recording a set with my mixer

[stringbeans]

hey.. ive got a stanton sa-3 and it doesnt have an output for recordings.. the only outputs are for main (1 of the red/white combos, and 1 of the thick connector combos)

anyone have any ideas as to how i'd record a mix?

john
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[AWOL]

record out of your main. then maybe run your speakers out of the output of your recording device, (or mix in your headphones).

[Akeel]

"the big connectors" are called 1/4 inch or TRS (tip,ring,sleeve)
The red and white thingies" are RCA's

Both are your master outputs so plug one set into your amp/speakers, and the other set into you're recording device.

TRS is a better connection - i would suggest you use that for recording and the RCA's for your monitors.

[stringbeans]

thanks akeel! is there a cable that has TRS on one end but a single connector on the other? when i say single connector, i mean the type of connector your headphones use (not the 1/4" one)

[Akeel]

yep there is, you dont ever wanna cheap out on cables either, IMO - especially when recording a demo.

I dont think anyone makes a dual TRS to single 1/8 inch (AKA:mini jack).

The most common adapter is a dual RCA to single stereo mini jack. a good one of those will set you back about twenty bucks.

What I would do is get 2 TRS to TRS, then a stereo TRS(female) to mini jack. But thats a very unique cable...you might not be able to find it.

pm me if you need any help. ;)

[ppcock]

Get a $5 rca -> headphone jack and then throw it into your computer.

Record with audiograbber and master it

this way you have a great sounding demo.

[Akeel]

^
thats shite.
but if you want something that sounds home-made go for it :)

[Velcro]

Originally posted by Akeel

The most common adapter is a dual RCA to single stereo mini jack. a good one of those will set you back about twenty bucks.

WHAT??!

a connector like that is about $5 at any local music store/radio shack. See my signature before buying anything on Akeel's advice.

I doubt you would notice a difference in sound quality no matter what kind of cables you used. Sure, for a live application you want to make sure all your cables are sheilded (most are, anyways) because of all the gear being used. I'm willing to bet that you don't have enough electronics in your bedroom to cause interference concerns. Even if you did, I would hope none of them are running all at the same time you are trying to record a demo....

If you are recording into your computer, just run some rca's from the mixer into your sound card. Connectors are avalable in any combination you can think of, so don't worry about it. Price is argumentative if you really want to get the job done. Then run another cable out to your stereo/pa system. Recording outputs on a mixer are kind of novelties. I mean if they're there, great. If they aren't, the process is still the same.

[Akeel]

Originally posted by Velcro


a connector like that is about $5 at any local music store/radio shack. See my signature before buying anything on Akeel's advice.

hey shithead, i dont know what your personal vendetta is against me or masterplan - but i havent worked there in almost 4 months now.

And if you paid more attention I said a GOOD dual RCA to mini-jack. Note how i also said in "in my opinion".

FYI - those 5 dollar connectors convert stereo to mono which is why i think they're pieces of crap.

I just offered advice i'm not sitting here trying to sell some crappy cables for 20 bucks. idiot.

Maybe to some stockboy shelve filling monkey like yourself audio quality doesnt matter. And yes using one of those crappy connectors may sound fine, to you - but to someone with a discerning ear, they might want to use something that is high quality.

Anyways, keep plugging away at your dream job. moron.

and for the last time - i no longer work at masterplan.

If this comes off as harsh - it is. I didnt spend the last 5+ years in the audio/production industry (working for numerous companies) to have some fuck slanging guitars and drumsticks criticize my integrity, thinking i'm trying to make buck.

[Sean]

That made my morning =P

Akeel is right though; there's a huge difference between the cheapassed cables and the expensive ones.

[Akeel]

:keebler:

[AWOL]

sure there's a difference but is it going to make much of a difference if the mix if going to end up being an MP3?

[dj4mula]

Originally posted by Sean
That made my morning =P

Akeel is right though; there's a huge difference between the cheapassed cables and the expensive ones.

Agreed. I mean if you want to record your mix just to hear yourself play that'll work. But as for a demo you should go for the better quality cables. Our you should record a set at various studios in Vancouver, but that'll cost ya. A demo that sounds clean and crisp will make a big difference.

I start audio enginneering school next week. Once I get a few months under my belt I'll need people to practice my mastering technics on. S I'll be offering free mastering at a professional studio. :c-tard:

`t1m

[Velcro]

Akeel, it's nothing personal. I just like rubbing in the "masterplan mission statement". And yes, "slanging guitars and drumsticks" is my dream job....apparently you know as much about me as I do about you. Sweet Fuck All.

Let's be realistic here, you're recording from records which, in and of themselves don't have the cleanest sound. I honestly don't think that your 'quailty connectors' are going to make much of a difference in sound quality considering the source.

I'm also assuming that everything in the recording chain of this person isn't of 'professional quality', so why bother starting with connectors? He's probably plugging everything into the soundcard that came hardwired to the motherboard anyways.....

Wow. Sorry for providing some cheap alternative information that was probably much more directed towards what this person wanted anyways. I'll never step on anyone's toes with my frugal advice again.

[Akeel]

Originally posted by Velcro
Akeel, it's nothing personal. I just like rubbing in the "masterplan mission statement". And yes, "slanging guitars and drumsticks" is my dream job....apparently you know as much about me as I do about you. Sweet Fuck All.

I know you get some lame sort of satisfaction out of that quote. Get a life. Masterplan charges way more for rentals than L&M, everyone knows that. I'm glad you've found your calling, now keep reaching for that rainbow, sunshine.

Originally posted by Velcro

Let's be realistic here, you're recording from records which, in and of themselves don't have the cleanest sound. I honestly don't think that your 'quailty connectors' are going to make much of a difference in sound quality considering the source.

Records if taken care of properly have very clean sound.
This is why: a pure analog curve vs. a digital curve. Read up on it. I'm not going to explain it all here because i dont have that much time, nor do i know if you'd understand.

Originally posted by Velcro
I'm also assuming that everything in the recording chain of this person isn't of 'professional quality', so why bother starting with connectors? He's probably plugging everything into the soundcard that came hardwired to the motherboard anyways.....

Even if you're recording straight into a soundcard the less times you degrade the audio signal the better your recording will ultimately sound. Any dj who gives a shit about his demo would understand that. I was merely offering my advice.

Originally posted by Velcro
Wow. Sorry for providing some cheap alternative information that was probably much more directed towards what this person wanted anyways. I'll never step on anyone's toes with my frugal advice again.

yeah...but see here's the thing. Lemme refresh your memory.

"read my signature before buying anything on akeel's advice."

You made it personal by criticizing me and my own knowledge because you thought I wanted to sell shit for masterplan. You were wrong.

Anyways on to more pressing matters....how much for a pair of vic firth 7A's nylon tip?

:moon:

[Velcro]

Let's be honest here....'Any dj who gives a shit about his sound' wouldn't be concerned with rca to 1/8 adapters. I mean, why even bother talking about good connectors when we should really be suggesting decent cables/sound cards/mixers/ect. The list, and this argument, could go on and on....just like every other thread where some 'recording engineer graduate' wants to get technical over spinning records for raves..... Think sound quality matters much to any promoter that would end up with this cd? I'm guessing that list of priorites goes something like:
1) Track Selection
2) No trainwrecks

I highly doubt the analog vs. digital curve argument is neccessary reflection in booking the next summer massive....

As for the sig, all you had to do was ask. You shouldn't be taking my shots at Masterplan personally. Hell, you don't even work there anymore. Great! Fire back with all the cracks about my job that you want, because it's just a job. Not my 'dream job' or my 'calling'. If you're attempting to make this personal by attacking me about my 9-5, it's definitley not working. If it makes you feel any better, I don't even do the selling. I'M JUST THE SHIPPER!! OMG LOL!!

PS> $6.95, and if you fill-up a 'frequent drumstick card' the 7th pair is free.

[dj4mula]

Originally posted by Akeel
Anyways on to more pressing matters....how much for a pair of vic firth 7A's nylon tip?

:moon:

It seems Mr. Laithwaite love of band still flows through u.

ha ha.

[Akeel]

^
i enjoy my work :)


Velcro, your sig never bothered me at all, more so the other comment...but this thread could go on sucking forever.

now i'm off to get me some new drumsticks...i do go through them quick enough for a frequent buyer card. :)

[dj4mula]

Originally posted by Velcro

PS> $6.95, and if you fill-up a 'frequent drumstick card' the 7th pair is free.

Where do u work?

[AWOL]

^^Long & McQuade