Renting equiptment from Tom Lee

[firestar]

Holy shit! What a joke.

So I go in looking to rent a mixer as my old one died a horrible death and I wanted to try a few out.

Guy gives me the form to fill out.. no problem..

Wait.. Social Insurance number? Employment information? The guy behind the counter even says "Yeah, next I'll have to ask you for a blood sample" heh.

Anyways, very hesistantly I fill it out, except the SIN, fuck that. Okay, the guy gives me the paperwork and says, okay, you'll be going up to the 2nd floor, the girl there will approve you. Approve me? I'm renting for fuck sakes!

SO I get up there, this women PULLS my credit. WTF! Says, how much do you have available on your credit card. I'm like, $200 maybe? No, they need $1200 available on your credit card, and, my credit history didn't match their requirements! W. T. F. My history ain't that bad, and $1200 available? Keep in mind, I'm not buying this thing, just renting it for a week!

I'm like, forget it.

Phone up Long & Mcquade. Drive over, give them my name and address, give em my CC so they can keep it on file, fair enough, drop a $200 deposit, and I am the proud owner of a Allen & Heath xone 32 for a MONTH for the same price as Tom lee charged for a week.

Seriously WHAT A JOKE! If you need to rent anything, go to Long & McQuade.

[beedub]

The thing to do is get pre-approved on the credit card and whatever by Tom Lee a few days before renting anything. That's what they told me & that's what I did, then I went in & rented some stuff no problem, no deposit, and the price was reasonable. No L&M in my area or I would like to try try them too.

BTW what's the cost for a mixer for a month?

[Tayfoon]

I always use Long&Mcquade

[dj_soo]

L&M > Tom Lee in just about every possible way

[nabs]

LnM very good.

[Revolver]

LM is the shit. although the guys in the digital department at tom lee DT are pretty good to me over the years, and i used to be in there like 2-4 times a week a few years ago....just ask rob for a set of phones and id tinker for a few hours no sweat.

i did finiance a mackie universal control from Tom lee DT....that was ok.

As far as rentals ive only rented and WILL only rent from LM....

and yeah man how much was that mixer for the month?

[firestar]

Originally Posted by Revolver

LM is the shit. although the guys in the digital department at tom lee DT are pretty good to me over the years, and i used to be in there like 2-4 times a week a few years ago....just ask rob for a set of phones and id tinker for a few hours no sweat.

i did finiance a mackie universal control from Tom lee DT....that was ok.

As far as rentals ive only rented and WILL only rent from LM....

and yeah man how much was that mixer for the month?

Allen & Heath Xone32 3 channel, $60/month.

[dabbler]

just don't keep the equipment you rent. tom lee will only pursue you legally. L&M send people to your house. no joke.

[Vitamin-X]

No doubt.

Too many companies these days seem to feel that by patronizing their establishment you are now obligated to give them all sorts of personal information. ie phone #'s address ect.
Seriously are they doing "you" the favor by selling you their product?

I'm sick of fighting with the guy in the london drugs computer department over whether he can have my phone number and address because I'm buying something.

[Wood]

huh, i didn't think Tom Lee even did rentals on DJ gear. Must be a new thing. Tom Lee is a much smaller & newer company than L&M, could be their insurance doesn't cover them as well for theft & damage.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by Vitamin-X

No doubt.

Too many companies these days seem to feel that by patronizing their establishment you are now obligated to give them all sorts of personal information. ie phone #'s address ect.
Seriously are they doing "you" the favor by selling you their product?

well he was talking about a RENTAL though, you can't expect a company to just let you walk out the door with their product with no background info, and expect you to return it on the honor system.

[Wood]

btw, the xone 32 is a huge piece of crap. sorry, just felt i had to add that. carry on.

[Ms.Tarantula]

Originally Posted by firestar

Holy shit! What a joke.

So I go in looking to rent a mixer as my old one died a horrible death and I wanted to try a few out.

Guy gives me the form to fill out.. no problem..

Wait.. Social Insurance number? Employment information? The guy behind the counter even says "Yeah, next I'll have to ask you for a blood sample" heh.

Anyways, very hesistantly I fill it out, except the SIN, fuck that. Okay, the guy gives me the paperwork and says, okay, you'll be going up to the 2nd floor, the girl there will approve you. Approve me? I'm renting for fuck sakes!

SO I get up there, this women PULLS my credit. WTF! Says, how much do you have available on your credit card. I'm like, $200 maybe? No, they need $1200 available on your credit card, and, my credit history didn't match their requirements! W. T. F. My history ain't that bad, and $1200 available? Keep in mind, I'm not buying this thing, just renting it for a week!

I'm like, forget it.

Phone up Long & Mcquade. Drive over, give them my name and address, give em my CC so they can keep it on file, fair enough, drop a $200 deposit, and I am the proud owner of a Allen & Heath xone 32 for a MONTH for the same price as Tom lee charged for a week.

Seriously WHAT A JOKE! If you need to rent anything, go to Long & McQuade.

WHUT!! THATS BULLSHIT!! Idd be so so so mad if I were you!

[Leviathan]

If you get the chance see if you can get your hands on an ecler Nuo4, I just picked one of these bad boys up and I'm in love.

[firestar]

Originally Posted by Wood

btw, the xone 32 is a huge piece of crap. sorry, just felt i had to add that. carry on.

Why would you say that? Sound quality on those Allen & Heath mixers is top notch, best in the business.. No bells and whistles and garbage. Was really looking for the 4 channel, but they didn't have one. I'm pretty impressed. I've used a bunch too, djm600, nuo4, etc. Sure those have effects and shit, but the sound quality of this thing blows those two out of the water.

[Leviathan]

Nuo 4 doesn't have any effects, just midi control. I'd say the eclers have way better sound quality than the 600 and probably about the same as the Heath.

EDIT: on a side note I was orginally going to buy the xone :32 or 62 but I really wanted the midi control :)

[dj_soo]

I hate A&Hs too - sound is good but i'd rather have a Rane. The construction of the knobs, the faders, and the layout is sorely lacking for what I want out of a mixer. From what I've heard, sound really isn't that much better than an Ecler (if at all)

I know a lot of people love a&hs but for the life of me, i still can't figure out why.

[Wood]

yeah i just don't like the design of the a&h mixers, i don't think they consulted any DJs in the process. I had the xone 16 briefly, wtf is up with the gain knobs on the back of the mixer? hi & lo mid eq's (on the 32) are totally exraneous, and no fader curves makes them useless for any kind of hip hop techniques. i traded mine in on a rane empath which sounds just as good or better to my ear.

[dj_soo]

I've also seen the x-fader knob on the xone 62 break on 3 seperate mixers on 3 seperate occasions (and these were just simple mix-djs using the faders).

like the actual metal stem snapped right off on all 3 occasions.

[dabbler]

Originally Posted by Wood

huh, i didn't think Tom Lee even did rentals on DJ gear. Must be a new thing. Tom Lee is a much smaller & newer company than L&M, could be their insurance doesn't cover them as well for theft & damage.

tom lee's insurance is obviously much better, since they don't send thugs after you.

[firestar]

Originally Posted by Wood

yeah i just don't like the design of the a&h mixers, i don't think they consulted any DJs in the process. I had the xone 16 briefly, wtf is up with the gain knobs on the back of the mixer? hi & lo mid eq's (on the 32) are totally exraneous, and no fader curves makes them useless for any kind of hip hop techniques. i traded mine in on a rane empath which sounds just as good or better to my ear.

I'll give you that. The contruction of this thing is a.. bit weird. Hoakey even. Gains and the back and all. It's a bit cheesy/cheap feeling too, anyways, just testing a few out until I find one that's perfect for what i'm doing..

I mean, is there that perfect mixer though? Good sound, good build, all the knobs in the right places, decent fx (if any).. Lemme know because I'm pretty much done with this Allen and Heath and need to try something else.

I think renting 3 or 4 to find which one works best for me is a good idea, no?

[Leviathan]

^no doubt, buying something your not happy with will end up being alot more $$$ in the long run.

I'm one to talk though, I bought the nuo4 without testing it strictly because it was the only mixer I could afford that had the midi control I wanted.

[dj_soo]

I mean, is there that perfect mixer though?

Rane ttm57 :)

or if you don't care for serato,

Rane ttm56 + Pioneer EFX-1000

[Wood]

The Urei 1601E... played on one of these recently and found it quite nice, a fair bit cheaper than the empath also. Soundcraft are pretty much untouchable where studio consoles are concerned... so you'd have to think their DJ products would be of similar quality.

http://www.soundcraft.com/product_sh...product_id=139

i didn't get to trying the fx or sampler, but it felt nice & had all the neccessary functions.