*This* is the direction Ableton artists should be going

[dj_soo]

http://www.realtablist.com/clips/ableton_set_02.MOV

really impressive stuff. I'd rather see someone create tracks and sets like this than seeing some guy hunched over a laptop triggering loops or even worse... "DJing" with Ableton...

Reminds me a bit of what DJ Radar was doing years ago (although he didn't have the luxary of using ableton and needed to custom build his stuff).

[Mangle]

That is fuckin' dope. Pretty sick scratching too.

[-evil-duerr-]

ableton is such a fantastic program.

[C_squared]

yeah that was pretty ill... reminds me of that vid that was posted here of that beatbox dude (his name escapes me atm) but he had the same concept of looping the instruments he spat into the mic and triggering the sequences with foot pedals. All thru ableton of course.

[FeelGood]

go ableton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kWRFwZPRuw

[tiedye]

Thanks... I just finished my first ableton mix and was starting to feel like I was getting the hang of the program.. jackass. =)

At least now I have something to aspire to.

[Revolver]

my god......

that was pretty neat. so mechanical and co-ordinated.

guy has skill.

but,deep down, id rather watch jimmy page drunkenly slop about on a guitar.

[tiedye]

^^
amen.

[dabbler]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

I'd rather see someone create tracks and sets like this than seeing some guy hunched over a laptop triggering loops or even worse... "DJing" with Ableton...

there's a dj at my work that doesn't know how to beatmatch. he uses ableton, and when asked to tag with someone he told them "sure, but i can't mix in" :0

[tiedye]

I'm finding that not all tracks match perfectly in Ableton.. if the track doesn't start immediately in the first beat, then you have to do some manual editing. Other then that, not having to match is the one thing I don't like about it. I'm still working on my beatmatching whenever I get a chance though. The idea of going digital and not actually being able to spin just doesn't seem right.

[mux]

I don't think there's one direction that 'Ableton artists' should go in.

I think it's like Photoshop - just a powerful tool with a tonne of possibilities, and like any tool it won't do anything for you if you don't have a clear idea of just where you want to go with it.

We call folks that work with Photoshop "digital artists", not "Photoshop artists". :)

[tiedye]

Oh hey, are you running Ableton with your Live PA equipment, mux?

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by mux

I don't think there's one direction that 'Ableton artists' should go in.

I think it's like Photoshop - just a powerful tool with a tonne of possibilities, and like any tool it won't do anything for you if you don't have a clear idea of just where you want to go with it.

We call folks that work with Photoshop "digital artists", not "Photoshop artists". :)

You're right. This is just something i'd prefer to see in a performance than the "typical" laptop performance i usually see (ie checking email)

[mux]

tiedie: yep, using it to replace the old mixer flightcase... tho the "laptop" is a smokin' fast home-built 1U rackmount PC, and I've configured Ableton to the point that I don't need a monitor on stage, just my BCF2000 MIDI controller. :)

Soo: wholeheartedly agreed, it's all about stage presence. Same way I don't want to watch a metal concert where everyone is sitting.. ;)

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by mux

tiedie: yep, using it to replace the old mixer flightcase... tho the "laptop" is a smokin' fast home-built 1U rackmount PC, and I've configured Ableton to the point that I don't need a monitor on stage, just my BCF2000 MIDI controller. :)

This I've got to see. Hopefully you're playing out sometime in late Feb when I visit. I'd love to check out the equipment in action.

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by C_squared

yeah that was pretty ill... reminds me of that vid that was posted here of that beatbox dude (his name escapes me atm) but he had the same concept of looping the instruments he spat into the mic and triggering the sequences with foot pedals. All thru ableton of course.

you're thinking of Kid Beyond.

DJ Radar was still the first to innovate the idea of live looping in a dj context i think...

[Goodfellow]

that's illlllllll !

I eventually want a setup exactly like that, just need the tables. maybe i'll collab with a homie and do somethin like that.

[dj_soo]

DJ Radar demo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HKURuH5tiI

Keep in mind this was a couple years before Live was widely available to the general public.

[Senior]

Originally Posted by Revolver

my god......

that was pretty neat. so mechanical and co-ordinated.

guy has skill.

but,deep down, id rather watch jimmy page drunkenly slop about on a guitar.

Some day someone will say the same thing about turntables I'm sure.

Nice find Terrence!