yay! I am gettting tables!

[CBreaksB_20]

so I am finally going to get my set up! used but w/e!


I am pretty sure they are american dj's?? are these any good?

[inkster]

uhh... if you don't know the relative quality of tables, you really shouldn't be buying anything.

do your research first, and then invest.

[CBreaksB_20]

well everyone says get technics and by making this post I am researching before buying... DUH!!, but anyways MY friend in van is selling me his hole setup for 600 bucks this includes tables, mixer, headphones, amp with speakers, needles, and about 60 records.

so thanks for answering my question!! help me out lots,

[sh4un]

that cheap eh
must not be that great of a setup

but watever
why blow all ur $ wen u dont even know if ull stick with it.

[Moon]

the great thing about the techs is that its such a solid turntable and you can get tracks beatmatched as tite as they can get without much trouble once you know what you're doing. american djs, denons, numarks and statons on the other hand.... well you'll be stressing over beatmatching wayyy more than you need to.

just my view on things... spinning isnt about how good you are at beatmatching.. its about the music thats coming outta the main speakers that counts

so get the techs if you wanna have some real fun =) .... but i've heard good things about the new numark ttx's

[Pegasus]

Originally posted by k-pryde
.... but i've heard good things about the new numark ttx's

;)
if ya ask me... they're better than techs.

proof:
when i started spinning, i was using an old gemini 300 (which would change pitch by itself, not a lot, but enough to make your beatmatching fuck up)
and i was using my mom's old record player (which i couldn't even cue a record, i had to pick up the needle and put it down and then speed up the record to catch up with the cue.)

then once i used techs, it seemed SO easy to beatmatch and whatnot

now since i got ttx's, every time i use techs, i find beatmatching so hard. they react way slower.

not only that, they have way more features.

[MusHHeaD]

And with techs, they have a great resale....

speaking of....
I got an extra singe technics SL1200-MK2....
no cart/needle
$550.

Mush

[CBreaksB_20]

so american dj's suck...
maybe I will get technics and buy all the reset of his stuff. the reason he is selling it all for cheap is because I am his friend and he is giving me a wicked deal, when I first asked he said liek 1200 for everything but now he just relly wants to get rid of everything

[Pegasus]

to tell you the truth, i really suggest not buying techs.
im not saying that you probably wont stick with it, or be good at it.
the reason being is because if you get shitty tables, and learn on them and you actually get good, then when you use techs, you'll sound WAY better, and it will seem SO easy.

and in the end it will make you a better dj.

;)

[CBreaksB_20]

so get these american dj tables for now and upgrade?

sounds good

[kimstar]

hes giving you 60 records now?

[sh4un]

wat records r they?
like breakz or wha
cus thats quite the stash

[stabmyhead]

Originally posted by CBreaksB_20:
so get these american dj tables for now and upgrade?

sounds good

NinjaBoy Under Stabby's account:

But american Dj's are really really bad. Like really. The suck more than anything else...

[mojo]

be a big boy and decide for yourself:P

[CBreaksB_20]

Originally posted by mojo
be a big boy and decide for yourself:P

but I don;t wanna!

[-ak47-]

Originally posted by k-pryde
the great thing about the techs is that its such a solid turntable and you can get tracks beatmatched as tite as they can get without much trouble once you know what you're doing. american djs, denons, numarks and statons on the other hand.... well you'll be stressing over beatmatching wayyy more than you need to.

just my view on things... spinning isnt about how good you are at beatmatching.. its about the music thats coming outta the main speakers that counts

so get the techs if you wanna have some real fun =) .... but i've heard good things about the new numark ttx's

exactly. Also theres no reason to get used to shittier turntables because if you do actually get to the point where you play out you'll pretty much never play on turntables that arent technics (or on the same level of quality ie those vestax tables-cant remember model), so you wont be in a situation where you cant handle the bad quality of shitty turntables.

[-ak47-]

Originally posted by PegasuS
;)
if ya ask me... they're better than techs.

proof:
when i started spinning, i was using an old gemini 300 (which would change pitch by itself, not a lot, but enough to make your beatmatching fuck up)
and i was using my mom's old record player (which i couldn't even cue a record, i had to pick up the needle and put it down and then speed up the record to catch up with the cue.)

then once i used techs, it seemed SO easy to beatmatch and whatnot

now since i got ttx's, every time i use techs, i find beatmatching so hard. they react way slower.

not only that, they have way more features.

Why not just get the techs right away and have an wasy time right away instead of when you learn how to beatmatch? Hows practicing on a shitty turntable going to help you at all? I mean the tough part about beatmatching isnt so much about being able to manipulate the turntable correctly, thats the easy part, sure it takes a couple of days to get the right touch but its all about being gentle to the table. The hard parts getting the ear for being able to tell when two sets of beats drift away from each other and when theyre matched. Shit, slowing down or pushing the record doesnt take much practice and besides once you learn that you should start manipulating pitch adjustment through pitch only rather than pushing on the record or slowing the platter.

Personally all I think gettign a shitty table would do is annoy you...

Technics "react slower" how? In response to pitch adjustment? Um I dont think theres anything wrong with the pitch adjustment on technics... The differences between tables are probably really miniscule anyways...

One thing I heard about the TTXs is that sicne its got a digital pitch, it goes in 0.1% (or 0.01%) increments and technice being analogue goes by 0.01% (or 0.001%). However, Im not 100% sure on this, so please correct me if Im wrong.

[AWOL]

Originally posted by PegasuS

the reason being is because if you get shitty tables, and learn on them and you actually get good, then when you use techs, you'll sound WAY better, and it will seem SO easy.

and in the end it will make you a better dj.

;)

No doubt. I have a friend and his mixing is pretty much perfect. One day we went over to his place to play some records and he had this fucked up set up. I couldn't mix worth shit (and I've been playing parties for close to 5 years).

It will help you over come the obsticules of playing out ei. shitty sound, tables, needles and mixer.

I heard good things about Numarks as well. Whatever talbe you get make sure it is a Direct Drive.

[Sean]

If you're serious about spinning you'll just end up needing to upgrade to techs anyways.

Just get them now. Worst case scenario is that you don't like spinning, and sell them for 95% of what you paid for em.

[PH1.ca]

American dj tables are pretty bad. I gotta admit though, Numark's are decievingly good. The platter weighs much less, but because of this you have to learn to pitch adjust, and once you learn to pitch adjust, you can play on any decks at a much higher level. They lock the mixes no problem... I always wondered why Julian was so technically solid

[AWOL]

Originally posted by Sean
If you're serious about spinning you'll just end up needing to upgrade to techs anyways.

Just get them now. Worst case scenario is that you don't like spinning, and sell them for 95% of what you paid for em.

Yeah, Technics never really lose any value and people are always looking to buy. I recomend buying them used, try Masterpaln Productions or E Bay. Precise bought a Tech off E Bay last week for a little over $100.

[Lenny]

I didnt read any of the other posts cause I'm lazy, but in my humble opinion, the shittier the tables the better. If you can spin on miss matched pieces of shit, you can spin on anything and you'll be that much better when you do get 1200s. Save yourself some dough now, learn how to spin and then invest if your sure dj'ing is something you really want to persue.

[dfltr]

Originally posted by -ak47-

Technics "react slower" how? In response to pitch adjustment? Um I dont think theres anything wrong with the pitch adjustment on technics... The differences between tables are probably really miniscule anyways...

One thing I heard about the TTXs is that sicne its got a digital pitch, it goes in 0.1% (or 0.01%) increments and technice being analogue goes by 0.01% (or 0.001%). However, Im not 100% sure on this, so please correct me if Im wrong.

by "techs react slower" i think he was talking about how TTX's have roughly triple the torque of techs. and if i remember that butt ugly LCD display properly, TTX pitch goes in .01's of a percent. whatever the sensitivity of them, i doubt they'd be dumb enough to make it with too low of a resolution... you never know though. this is Numark we're talking about after all.

they basically outclass my beloved techs in every possible way... every way but ONE that is. they're still ridiculously ugly. my god, if a TTX was a car it'd be a toyota echo.

[C@dEnCe]

get techs . whats the piont of grabbin bunk tables youll practise and practise and never get perfect just cuz yer tables aint up to pair???!!! ya know what i meen?

[dfltr]

^^ it all comes back to the original argument: whether crappy tables hinder or help your skills.

personally, i think they help your mixing. you develop a more accurate touch on tables with no torque. you have to really, because there's no beefy tech motor to pull your ass out of the fire if your hands aren't on it right.

still, that doesn't mean anyone should use crappy tables... learning on them is cool, but you've gotta graduate to techs sooner or later.