is tiesto a god?

haha, all I see is nerdy classifications and definations coming from a bunch of pseudo-experts.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by Séguin

The whole idea behind producing edm, is you don't actually have to know anything about music to make it.

that's hardly 'the whole idea', it's just a side effect of the technology becoming more accessible. it's not really anything new either - look at punk rock. tell me how much any of it's innovators knew about music theory.

your definition assumes that anyone educated in music would automatically choose a 'real' instrument over creating music electronically. wrong!

many of my favorite electronic producers are trained instrumentalists who also have finely honed production skills. and many other of my favorite producers are just guys like me who have little or no background in music theory, may not even be trained in studio technique, but know how to turn out a banging tune for the dancefloor. at any rate, as long as the desired result is being achived, it's hard to imagine any of these people really caring whether or not you think they are a real musician.

[inside]

^ Nail on the head, just smashed!

I think Tiesto should be censored on fnk like clownstep on DOA. It would be knda funny....

[ppcock]

his tracks are unique and have set the bar for the genre many times.

cant say the same thing about dnb or mashup.
Still love both genres to pieces, but i never hear anything new.

[dj_soo]

ugh - i can't stand mashup... it's not even a "genre"

[ppcock]

if super christian emo core can be a genre, so can mashup.

[dj_soo]

the notion of "mashup" used to be just taking two songs and er... mixing them.

Nowadays it's about taking two shitty songs and mixing them together in ableton.

[Séguin]

^ I'll second that

[Wood]

Originally Posted by ppcock

his tracks are unique and have set the bar for the genre many times.

cant say the same thing about dnb or mashup.
Still love both genres to pieces, but i never hear anything new.

i'm honestly not at all sure what you're saying here marty... you mean Tiesto has never set the bar for dnb or mashup? or nobody has?

Andy C is the Tiesto of DnB.... and i guess Z Trip is the Tiesto of really good DJing, 'mashup' not being a genre

but really, c'mon... even from a fan's p.o.v. it can't be that hard to see what offends people about this guy... even if i liked his horrible eurotrash anthem music i'd be put off by the utter pomposity of his live presence. not that that singles him out in any way, i feel the same way about almost every euro-trance DJ i've witnessed. i just seems to go with the territory which is probably why i despise the entire genre. DnB, as rave genres go, i find more appealing because in most cases you have DJ & an MC just going for it, really putting all their energy into the mixing & spitting, feeding off the crowd & giving back as much raw energy as their getting from them. Not this idea that waving your hands in the air like an orchestra conductor on quaaludes for 6 minutes between changing records somehow constitutes a performance. but that's only my opinion, to each their own... but anyone thinks this guy is a god, my opinion is that you're a moron.

[dj_soo]

^ striking a jesus christ pose for 5 minutes in between mixing really works your deltoids and upper lats.

certainly well worth the $10k+ it costs to have these guys perform.

[Wood]

some dude in the shop the other day was trying to tell Rob & I that we were going to be out of work as DJs soon, because once the Benny Benassi music takes over there'll be no more clubs playing funk & hip hop. Apparently it's already happened in Montreal, according to him you'd have to search far & wide to find a club there that plays anything other than Benny Benassi.

LOL

[Roxxie]

^^^ oh god....

Whoever thinks tiesto is a god is just damn stupid!!! the guy was good a few years ago now his music just puts me to sleep.....

[ppcock]

they've gotta be doing something right to get $10K per party.

[Roxxie]

^^ its all marketing...and the fact that they put out probably like 4 good tracks......other than that most dj's are just overrated like tiesto...i would never pay so much to see that guy spin......

[Wood]

^marketing themselves to people with too much money & not enough brain cells was definitely a smart move

ed: outposted.

[Roxxie]

hahaha

[ppcock]

well, i personally like the underground stuff. I would never pay money to see well known dj's, except for maybe kai tracid.

[Wood]

i know Marty, you have good taste... you should come hang out next time Tiesto tix go on sale, check out the collection of humans that brings out. nothing but laughs, i swear.

[ppcock]

let me know

i'll bring the beer!

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by ppcock

speaking of prodigy
liam howlett, now that's a god.

Eh.

Last album bit the big one.

Liam Howlett was a God. Chemical Brothers picked up where he left off.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Junglist

haha, all I see is nerdy classifications and definations coming from a bunch of pseudo-experts.

Now go and copy and paste this into every thread on the forum.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Wood

i know Marty, you have good taste... you should come hang out next time Tiesto tix go on sale, check out the collection of humans that brings out. nothing but laughs, i swear.

I know like three tiesto fans and they're all exactly the same.

If you want to see eleventy billion of them check out tranceaddict.

"trance cracker" isn't an insult, it's a freaking observation.

[ebbomega]

And one last post and then I'll shut up.

This whole thread is actually 5 years old. Just replace "Tiesto" with "Paul Oakenfold" and watch the similarities just fall into place.

In fact, pick any time period and replace "Tiesto" with whoever Mixmag names as #1 dj of the year and you'll have basically the same argument amongst the same people....

[anewlife]

no, he's not.

you can close this thread now.

kthxbye.

[thechix0r]

Originally Posted by ppcock

if super christian emo core can be a genre, so can mashup.

These days any kind of music can be a genre

I saw "New Age" In Music world not too long ago... whatever the hell new age is