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Old Oct 24, 03
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John '00' hits out at the hacks... comments please!

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w h e r e a r e a l l t h e r e s i d e n t D J s ? ?

It occurred to me the other day that we're losing our breed of decent resident DJ's. Don't get me wrong, there are still some awesome resident DJ's all across the World, but they are starting to become very rare. If you're currently a budding DJ then read on, you'll get the best advice that you've ever had in your life ...

The true job of a resident DJ is to warm the night up in preparation for the guest DJ. I think that this is one of the most skilled jobs of a DJ. I've been to far too many gigs where the resident DJ on before me is playing at 100 mph and playing all the big hits?? I've had many of my sets ruined because of this. I have to re-start the night and get people back into the groove of the music, and by the time I've done that half of my set has gone. I've even had DJ's playing all my remixes and productions just before I went on??? Not only does the resident DJ have to warm up the night but they have to do their research into who they are warming up for. It pointless playing Hard House before Paul Oakenfold for example? In this day and age it's easy to research DJ's sets on the internet. Look at what tracks they generally start their sets with. Find out the BPM of those tracks and keep your BPM lower than the guests. Don't play any big anthems. Play some tracks that will lift the crowd enough to get them on the dancefloor. It is a real art form to be able to read a dancefloor and know when to get people going. It is an even more skilled job to get the crowd moving without the use of BIG records. This is a skill that takes years to learn.

Some have this thought that if they out perform the guest DJ that they will be able to blagg that they rocked the night and outdone the guest. 'I played much better than bla bla'. This heavily back fires on them. Not only do they look stupid playing a full-on set at 10pm as the club is filling up, but they piss-off the guest DJ. The next time that guest DJ plays at that club he will request that the club find another DJ to play before him/her. However if the resident DJ does a good job, we WILL request the same resident DJ again and in many cases request him/her again for other gigs in the surrounding area. I have done this along with many of my colleagues.

Yes you will get frustrated that you keep playing warm up sets. It's like any job; you have to work your apprenticeship until you get promoted. But as you get yourself established, especially with big name DJ's requesting for you to play before them, the promoter will eventually give you a later slot. This will eventually happen naturally when DJ's turn up late or have to cancel at the last minute you will be given a main time slot to fill the gap. Eventually you will have the change to prove yourself as a prime time DJ, again something that takes skill. From there on you'll start to get guest appearances at surrounding clubs playing prime-time slots….then you too will realise what make a good resident DJ!!!

Main examples that stand out for me are Gatecrasher's Matt Hardwick. One of the best residents that this country has ever seen. For years he simply warmed up for guest DJ's, but the respect he got for doing such a professional job was rewarding. Just look at where he is today. Jon O'bir is another DJ that is currently proving himself at Gods Kitchen. Again being professional at the job in hand, he has become a firm favourite with us guest DJ's that visit the club. Jon will certainly go places.

I hope that has opened your eyes to the tuff job of a resident DJ. Myself along with my colleagues have all been residents. This is the core of how you will learn to be a good DJ. This is the best way that you learn how to read and control a dance floor. Good luck :)


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A-fucking-men! Proper opening sets are something that I so rarely see these days.
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Old Oct 24, 03
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good read =)

i'll let someone else do the talking

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AWOL: Resident AGROculture opener

Sometimes it sucks opening and playing more chill stuff because I think that people will think that's all that I play. On the other hand it can be really fun because I have so much music that I can't play at prime time that goes great at opening.

The bottom line is that DJ's should learn their role and play accordingly to the time slot.
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Old Oct 24, 03
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Originally posted by AWOL
AWOL: Resident AGROculture opener


The bottom line is that DJ's should learn their role and play accordingly to the time slot.
Most of these young up and comers for get that,
Don't we all want to play those headlining time slots to the crowed arenas blasting hard brian bug beats!!!!

opening a room is a hell of a lot harder job to have and the challange only fuels me when I'm in that situation. I love making the room stop shaking just for a moment.. then starting a new groove up again. Way more effective and the peeps seem remember The first and last djs more cuz they're are not rolling their faces off during those set times.... we most of the time anyways.
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If I open, I play more mellow stuff then progress. The room is always packed and dancing when I leave the tables weither it be 11 pm or 7am. I think you can't just bust out hard anthems at 10pm when the headliner will be playing those same anthems later. If so, people will be complaining (and do complain) about lack of variety (ie hearing the same songs over and over).

Not that a opener shouldn' t rock a show but a opener is somewhat responsible for setting the mood for the night. A foundation if you will.

I find opening definately more of a challenge than playing prime time.

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The opener has a much harder job than the headliner, there's no doubt about that. Once people are on the dancefloor they won't leave unless the DJ starts sucking serious ass, which means they can get away with playing certain types of tunes that the opener couldn't. The opener also needs to have a good flow, because otherwise people won't want to dance; again, this doesn't hold true for the headliner. Of course, in a perfect world the headliner will have perfect flow and not just drop all the huge tracks anyways. Proper opening sets are something that I don't see very often at parties in Van though, not necessarily at the fault of the DJs, but rather the people organizing the timeslots. Hell, if a DJ can't do anything other than drop anthems then I don't see why he or she is getting booked anyways.
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Old Oct 25, 03
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ferry could learn a thing or two from guys like danny howells, tenaglia or roger sanchez.. just play the whole fucking night yourself! prove that you're a master of the whole episode with a 12+ hour set. forget opening djs completely
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Old Oct 25, 03
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local house head James Brown (the world, mars, Poo @ wett bar with czech) is knnow across the continent for his power sets to this day he still is the only dj to play at his weekly after hours at the world playing all night. respect to those who hold a beat for 6 hours.

you hear about carl cox and tanaglia djing non stop for 48 at those crazy festivals in europe unbelievable!!
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I'd love to play a 6 hour set
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Old Oct 27, 03
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"you hear about carl cox and tanaglia djing non stop for 48 at those crazy festivals in europe unbelievable!!"

actually tenaglia's record is 19 hours, set at Stereo in Montreal on September 15 this year.. spun from midnight until 7PM. yikes..

http://www.dtourism.com/forums/showt...tereo+montreal

8 hours is pretty common in cities like new york and montreal but 12 and beyond is tough to come by
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Old Oct 27, 03
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sept 20, even
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Old Oct 27, 03
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19 hours.............

holy shit thats alotta records

as for joofs speech, point made and definetly keeps those visions fine tuned and focused

gotta be humble and work your way up one step at a time
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Old Oct 27, 03
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This is an excellent article by '00' :keebler:

I really like his point about how the opening djs should do thier research about who's playing after them and adjust thier style accordingly.
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Old Oct 28, 03
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"you hear about carl cox and tanaglia djing non stop for 48 at those crazy festivals in europe unbelievable!!"

actually.....
I was talking about combined set times between the two of them but interesting fact.. your mind must be so numb after something like that..
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Old Oct 28, 03
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This is an excellent article by '00' :keebler:

I really like his point about how the opening djs should do thier research about who's playing after them and adjust thier style accordingly.
To take that further, that promoters should do their research and not book local DJs with inappropriate styles to play before the headliners.
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Old Oct 29, 03
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I second that!!
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