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Old Jan 23, 03
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New Industry Crackdown on Downloaders

The record industry's battle on downloading might start hitting users a little closer to home. A U.S. court ruled Tuesday that telecommunications giant Verizon must hand over the name of one of their subscribers to record industry lawyers. They're looking for a web-user who is suspected of downloading 600 songs in a single day. Verizon has refused to turn over names in the past, arguing that they had a responsibility to protect the privacy of their customers. This decision represents one more step in the ongoing crackdown on downloading which is blamed for decreasing record sales over the last few years.

The Guardian reports Robbie Williams shocked execs at a music industry convention in Cannes, France on Sunday when he described music piracy as "great" and said, "I'm cool, if you want my music - download it."

from Muchmusic.com
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Old Jan 23, 03
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You can't honestly blame them for trying though.

I'm not about to stand up and say that I don't download music because that would be a lie. I do, however, go and purchase an album if I find that I like all the songs I've downloaded. I figure its only right to support the artists who provide me with all this enjoyment.

If you're a broke ass and you don't have the money to buy cd's go ahead and download but if you got a bit of a cash flow I think its only right.

Some people argue that music should be free but if you were the artist who put in all that work to make an album you'd want to make your money. That's not greedy or anything, they're just like anyone who expects to get paid for doing their JOB.

Overall I'm not all that surprised that it's starting to come to this because there is a shit load of money that is being lost.
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Old Jan 23, 03
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I'm not surprised, because the RIAA is losing like millions each day. If I were an artist it would fuckin hurt. I just hope artists realize that they should smart up. They might have to make money some other way. Maybe do more live shows. That would kick ass I personally think.

Also, maybe the RIAA should lower prices. This means less percentage goes to them. I don't get why some artists have to complain. Instead of selling 5million, they sell 1 million. Oh boo hoo hoo. Kid Rock said that and it was funny.

As for making Internet Service Providers responsible I think this is the wrong way to go. This could be a invasion of privacy and the internet is not a place to put a hold on privacy. If this happens, millions of people could get arrested because they d/l pir8 music, software, view child porn, viewing the Anarchists cook book and pretty much anything that is illegal.
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I'm not surprised, because the RIAA is losing like millions each day. If I were an artist it would fuckin hurt. I just hope artists realize that they should smart up. They might have to make money some other way. Maybe do more live shows. That would kick ass I personally think.

Also, maybe the RIAA should lower prices. This means less percentage goes to them. I don't get why some artists have to complain. Instead of selling 5million, they sell 1 million. Oh boo hoo hoo. Kid Rock said that and it was funny.

As for making Internet Service Providers responsible I think this is the wrong way to go. This could be a invasion of privacy and the internet is not a place to put a hold on privacy. If this happens, millions of people could get arrested because they d/l pir8 music, software, view child porn, viewing the Anarchists cook book and pretty much anything that is illegal.
no way man, record sales since the release of napster style apps has increased, i heard that 2000 was the most profitable year for the music industry ever.

the internet is great it helps artists that would be unknown create a fan base, hell with out the internet us ravers would be fucked, we'd never get to hear the music we liked. MM and the radio don't play it, how else are we gonna hear it.

the riaa is fucked, theyll never win.
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The only reason that cd sales have gone down is because most of the music out there is SHIT.

I'm sorry, but even compared to like, 5-10 years ago, the music today is NOT quality. It's record companies trying to make a buck in the fastest way possible.
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Old Jan 23, 03
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they'll never stop piracy
its impossible
for gamez/appz/music/anything!!!
its been here 4ever and always will be

and im PROUD 2 be a part of it all!
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Old Jan 23, 03
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The only reason that cd sales have gone down is because most of the music out there is SHIT.

I'm sorry, but even compared to like, 5-10 years ago, the music today is NOT quality. It's record companies trying to make a buck in the fastest way possible.
there is a lot of good music out there... but most of the "main" artists are producing shit...
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Old Jan 23, 03
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I like the new idea most artists are doing now which is including a dvd making it a 2disc set... AND this new program on a few discs named Bandlink which is installed onto your computer if you have the internet.. It came with my TLC-3D cd and when i put it into my computer it allowedme to sign up with a username and password and now i can chat to other people who have bought the cd, and access exclusive material online...
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Old Jan 23, 03
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RIAA, does not make ANY money,,,, they don't own the record companies.

Also no CD sales are not down! CD sales are up, Just look at the sales of Virgin, and HMV. What is happing is people are by more and different types of CD's, buy from smaller labels and shit that are not represented by the RIAA. It cost them more to sale 1 of 10 CD's then it's to sale 10 of 1 CD.

Also SO FUCKING WHAT is CD sales are down every other industry in the world was going through a slump!!! why should music companies get extra protection from normal mark flux?
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when i put it into my computer it allowedme to sign up with a username and password and now i can chat to other people who have bought the cd, and access exclusive material online...
welcome to big brother... thanks for helping them out. I can not wait to see we CD's are just like windowsXP. You have to register your copy of the music or it stops working in 14 days.
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Old Jan 24, 03
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The only reason that cd sales have gone down is because most of the music out there is SHIT.

I'm sorry, but even compared to like, 5-10 years ago, the music today is NOT quality. It's record companies trying to make a buck in the fastest way possible.
i fully agree. since napster came in, it definetly opened alotta ears since people could find pretty much any song out there on it... but it definetly put the mainstream music industry in a huge slump.... for the past 10 years, punk, hip hop, r&b and rock dominated the music industry... and the music was just gold because people put their hearts to it and you could just "feel" the music. but ever since napster came in, theres been way too much controversy over piracy and the music has just SUCKED since then. but the thing is the commerical pop industry just fully took over the music industry after napster came in cuz it really is the fastest way possible to make some cash (like common thow in a hot chick with big boobs who can somewhat sing BBAM! you've got yourself a deal). people dont give a shit about the music now. just read the posts about chrisinta aguilera on this board! shes incredibly talented but people trash talk her because shes a tramp.... and that shes worse than britney with her trampyness... oh PLEASE!

before napster came in, me and my friends used to buy hundreds of cds.... but the day i got napster, i probably bought 3-4 cds since then? definetly not a good sign.
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Old Jan 24, 03
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The reality is that they said the same things in the past when other mediums were introduced. The industry was opposed to casette tapes 'cuz no-one would buy music, they'd simply tape it off the radio. The film industry was against VCRs, becuase no-one would go to the movies, they'd simply wait for films to come out on video. And advertisers on TV shows would be hurt since people would simply fast forward through commercials. Instead, movies started getting made which almost demanded being seen on the big screen, with big sound, etc - they became more of an event. And if the movie was good enough, more money was to be made once it was released to video (now DVD). As for commercials, most people can't figure out how to record a TV show and even when they do, there's no time to watch it.

There is a solution, its just that no-one has thought of it. Personally I'd pay a nominal amount to download if it meant that I didn't have to try 3 times with some songs cut off, some mis-labelled, some crappy recordings, etc.
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Old Jan 24, 03
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RIAA, does not make ANY money,,,, they don't own the record companies.

Also no CD sales are not down! CD sales are up, Just look at the sales of Virgin, and HMV. What is happing is people are by more and different types of CD's, buy from smaller labels and shit that are not represented by the RIAA. It cost them more to sale 1 of 10 CD's then it's to sale 10 of 1 CD.

Also SO FUCKING WHAT is CD sales are down every other industry in the world was going through a slump!!! why should music companies get extra protection from normal mark flux?
Good point, Because i discovered a few of my new favorite groups (mis-teeq, and issys) through just searching for "RnB" on the internet, I don't believe i'd own their cds now if i never herd of them because they never get any airplay.... good point...
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Old Jan 25, 03
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T They're looking for a web-user who is suspected of downloading 600 songs in a single day.

Hahaha!... Oh Jeez! I think I came close to that yesterday!

Pfft! So what if I have like 2000 tracks on my computer. Thats not alot! Come and get me u music pigs!!! Come and get me!!! :finger:

Mruhahahaha!!! :PartEkid:

Oh great! Now this is where Karma comes and KicKs me in tha ass! Shat!!

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