumps (ironicly enough i had spent about 3 hours remvoing, fixing and replacing one earlier in the day) and when he said something that was wrong, i politely corrected him and then he goes and flat out calls me wrong. now ..... if you really want to esclate a conversation extremly quickly with me, that is how you do it. accusing someone of being flat out wrong is just asking for everything to turn ugly. that little remark striked a good hour and a half argument with me ending up being right pissed off and lost my temper a "little":296: i don't like being all fired up, takes too much energy.

thus accusations should be avoided

fight him.

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by Mr.Wrong

the phrase "i dont know" is a sin.

I would rather hear the phrase "I don't know" than a bullshit answer. If you don't know, YOU DON'T KNOW!!!! Simple as that and nothing wrong with it. Just don't bullshit and make yourself look like an idiot. The last thing the world needs are bullshitters :338:

[Mr.Wrong]

^yea who wouldnt, nobody likes being fed bullshit

"nothing wrong with not knowing something??? but knowing stuff is my thing man...MY THING!..... i think i need a new gimmick"

[thebobman]

man, I shoulda caught this thread sooner:

1. Art is Personal Taste: That guy is an asshole for trying to say he knows more about you on with the technicalities of art. His taste might be different, but techniques are fact.
2. Art Reflect Society: Current western society is very, very much style over substance now. I'm not generalizing and saying that today's art is all like that, I'm just saying the MAJORITY of what's out there (the asthetic pieces) are a reflection of our society. In earlier times art wasn't as wide spread or common because society didn't allow for people to spend time on art, those that could spend time on it were paid to do so to complete the works that we see today. When people started to have time to do art purely for arts sake, and not the pay of a Lord or Duke, art changed dramatically to be more style than substance.
Aesthetics of a piece of art have a lot to do with what makes modern art tick. If the Mona Lisa was just a photo-portrait of a woman, it wouldn't have the impact of the painted piece. Classical art of the type that wum refers to was created in a time where there was no photography, so the majority of pieces comissioned were of famous events or past events that the artists' employer would like to display. Frequently these were events that were of personal pride to the employer. For instance the Catholic Church, which was hugely wealthy at the time and continues to be, comissioned the Sistine Chapel depicting God reaching out for Adam rather than clocks melting on a surreal landscape.
3. An Artists Tools Are Only As Good As the Artist: Computers don't make art less challanging. They make basic drawing simpler, of course, but creating something that's impressive using Photoshop requires just as much time, energy and focus as creating something on a canvas.

And that's all I gotta say about that.