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Old Oct 01, 01
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Jungle and how it has changed over the last couple years

I dunno I liked it so much more back a couple years back maybe cuz it wuz new to me or sumthin i dunno...
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Old Oct 01, 01
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i first heard jungle in 1994...i was in...grade 6. HA...oh the memories. it was during a family vacation to england to visit my aunt and uncle. and my cousin was like "listen to this" and she put on "Incredible" by MBeat feat General Levy. it was soooooo fucking good...

in retrospect...it was quite cheesy (that track) but still good. I like ragga jungle and dark jungle personally but any type of jungle is OK with me!
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Any type of jungle?

Even IDM?

It's changed over the years, what bascially started as jungle as spawned stupid sub genere's

such as: Jump up. Yes, Jungle finally got it's fluffy pop music.

Jungle over the last two years hasn't changed much...

Jungle now is bland, and comercialzed.

And don't give the old:" You should like it cause Hardcore orginally came from jungle." Cause that dosen't work, cause hardcore is more of a breakcore thing, or old skool acid house thing (kinda)
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Old Oct 03, 01
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2 years ago? what the hell?

2 years ago what was big? dark rollers, techy shit, and the occasional ragga track.

now? hard rollers, techy shit, and the occasional ragga track.

in two years we've gotten tired of huge hoover bass. that's it. woo the fuck. ev-o-lution.

oh yeah, we gained mc groove, the most egotistical and pathetic mc i have ever had the chance of witnessing. we lost jawbone and andym, two of the best djs in the city.

vancouver pop-jungle is shit, but we have mega cool talent in the wings sunday sessions crew still holds it down though. velcro still is interesting, manos is fucking amazing, mikerock has never spun a set i didnt like...

there's a whole new generation of jungle djs, hopefully theres a venue for them soon.

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Old Oct 09, 01
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Ninjaboy.... As far as I understand the evolution of dance music, ragga jungle sprouted from breakcore (oldskool rave hardcore), as well as the gabber/hhc that we know today.
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Old Oct 09, 01
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Ninjaboy.... As far as I understand the evolution of dance music, ragga jungle sprouted from breakcore (oldskool rave hardcore), as well as the gabber/hhc that we know today.
Yeh. And hip hop and reggae.
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Old Oct 10, 01
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preach on werdyboy!

i have to agree with u on this one...

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Old Oct 11, 01
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Old Oct 11, 01
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Natalie: actually, just today I was talking to someone about Dancehall music and I remembered the theory I have about how jungle came about.

some DJ decided it would be cool to mix some oldschool hardcore with a dancehall track.

Dancehall, in case anyone doesn't know, has alot of the elements that are in ragga jungle, minus the drilling amen breakbeats. It has the ragga vocals, the booming bass, and an almost 2 steppish beat.
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for anyone to claim to know the origins of jungle is stupid, for it's origins are a columnation of a whole bunch of things.

even people who were around at the time do not agree, so for someone on this board to shout out 'this is how it happened!' probably believes too much of what they read.

it is more of a outlet for a lower social class at the time, and not a natural progression into a more refined music from other existing musics.

to say it sprung out of one or two or three genres is to miss the entire point of music altogether.

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Either way

Jungle was once nifty, and cool but now it's taken it's renegade attiuide and had it perverted by a few idiots.
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actully, jungle was thought of more of a gang and thug related dance music back in the early 90s around bristol, many stabbings and shootings happened around clubs that were playing the music, since its (popular) roots were in the main ghettos of jamaicans and other blacks.

the outcasted people that make the music are it's first patrons, and then usually the white suburban kids move in and make it 'safe'. (see: hip hop, house, jazz, electro...)

as for jungle now in vancouver, well, you can concern yourself with the lowest common denominator, the mc grooves, the kids pretending theyre jamaican, hearing 'up all night' every week... or you can help out by supporting the slighlty quirky things being done by those like kuma, the sunday sessions crew and mikerock.

i just don't get kids who make dance music thier lifestyle. that's like trying to front like you're down with grilled cheese sandwiches in everything you do.

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actully, jungle was thought of more of a gang and thug related dance music back in the early 90s around bristol, many stabbings and shootings happened around clubs that were playing the music, since its (popular) roots were in the main ghettos of jamaicans and other blacks.
i'm not saying i believe what you say, but here's an example: goldie: timeless-i.Inner City Life

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you can help out by supporting the slighlty quirky things being done by those like kuma, the sunday sessions crew and mikerock.


LINK deserves a shout too$% He has a fine collection of drum and bass and ambient records. :)

~vesperstina

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