Playing out...

[nerd]

I don't understand why some people are so eager to play out when they can't even mix in their bedroom? What's up with that? First impressions when playing out to me is a big deal, or is it?!?!?

[Crazy Dave]

hmmmm I know people that do killer sets but still can not beat match,,, I know people that can cut the beats with a knife, but fucking suck...

ether or I guess.

[dfltr]

seems like the motivation would be obvious:

groupies.

[Cdn_Brdr]

Sometimes playing out provides people with motivation they need to get better. They see the crowds response to their mixing, matching, selection....

The more they play the better they get and with input they can only improve right?

[Kraig]

^^ WERD... I practice all the time at home... just not enough... more so not enough time in a day given I work full time. I am like a sponge though... Always watchin to see techniques and tricks that people like Czech, Precise, Cinto, Vinyl Ritchie, etc... are doin.

Watchin Czech @ Tribeca was kewl...

[omega_image]

lol......the first time i played out i couldnt mix worth shit.....it was mostly "fading" but it was at my camping trip for grad and no one gave a shit.....one thing that i did gain from it was getting past that first "barrier" or fear.......i mean a good friend of mine is amazing and he has never played at a party altho given the chance many a time......he's "waiting" till he's perfect.....but in the words of cinto "to each their own"

[AWOL]

^^ Cinto is wise.

[nerd]

Originally posted by Crazy Dave
hmmmm I know people that do killer sets but still can not beat match,,, I know people that can cut the beats with a knife, but fucking suck...

ether or I guess.

Killer sets but still can't beat match? Wtf man, what planet are u on dude? Crazy Dave, you really are crazy! As for cutting the beats with a knife but still suck. I agree with you on that one a bit, so u can't be that crazy. At least though they would keep me dancing otherwise I would just shake my head at the dj while he's wrecking every fucking track cause I didn't pay to listen to galoping beats. I can do that on my own at home, thank you very much.

[ppcock]

how bout dj jean scratching to ppk - ressurection

how the fuck does he get bookings?

[Senior]

As far as not being able to beatmatch... it's called main stage at Riverside, all you do is fade one trance/hard house anthem into the next. When the crowd hears "get ready for launch" they start screaming. Simple as that.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally posted by nerd


Killer sets but still can't beat match? Wtf man, what planet are u on dude? Crazy Dave, you really are crazy! As for cutting the beats with a knife but still suck. I agree with you on that one a bit, so u can't be that crazy. At least though they would keep me dancing otherwise I would just shake my head at the dj while he's wrecking every fucking track cause I didn't pay to listen to galoping beats. I can do that on my own at home, thank you very much.

Odd, I remeber when I couldn't beatmatch, I played two shows, and the crowd went nuts.

Of course. I didn't even try to beatmatch.

[stabmyhead]

"A happy hardcore DJ so pretentious he doesn't even bother mixing." -- Ishkur, http://ishkur.com

<3

[nerd]

Originally posted by NinjaBoy


Odd, I remeber when I couldn't beatmatch, I played two shows, and the crowd went nuts.

Of course. I didn't even try to beatmatch.

The drugs were that good eh?

[nerd]

Originally posted by stabmyhead
&quot;A happy hardcore DJ so pretentious he doesn't even bother mixing.&quot; -- Ishkur, http://ishkur.com

&lt;3

His opinion counts?

[NinjaBoy]

Originally posted by nerd


The drugs were that good eh?

That, and sometimes, you can actually put on a show...

Anyone can beatmatch. Very few dj's make it entertaining.

[meth0dical]

Originally posted by Nolan Sr.
As far as not being able to beatmatch... it's called main stage at Riverside, all you do is fade one trance/hard house anthem into the next. When the crowd hears &quot;get ready for launch&quot; they start screaming. Simple as that.

^^ so true

[nerd]

Originally posted by NinjaBoy


That, and sometimes, you can actually put on a show...

Anyone can beatmatch. Very few dj's make it entertaining.

I don't really care what the dj is doing other than his mixing and track selection. That's what is entertaining me. *Bangs head to beat then raises his hands in the air durring the breakdown* It's good to see the dj enjoying themselves but that's not what I really paid to see.

Anyone can beatmatch. That's true, but that doesn't mean they can mix.

[Senior]

(^) Also a good point but I'd have to disagree on one part of that. A DJ's crowd interaction is just as important as any other aspect of there set. What would Kiss have been without painted faces and crazy hair, or DJ Swamp with out fire breathing and what not. Being a performer is a key component of being a good DJ.

[meth0dical]

if i wanted to see fire breathing i'd go to a freak show...

wait, isnt that what a rave is?

edit: typo

[Global]

Honestly ...... if you gave a monkey headphones for any more than a week it would be beat matching. A four year old could do it. No offence or nothin I just think that basic decent beat matching shouldn't even be mentioned because if somebody can't do it they either haven't been spinning more than a couple months or they have absolutly no musical inclination at all. I think it is the least important thing about DJ'ing because it is the bare minimum. If you can't match beats what are you doing up there?

[Senior]

(^) All very true. What I was saying is that in some cases people are sooooo uneducated about DJ'ing and what they are hearing that it doesn;t matter wether or not you can beatmatch or mix. However if you are playing for an older more educated crowd at a decent club night you better know your shit. I have a friend with a residency at a Club ____________ and he will just stop a record drop another track and the crowd will go nuts. It just all depends on who your audience is.

[dj_precise]

sooo true! Ive seen czech just straight up stop tracks and play the next one, one after the next and still the crowd freaks! Dont know how he does it????

[bren]

playing out has to do with confidence. and over confident beginner will think he can play out but make an ass of himself. a perfectionist will practise and practise till they are perfect before they play out. its is a way of weeding out the respectable and talented artists and those that are after the attention. wherever you go there will be those people who want the fame and glory as fast as they can get it with the minimal amount of energy put into achieving this goal.

sometimes it can be pretty sad.

bren

[nerd]

Originally posted by Nolan Sr.
(^) All very true. What I was saying is that in some cases people are sooooo uneducated about DJ'ing and what they are hearing that it doesn;t matter wether or not you can beatmatch or mix. However if you are playing for an older more educated crowd at a decent club night you better know your shit. I have a friend with a residency at a Club ____________ and he will just stop a record drop another track and the crowd will go nuts. It just all depends on who your audience is.

Yeah, that's totally true.

[Global]

This is exactly what I'm saying. Being able to just drop tracks and make them sound dope or sick turntablism are taking it to the next level. Putting on a good show is what's important. Beat matching is just necessary for a smooth set.