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Old Jul 22, 06
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israelis

Arrogant,self absorbed, war mongering agressive people.

alot of israelis travel in south america. i mean ALOT. its like the thing to do when your out of the army. one of the things that really struck me about SA last year.

sometimes i will meet a very cool,level headed progressive thinking israeli. but this is a exception.

ive been doing some major conversational probing down here and the overwhelming majority: support the war in iraq,support george bush, enjoy the killing palistinians,lebanese,egyptians,syrians, and beleive that they are gods chosen people and can absolutly do no wrong.

they are all fucking insane and israel,along with the united states are about to start WW3. Zionism is about to kung foo grip the world and thats going to wake up the east, russia,china,korea.

all of these people that i talk to want this. they want to consolodate ALL power to US/Israeli control through war.

its really, reeeeeaaallyy fucking scary if you ask me. cause its all really happeing right now.

strong thoughts i know....but the things i hear down here and the things they talk about and beleive. i cant help but draw this conclusion and its one that i share with many MANY others.

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Old Jul 22, 06
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everyone I know who has been to South America has said the same types of things about Israelis. What would you be like fresh out of compulsory military service in a country flooded with those ideals?

I only met one in Australia and he was pretty cool.

*cue the angry Israelis and others...
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Old Jul 22, 06
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I'm jealous of you. You're surrounded by an entirely different political view of the world from Canada's beliefs, and you get to witness first hand how this war is affecting the rest of the world.
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everyone I know who has been to South America has said the same types of things about Israelis. What would you be like fresh out of compulsory military service in a country flooded with those ideals?

I only met one in Australia and he was pretty cool.

*cue the angry Israelis and others...
jessica one guy said to me with alot of pride that the isralie army and government turns you into a robot for zion. he was very proud of this. he went on to say with great pride how hes kiled 11 palistinians for throwing rocks at his commanders feild post, that he beleives bush is a visionary. that if a palistinian was sitting right here that he would enjoy killing him.

"its a great adrenilane rush" he said.

all of his buddies and a pack of girls agreed with enthusiasm.

and god help you if you say something like "well why cant you live together and share the land?...their religion started there as well."....i have never seen such fury and hatred when i asked that.

i could go on and on and on

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Old Jul 22, 06
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I think I am going to go throw up now.
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Old Jul 22, 06
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jessica one guy said to me with alot of pride that the isralie army and government turns you into a robot for zion. he was very proud of this. he went on to say with great pride how hes kiled 11 palistinians for throwing rocks at his commanders feild post, that he beleives bush is a visionary. that if a palistinian was sitting right here that he would enjoy killing him.

"its a great adrenilane rush" he said.

all of his buddies and a pack of girls agreed with enthusiasm.

and god help you if you say something like "well why cant you live together and share the land?...their religion started there as well."....i have never seen such fury and hatred when i asked that.

i could go on and on and on
You know.. I try to be open minded and accept the fact that every culture grows up with different ideals and standards, in different environments and situations.. but I just cannot willingly accept the fact that one from ANY culture should have reason to kill another human being just because they're, say Palastinian.

And the fact that it's a religious matter makes me sick.
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Old Jul 22, 06
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It's such a political mess. Funny enough its probly at fault of the UN. They really have to figure out something thats fair for both ppl's or else this problem is only going to get bigger and bigger.

In a way I can see the point of view from both ppl. I also wouldnt be surprised if the Israli government educates their ppl the way the US does by making them over patriotic.

The way you discribe the Isralies you met during yoru travels sounds allot like the Americans I met in Australia. However there still are a few open minded ones. One american admited that their told non stop that their the best country in the world, their tot that their the greatest, their tot that you always have to be the best etc... Im sure its probly allot alike in Isreal.

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yeah its too bad cause there are some really good hearted israelis....but the vast,overwhelming majority i simply can not stand. time and time again they are considered to be worse then americans by backpackers from other countrys.

i thank the lord every damn day im canadain :)

i feel sorry for them. alot of it is due to their hideous,dispicable government. theve been playing the victim card for too long.

uggh its such a god awful mess....
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Old Jul 23, 06
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uggh its such a god awful mess....
my exact thoughts everytime someone brings up the middle east.
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Old Jul 23, 06
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Theres good and bad in every race, but there is only bad in religious fanatics.
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Old Jul 23, 06
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Theres good and bad in every race, but there is only bad in religious fanatics.
quoted for fuckin truth! couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old Jul 24, 06
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Theres good and bad in every race, but there is only bad in religious fanatics.
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You must spread some Karma around before giving it to $userinfo[username] again. <-- nice
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Old Jul 24, 06
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A bit off topic..But man can thewy have come out with some crasy ass Psy Trance for the world thoe..without them id have nothing to play for the masses..They may have different out look on life in general..but they love their trance..I guess no matter where you go on earth andwho you talk too Music is the only constent..and if thats waht makes peace..than so be it.
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Old Jul 24, 06
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'Patriotism and it's less attractive cousin Nationalism' are the modern pillage of humanity. Everyone is backed by varying doctrines, ideals, labels and faiths.

Saying that, i did meet an israeli and a jewish guy from LA and the ends of the spectrum at which they sat were incredible. I could describe it but not here.
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Old Jul 24, 06
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heh I live with an Israeli and work with a Palestinian... interesting comparing the thoughts that both of them have on the situation.
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Old Jul 24, 06
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I went to elementary school with an Israeli dude once. He had clammy hands and smelled like cat pee all the time, although I'm sure that had more to do with his personal hygeine than the fact that he was Israeli.
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Old Jul 24, 06
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heh I live with an Israeli and work with a Palestinian... interesting comparing the thoughts that both of them have on the situation.
Do tell.
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^ You can almost guess what the difference is.
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Whos got more rage. ^
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Both of them are pretty calm about it actually. lol
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^ o rly. thats kinda weird isnt it?
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Old Jul 24, 06
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if you knew our roommate, it would make total sense. trust me.
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. I could describe it but not here.
lols......
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Old Jul 25, 06
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Arrogant,self absorbed, war mongering agressive people.

alot of israelis travel in south america. i mean ALOT. its like the thing to do when your out of the army. one of the things that really struck me about SA last year.

sometimes i will meet a very cool,level headed progressive thinking israeli. but this is a exception.

ive been doing some major conversational probing down here and the overwhelming majority: support the war in iraq,support george bush, enjoy the killing palistinians,lebanese,egyptians,syrians, and beleive that they are gods chosen people and can absolutly do no wrong.

they are all fucking insane and israel,along with the united states are about to start WW3. Zionism is about to kung foo grip the world and thats going to wake up the east, russia,china,korea.

all of these people that i talk to want this. they want to consolodate ALL power to US/Israeli control through war.

its really, reeeeeaaallyy fucking scary if you ask me. cause its all really happeing right now.

strong thoughts i know....but the things i hear down here and the things they talk about and beleive. i cant help but draw this conclusion and its one that i share with many MANY others.
I vaguely remember you jumping on me for similiar sentiment when I first came on this board. I turned around and called you a zionist.

I made a comment about agreeing with the president of Irans sentiment about the Israeli governmental apparatus being wiped of the planet. (What he really said was "erased from time")

But I find it trully hypocritcal that some on this board could critisize Israeli nationalism but be ok with Canadian Nationalism? Citizens in this country have and are being manipulated by the government against Indigenous peoples just as people in Israel are being manipulated against Palestinian peoples.
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Old Jul 25, 06
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Citizens in this country have and are being manipulated by the government against Indigenous peoples just as people in Israel are being manipulated against Palestinian peoples.
ok, thats a bit of an unfair stretch!
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