capital J at fusion dreams

[Ryan Ross]

Originally posted by -ak47-
I don't know whats funnier, the praise for Capital J or the fact that someone thought he spun speedgarage.

Did you hear his set??

[Global]

Yo just to end this stupid thread I'll see if I can actually get some kind of track listing of what he played in Van. I don't know if he'll remember though.........he's a bit of an alchoholic.....

[decypher]

thanks for the effort global, theres a few tracks he played that i absolutely loved, but i just can't put my finger on them... i love capital j's mixing and choice of tracks... oh and simplify, just to tell ya, everyone is laffing cuz speed garage is played on a 4/4 beat, but who cares really... its all about the music...

[Cowboy]

Originally posted by Matty7.0
I think back an remember when I didnt know the difference between Breaks and drum n Nass. I then remember never being made fun of for it. It is funny though
especially how he still doesnt get it! but give him a break! someone explain to the guy the difference between speedgarage and Capital J's trance.

clever..

[simplify]

Originally posted by -ak47-
I don't know whats funnier, the praise for Capital J or the fact that someone thought he spun speedgarage.

you guys are fuckin LOSERS!.. it ISN'T funny. if this is what amuses you, you are in fact a loser. even if there was a significant difference between speed garage and capital j, it still wouldn't be funny!!!.. and there isn't, which makes you even more lame!!.. just shut your fuckin hole! :060:

[simplify]

Originally posted by no1d
thanks for the effort global, theres a few tracks he played that i absolutely loved, but i just can't put my finger on them... i love capital j's mixing and choice of tracks... oh and simplify, just to tell ya, everyone is laffing cuz speed garage is played on a 4/4 beat, but who cares really... its all about the music...

so what do you call the beat on capital j's shit?.. maybe what you mean is that speed garage has a 4 on the floor beat. but 4/4 is also the time signature which capital j's shit had. a couple of pauses here and there does not change the time signature!!.. i'm a fuckin band slut in every single band in my highschool and i'm a drummer, so fuck it all, there is no reason for laughter!!!.. if you guys were laughing with me, i would not give a SHIT!!.. but i'm not laughin'. somebody tell me what's so funny and i'll end this shit. otherwise, shut the fuck up everyone.

[Ryan Ross]

Originally posted by simplify


you guys are fuckin LOSERS!.. it ISN'T funny. if this is what amuses you, you are in fact a loser. even if there was a significant difference between speed garage and capital c, it still wouldn't be funny!!!.. and there isn't, which makes you even more lame!!.. just shut your fuckin hole! :060:

Hahaha...Ok bud chill. I was an uber band geek just like yourself. Dont act like your the only one with any musical backgroud...The difference between speed garage and drum and bass is actually notable. Most speed garage has a 4 on the floor beat, while drum and bass is more of the broken beat style. Also the main feature about speed garage is the baselines, they are sort of bouncy... its hard to explain. But there is a significant difference if you were to hear the 2. If your not educated in the different types of electronic music then you are bound to mess up when you try to classify them.

Dont get all worked up, people are going to laugh when you label a type of music wrong. It happens.

Oh, and its capital J, not capital C

[simplify]

Originally posted by Blunted


Hahaha...Ok bud chill. I was an uber band geek just like yourself. Dont act like your the only one with any musical backgroud...The difference between speed garage and drum and bass is actually notable. Most speed garage has a 4 on the floor beat, while drum and bass is more of the broken beat style. Also the main feature about speed garage is the baselines, they are sort of bouncy... its hard to explain. But there is a significant difference if you were to hear the 2. If your not educated in the different types of electronic music then you are bound to mess up when you try to classify them.

Dont get all worked up, people are going to laugh when you label a type of music wrong. It happens.

Oh, and its capital J, not capital C

yea, i'll take that.

[decypher]

just to clear this up i wasen't laughing or anything, i honestly dont care i was just saying that some people might find it funny cuz they classifie speed garage being on a 1 2 3 4 beat while , dnb/etc/etc/etc/etc. has a 1 2 3 3 4 sort of counting... but really who cares... i see how speed garage type wobbly baselines make there way into a breakbeat ... anyways whatever...

[Sammy Skillz]

i didn't think it was funny.

but i think it's really funny how you're over reacting. breathe, little one, BREATHE!!

-s.

[KenJi]

i found it funny and confusing all at the same t ime.

first came confusion than came the laughter hahaha

[normal josh]

jungle... capitol j was spinning jungleincase your even bothering to check back on this

jungle noted by its double time hip hop drum lines with its single time basslines is more on the rap side of elecronica,

while speed garage is a fairlynew genra of electronica, being a hybrid of uk garage (or any garage really) using the round bubble wavey basslines used over a 4/4 house beat instead of its traditional brocken beat...

there is also a notable difference in the lerickes that are sampled between the two... speed garage has a "deva" feel to it, usually having a womans vocals talking about how you need to repect me and you need to live up to me etc, etc, white jungle usually has a mans vocals either ryming hip hop style or ragga style(usually a white man imatating a jamaican and usually dosent do it very well)

i say thisnot to put any onedown but this is the best expanation that i can offer

[greenwire]

just incase the subject hasn't been totally killed yet, i'm going to stick the final nail in it.

Jungle, in the most basic of terms is a fast (155 - 200 bpm) breakbeat (syncopated 4/4 beat, with accents on the second and fourth beat of every bar), anything beyond that depends on the track, but usually it has a lot of bass, and "good" jungle also has some pretty dark synth lines.

Speed gar(b)age, in the most basic of terms is a garage beat (a fairly medium speed [100 - 130 bpm] 4 on the floor beat, sometimes lightly syncopated, and also usually has accents on the second and fourth beat of every bar), so basically it's a breakbeat, just not as broken.

what makes it speed garage is the basslines and the vocals. the basslines are usually off-beat (more syncopated) and very rolling and almost never distorted. the vocals are usually pulled either straight from 80's diva tracks (or are trying to sound like they were), or ragga dancehall/jungle acapellas (and of course time stretched beyond recognition).

so, the main differences between speed gar(b)age and DnB are the amount of "break" there is in the beat, and the speed (and the amount of subliminal messages suggesting homosexual anal intercourse)

oh, and shawn, i *heart*teh rav0r muzak tew! 10 points :D

[benyamean]

[quote]Originally posted by greenwire
[b]
Speed gar(b)age, in the most basic of terms is a garage beat (a fairly medium speed [100 - 130 bpm] 4 on the floor beat, sometimes lightly syncopated, and also usually has accents on the second and fourth beat of every bar), so basically it's a breakbeat, just not as broken.

I wouldn't say that speed garage drums are breakbeats at all!!!!

[normal josh]

i would have to agree that speed garage is a little bit like breaks... and its a little bit like garage... and its a little bit like house... its a hybrid beat...

p.s. i have heard speed garage with distorted basslines, they just arent as comon, but like you say, they speed garage usually has crisp basslines as breaks do

[soma]

sick sick sick sick sick!

[greenwire]

[quote]Originally posted by benyamean
[b]

Originally posted by greenwire

Speed gar(b)age, in the most basic of terms is a garage beat (a fairly medium speed [100 - 130 bpm] 4 on the floor beat, sometimes lightly syncopated, and also usually has accents on the second and fourth beat of every bar), so basically it's a breakbeat, just not as broken.

I wouldn't say that speed garage drums are breakbeats at all!!!!

listen to the actual beat structure and compare it with a house beat, the accented beats aren't the same, therefore, it's syncopated, therefore, it's a breakbeat.

[Jess_C]

Oh man! I saw him 3 yrs ago....*drools*...would've loved to see that again!