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Old Mar 06, 04
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what the fuck is jungle???

I see everyone on this board use the term jungle what is jungle
dnb?
tribal tekk?
progressive with a tribal flav?

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Old Mar 06, 04
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Jungle and Dnb many will say is the same

The similarities are the bpm ranges and beat structures. Jungle is usually a lil more organic sounding, reggae bongo tribal rasta bhangra influenced.... so if you like the raw sound of that type of twist in music, jungle is your thing. Dnb on the other hand is like the trancey, housey, new age hip hoppy version of jungle. It is sampled at higher sound quality usually, and is generally the rave version of music at the 80-95bpm and 160-190bpm range music

Tribal Tekk and Progressive with tribal flav fall under the house category. Usually in the 120-135 bpm range and is also generally preferred by older crowds in Ibiza (as far as i know). Completely different from jungle and dnb yet jungle and dnb have MANY influences and samples from tribal tekk and progressive with the tribal flav

Thats all you basically need to know
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Old Mar 06, 04
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Old Mar 06, 04
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Old Mar 06, 04
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when you hear people mention 'jungle' on here they are most likely talking about dnb. jungle was what dnb was called before like 94-95.

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Old Mar 06, 04
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my take on it is.. dnb is when you have the consistant snare whereas jungle is when you have snares and drums flying all over the place.. haha its kinda hard to explain
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Old Mar 06, 04
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Also to add what has already been said, alot of jungle has that old mash-up style of break, its hard to explain, but the break is chaotic/all over the place. Some producers today still doing that sound with chopped up break samples : breakage, paradox, equinox, krinjah
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i thought dnb was originally called hardcore any truth to that?
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Old Mar 06, 04
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yup hardstlin you are almost right

many people argue that the INITIAL influence for dnb was basically broken hardcore. from then on, it is foolish to not say it hasn't evolved

i personally fuckin hate hardcore. but dnb? damn thats where my heart is =)
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Old Mar 06, 04
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grooverider helped start dnb/jungle by playing 2 hardcore records at offsetting times to form a breakbeat.
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Old Mar 07, 04
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download some old hardcore or breakcore and you can definately see how it evolved.
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Old Mar 07, 04
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decypher & k-pride are right on.

Jungle generely is the harder sound, wether its ragga or breakcore. By that I mean a lot more fills & drum edits.To me jungle is the harder sound: crunchy amen breaks & more acidic sounds (ie. sharp reese synths & terror bass)

D'n'B is mos defenatley the housey side of the genre. Its your basic 2 step break (which has evolved) with sounds raging from really clean sounding funky grooves to grimey crunchy sounding, wobbling basslines. Trust me theres is a difference.

Jungle is the term thats thrown around to generalise the music. But you'll hear most dj's say that they spin "jungle/d'n'b" that's beacause they do. Jungle vs. d'n'b is confusing becasue so many people have different views on it. This is something that will be debated for years to come.

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Old Mar 07, 04
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yea i know, its so confusing. i gotta agree with k-pryde on this one, though, jungle is more reggae/hiphop influenced, and more sampled as well, and dnb is a more techhy sound
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Old Mar 07, 04
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^^that's how a lot of people see it, so it may as well be true

but if you wanna get right to the root of it, it was just all called jungle up until it blew up worldwide around 94-95, then they needed a new, PC, major-label freindly name for the genre, so it they called it drum & bass (the term 'jungle' was too likely to be construed as racist). the sound changed as it gained a wider audience, and recently we've seen a retro-jungle movement start to emerge... so now it is actually apropriate, imo, to use 'dnb' to refer to the newer, stripped-down sounds, and to call the mashed-up drum edit & ragga style tunes 'jungle'.

ed- it's also appropriate, imo, to refer to the entire genre as a whole as either 'drumnbass' and/or 'jungle'.

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