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Jul 18, 02
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Lots of music nowadays has been geared towards the club scene now.. Look at whats big in Europe still.. 2-Step... All drunkin cheese ball beats.. ITs mostly hiphop and r&b remix tracks that are a bit more uptempo.. Plus disco house is going on strong at the moment.. I think since the "rave" fad is over, most music is getting geared towards the drunkin party scene and less towards the tripped out druggy beats..
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Jul 18, 02
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What are the many others? Other than having a Jungle stage or party to headline on, they never take over the main room. If u want u your jungle fix get out to the clubs, that's were the vibe is at(unless your underage). And I think that promotors wouldn't lose money if they put any style of music in the mainroom. They just have to do a harder job at promoting it and educating people. Lack of knowledge of different type of music with your average/below average party goer ( My gfriend and her friends didn't even know who Eric Morrilo is! Not that they have to know that he was the producer 4 real2real, but just his name and style would be nice). This lack of knowledge is because of the shit radio we have here, and because of this lack of knowlege, when someone like Eric Morrilo gets booked and no one shows cause they have never heard of him, the promotor is going to say fuck it, were just going to have to book Jon the Dentist again cause The Dumb ass people of Van who buy the majority of tickets don't know thier tunes. PS Shit radio- 94.5, it was supposed to be cutting edge urban music when it plays really shitty mainstream rap and r&b. I know u have to please the sponsors and the Stupids, but where the hell is the U.K. Garage(I hate that shit), and the Jungle? That's urban music isn't it?
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Jul 18, 02
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Jul 18, 02
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as of now, i can only think of party off the top of my head where there were jungle dj's in the main room, and it was at come together 3 (?). it had freaky flow on the main stage, and 2 other jungle dj's before him on the stage (matty and someone else i think) and honestly, most people probably arent going to care what kind of music thats spinning in the main room as long as they're peaking on their 2nd cap of e john 2899131 john 2899131
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Jul 18, 02
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Jul 19, 02
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Disco house funky house I love this stuff and I think it is gona get rely big. Also read the thread about making a Pirate Radio in Vancouver I think this would help attract a lot of new people and just be rely cool to have.
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Jul 19, 02
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I agree that the rave scene is basically "working itself out of a job." To much hype has scared the people who actually run things around here, govn't, owners, police etc. Ravers are growing up and electronica is moving into the clubs. There will always be undeground parties only know about through word-of-mouth, but I also agree that we'll be seeing more 2-room bars with hip-hop in one side and electronica in the other. Just look at the styles of music which are now popular in the UK (where raves originated): R&B remixes, 2-step, house... It's not geared to people high on god knows how many drugs.
If you love it, you'll always at least enjoy it; if you don't, get out while you can! - Jules Verdict d:}
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Jul 19, 02
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Interesting thread...first of all it's great that you are all looking forward and searching for something new, this is a thing I love about B.C. the people there seem to have a nack for creativity and something interestingly different.
Here in Europe the scene is extremely split between all kinds of different genres, and it is impossible to say which one is dominant, although as stated previously in this post the sound of drug fuelled beats is becoming less a priority and people are opening their ears and minds to more interesting beat structures and musicality. I actually replied to this post because I have a vision/dream that I am going to try and make happen in ibiza, it's not going to happen overnight or be easy, as good things with longevity never are or do, and I am extremely interested in bringing this concept to my other favourite place in the world...VanCity. Wish I could discuss it here but it'll have to wait till I meet DJform in ibiza, as there seems too be to many other promoters here and this idea is very original and I have 100% faith and belief in it. Anyways as for the future of music globally here in the UK + ibiza countries of South America, as in Brazil, Argentina, Columbia, Peru (christ think of how much talent must be out there!!!) are starting to have a significant impact on all different types of 'dance' music, from chill to house, to hip hop to UK garage...anyone heard any Brazilian Electro yet?....you should it's nice :) So that's about it, the only significant thing I can see is the south american thing blowing up atm but the scope and resources is immense and is going to be around for a looooong time. Watch out for something interesting maybe in 2003 sometime with DJform's name on the flyer.....hasta luego.
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Jul 20, 02
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okie, here goes
there were the times when it was all about the underground. I was not around in those times, but i've met dj's from back then. The majority of the crowd were elders and they understood what house, breaks, DnB was about. They knew there was more to music than what they heard. Maybe legalities is what changed things, turning raves mainstream, "in-fashion" type of thing. Parties got huge, marketing and promotions was the way to win your crowd over and make the money. They got bigger and bigger and soon enough everybody wanted to go. A rave became your typical thing to do on the weekend. Get high, fukked in some way or other, dance the night away... hang out. Every party, younger and younger kids started coming. I remember meeting a gyrl in the bathroom telling me she was 13 and told her parents she was sleeping over at a friends house. As well, the media started getting involved. Overdoses, deaths, again legal issues... etc. I think expenses are getting pretty high, with city permits and I believe some cities arent allowing all night parties. This could be why parties are diminishing every month. Gawd, i remember when there was a couple of parties every weekend! Now it's down to like maybe 3 a month. Anyhow, I think it's gotta redevelop itself. The rave scene is like our economy... it's gotta go down before it comes back up again. It's a cycle. As far as music goes, I think it's up to the person whether they go beyond what they hear while they are fukked. To develop their own taste and not to go with what everyone else is into. I believe that music is not just about the lyrics or the overall piece. It's the bass and the snares and the drums and everything inbetween... it's an art and the way the producer/dj portrays himself and his feelings.
so, that's it... this will probably be the first and possibly last longest piece i write Enjoy!
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Jul 22, 02
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word up. ps it would also help if vancouver was a ;arger city, with a populatuion of only 2 million vancouver is pretty fuckin small. fuck if you think about it even toronto is compared to new york or london.
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Jul 23, 02
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Musicwise? I see freeform hitting it off soon, it's getting mighty big in australia....
As for the scene itself, it's past it's prime. It's back to smaller events. The masses got bored with the same dj in a box that happend at the plazza, or riverside every weekend. What's going to be next is something none of us can imagine. Youth cultures never seem to be short of imagination when they first start...
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Jul 23, 02
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