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Jul 02, 03
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mixers?
im trying to find a good mixer to buy.. yet i also dont want to spend too much!
i want a decent mixer with a 3-band EQ (hi, mid, low) and something with a fader curve adjust.. i want it to be a scratch mixer since ill want to be scratching with it later my dream mixer right now would be a vestax pmc 07 (fuck you aaron!), but if you think there's not much difference between a 2-band eq and a 3-band eq then ill most likely get a vestax pmc 05 (oh yeah, and the reason why i want 3 bands is cause ill be learning to mix first, and i guess the more bands of eq the more mixing techniques you can incorporate) john 2899131 
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Jul 02, 03
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its a secret.. MUAHAHAHAHH
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Jul 02, 03
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^^ damnit nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
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Jul 03, 03
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man check out the pmc-37pro... mmm frequency isolators..... i got the pmc05 and its a very nice scratch mixer... although the mid EQ would be very nice....i just got 2 seperate 12band EQ's, but if u got the money id say go for the 07, check on EBAY... u never know how low u might find one....
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Jul 03, 03
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Jul 04, 03
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I did the same thing it sounds like you are doing. Bought a mixer to learn how to mix with, then I needed the adjustable cross-fader to learn how to scratch with. The Stanton works, but it's no Vestax. If price is a concern it's definitley something to look into. Rent one for a weekend, try it out. Rent them both and compare, even.
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Jul 04, 03
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Jul 04, 03
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you dont need a curve.
i never use mine.
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Jul 04, 03
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stanton wears out so fast, yeah its cheaper right now, but in like a year and a half when you've replaced all the faders three times over then it gets more expencive in the long run, but if your lookin at something like that, deacent to learn on, then get the stanton rms-3, its a clone of the vestax pvc-275, its pretty good a freind has one and its good, if you dont mind cue bleeds
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Jul 04, 03
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Whats your budget?
based on how much you wanna spend will really determine what you can get. here is my input Numark 3002x - lots of peeps have it, its cheap works good, 3 band EQ and fader curve adjust, very decent for the price. cons are it will die on you eventually as all numark products do and after 2 years there will be NO more support for parts replacement except whatever is left in existing manufacturers inventory. cost is like 3 bills. Vestax - the New 37pro someone mentioned is sick. it doesnt have EQ's though, it has a 3 band isolator which is different. without going into specifics an isolator processes the audio signal differently than an EQ does, creating a small residual "wah" when applied. you have to be listening for it to hear it. its a matter of personal preference if you like that or not. on the plus side having an isolator lets you have an infinity cut off so when you do kill all the bass for example, it will kill it completely. also has VCF filters on every channel...costs like 1700. If you wanna eventually learn how to scratch you do need an adjustable xfader curve. it makes a huge difference over the types of tricks you can do and how fast you can do them if you have to just tap a fader, or slide it to the halfway point. the vestax 05 and 07 are basically the same except for the 3 band EQ on the 07. Most hip hop/scratch dj's that mix are happy being able to do simple mixes and switch over basslines. if you want to do something more intricate and layer tracks (prog house/trance,etc) you need a 3 band a EQ. 2 band EQs just wont cut it. both these bad boys are pricey but u can pick up used one for cheap and just replace the faders, it will be good as new. the New vestax PVC-180 sounds like a good match for you. Cheap, new design 3 band isolators and the PVC xfader (same as in the 05 and 07) but no curve adjust. i'm sure there is a way to mod it though so u can have a scratch curve. and its only 450 or so. where to buy mixers....Juice, Long & Mcquade, Tom Lee and Masterplan. all of these guys will price beat the other so if you work it you'll get a smokin deal. as for stanton...unless you have enough money, get their valve mixer, otherwise dont get anything...stanton is shit. ok...enuff crap from me. Last edited by Akeel; Jul 04, 03 at 05:37 PM.
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Jul 04, 03
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yeah why dont u need a curve? if anything u dont need a mix curve. you can use the line faders and still do the same thing...but you cant duplicate what a scratch curve does...except with a toggle switch but that creates a loud "click" which sounds like shit.....
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Jul 05, 03
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i seen a guy that moded his vestax 06 i think, its the one with two band eq and two chanels, he put in a stanton focus fader, super good scratch fader (for 2 to 3 monthes) and you can still use the linbe levels to mix with but its still only has two band eq, i didnt know that you could do such a thing as mix brand mixer with different brand fader, but mabey you can do it with other mixers, like the vestax pcv 275 (great mixer i love it, 3 chanel 3 band eq seperate kill switches, more inputs then you could ever need same with out puts, exelent fader, with tho option of using rotary faders, good sound about 800) who knows its my preference as well as chriss goodspin who does alot of scratchin
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Jul 05, 03
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go with the vestax 275, best mixer under a G-note. Whatever you do dont buy the pioneer mixer (the one with the FX&Beat counter) I believe theyre are 2 models of it now and both are fuckin crap and I want to fight theyre moms.
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Jul 06, 03
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So far I've read praises for Vestax, but if you're going to spend that kind of money you may as well spring for a Rayne. There's also been some comparisons of Stanton to Numark and claims of Numarks burning out after 2 years. I've been using my Numark for 5 years (it's now my studio mixer) and I've never had to replace anything on it, so....???
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Jul 06, 03
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if i had the money i'd get the rane empath... designed by grand master flash!!
im thinking about either a mixer from the numark dxm series, or a stanton SA-5 (they're really hard to find).. akeel, does masterplan have any of these mixers? john 2899131
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Jul 06, 03
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its makes you a better scratcher not using the curve.
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Jul 06, 03
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how do i know this is gonna end up being a long post......
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DJM-300, 500, 600 and 3000. I've used all of them and they are all solid, well made, last forever, and have the an excellent bpm counter/fx available in an integrated board. The only complaint about the Pioneer line is its signal processing. Allen & Heath and Rane make the best processing boards right now. The DJM-600 is the most common mixer on contract riders and has been for quite some time. Which ones do you think are crap? and why? Someone said if your gonna spend the money on a Vestax, you should get a Rane. The cheapest Rane 2 channel mixer with 2 band EQ (TTM-52) is still about 800 bucks. Basically a grand after taxes. A top of the line rotary console from Rane runs like 8 g's so, there really is no comparing the two brands. Rane focuses more on the audiophile spectrum of dj'ing, people that want excellent signal processing and studio use. EG: 94.5 uses a Rane TTM-54 for their live dj broadcasts. So unless your comparing the new Samurai Vestax Series against the entry to mid level Rane products....there isnt any comparison. Velcro - Numark products have a long history of failure, leaving me with countless repair orders and a whole wack of used mixers nobody wants. I could go into specifics about solder points, connecters, pots, etc but each to their own. Some Numark products are great, like the CDN-88 and their mixers do come with a lot of features for a low price. The majority of them do not last though, count yourself as one of the lucky ones. Stringbeans - I can special order you anything you want, but you'll get a better deal on the Numark @ tom lee, i'm pretty sure they have the new series in stock. I cant remember if we were getting the Stanton SA-5 in or not, but we dont usually keep stanton products on hand. again i recommend the competition ;) We do have most of the Vestax line and Pioneer, some Rane and....Numark 3002x's. If you cant find what you're looking for, lemme know what u want and i'll get you a price ;) as for not using a curve to make you a better scratcher. In DMC's you have to use the Technics Mixer. The technics mixer xfader only has a scratch curve. There is no fader adjust or mix curve. akeel knows his shit :moon: My dream mixer (if i could only have one) would be...hmm...an Allen & Heath Xone 464 professional with the Penny and Giles xfader and a Pioneer EFX-500 fx box. Now if i had bags of money falling out of my ass, i'd have that, a rane MP2016/XP2016, Rane TTM-56i (the best scratch mixer out right now IMO) and a Pioneer 600 or 3000. But i'm pretty happy with what i got now too :P
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