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Old Apr 30, 04
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others: (just a few)

roni size- brown paper bag
adam f- circles
ez rollers- tough @ the top
j magik- space invaders
dj patife- sambassim
peshay-burning up
high contrast- midnight
roni size&reprazent- railing
concord dawn- morning light
teebee- severed dreams
kemal- move you
kruder and dorfemeister- speechless
teebee-april dawn
shy fx-shake it

most of these songs will get pussy on the dancefloor pretty fing quick!
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Old Apr 30, 04
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Old Apr 30, 04
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Man, you guys are awesome ... so many replies in no time. Im really loving the vibe on this board.

Anyone watch Leno Wednesday night? They were playing a track that i've heard at many raves on one of their segments ... wondering which track it was.

But yah, thanks for all the listings.
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no wait there's more!

concord dawn - don't tell me
pendulum - another planet
gridlok - heatwave
gridlok & silver - pacemaker

roni size - brown paper bag
dillinja - tudor rose (original mix)
dj zinc - ska
skeptic - tear
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^^i got those first 4 u mentioned.. and i love them.. mixed them so many times haha..
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Old Apr 30, 04
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*About the Olive track*

FUCK! Someone sent me the accapella for the origional and I started making a Jungle track out of it. And I don't normaly produce Jungle either. I guess I'll scrap that idea now.
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Old May 02, 04
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** about the "Olive" track **


No worries mate ^^ , the track was horrible - a dnb anthem? Scratchin my head on that one, maybe i missed some'ting? Still diggin for the Paul Blackout boom bap mix of the tune tho. Wish me luck! :)
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Old May 02, 04
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concord dawn - don't tell me
that tune.... ugh... i hate it so, so, so, so much. everything about it. when i hear it mixed in on cd's by the likes of shy fx & friction, it makes me think, 'maybe this whole drum'n'bass thing isn't for me. maybe i'm too old. or too smart. or too cool.' it's so fucking wack, it's nickelback, matees. hell, even their lyrics aren't that bad. i got into drum'n'bass, so many years ago, to get away from that kind of pussy fart garbage. a tune like that could be the final nail in the coffin of everything that was once cool about dnb. any jungle kid who listens to this crap and then looks down their nose at trancers & ravers? take another look, IT'S THE SAME SHIT.
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** about the "Olive" track **


No worries mate ^^ , the track was horrible - a dnb anthem? Scratchin my head on that one, maybe i missed some'ting? Still diggin for the Paul Blackout boom bap mix of the tune tho. Wish me luck! :)
I think you're missing a lot.
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Old May 02, 04
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that tune.... ugh... i hate it so, so, so, so much. everything about it. when i hear it mixed in on cd's by the likes of shy fx & friction, it makes me think, 'maybe this whole drum'n'bass thing isn't for me. maybe i'm too old. or too smart. or too cool.' it's so fucking wack, it's nickelback, matees. hell, even their lyrics aren't that bad. i got into drum'n'bass, so many years ago, to get away from that kind of pussy fart garbage. a tune like that could be the final nail in the coffin of everything that was once cool about dnb. any jungle kid who listens to this crap and then looks down their nose at trancers & ravers? take another look, IT'S THE SAME SHIT.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on that...

that song needs to be put out of its misery :( maybe it would be an okay song if they didn't put those garbage vocals in it.

the worst part is if you happen to hear it out (because someone actually had the guts to play it) it gets stuck in your head..ugggh


nobody play that tune on tuesday may 11 at the lotus, or I'll fucking cutchu!
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Old May 02, 04
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I wholeheartedly agree with you on that...

that song needs to be put out of its misery :( maybe it would be an okay song if they didn't put those garbage vocals in it.

the worst part is if you happen to hear it out (because someone actually had the guts to play it) it gets stuck in your head..ugggh


nobody play that tune on tuesday may 11 at the lotus, or I'll fucking cutchu!
no one is allowed to play that tune on tuesdays.....ever. on pain of pain.

anyways, from discogs:

"Freaky Flow / artists
Records with others as: Freaky Flow & MC Flipside, MC Effort & Crew

Releases:
none
Remixes:
* You Wouldn't Believe (Freaky Flow Remix) on Keep It Live, CD (Moonshine)

Appearances:
* Clearance (Safe Mix) on Keep It Live, CD (Moonshine)"

"Capital J / artists
Releases:
* Noize Check, 12" (Nitrous Oxide Records)
* Uppn' Tha Ante / Sandgrinder, 12" (Nitrous Oxide Records)
* What is a DJ? / Mr. Mista, 12" (Wikkid Records)
* The Throwdown / Ice Pick, 12" (Wikkid Records)
* What You Done / Lock Jaw, 12" (Wikkid Records)
* Childish Games / Niagara Falls, 12" (Wikkid Records)
* Bumbaclot / Who Dat?, 12" (Wikkid Records)
* Beat Boxin' / Rushing Crew, 12" (Wikkid Records)
* Jack Mode / Childish Games (Remix), 12" (Wikkid Records)
* Bumbaclot!, 12" (Wikkid Records)
Appearances:

* Red Skull (Melting Man Mix) on Red Skull, 12" (2 Wars & A Revolution)
* Red Skull (Original Mix) on Red Skull, 12" (2 Wars & A Revolution)
* Red Skull (DJ Scissorkicks Mix) on Red Skull, 12" (2 Wars & A Revolution)
* Unrealistic Terroristic Acts on Out Tha Box / Unrealistic Terroristic Acts, 12" (Nitrous Oxide Records)
* Evil Streets on Evil Streets / Metal Gear (Remix), 12" (Mix & Blen' Recordings)
* Diss Da Program on Diss Da Program / Klash, 12" (Nitrous Oxide Records)"

"Dieselboy/ artists

Releases:
* Patriot Games EP, 2x12" (Tech Itch Recordings)
* The Descent, 12" (Palm Pictures)
* Invid, 12" (Palm Pictures)
* Render, 12" (Palm Pictures)
* Invid (Remixes), 2x12" (Palm Pictures)


Remixes:
* Hard Times (Dieselboy Vs. Decoder Rmx) on Hard Times, 12" (Palm Pictures)
* Opticon (Dieselboy and Technical Itch Arena Mix) on Opticon, CD5" (Reprise Records)
* Opticon (Dieselboy and Technical Itch Dub) on Opticon, CD5" (Reprise Records)
* Opticon (Dieselboy & Technical Itch Arena Mix) on Opticon / Fiction (Dreams In Digital), CD5" (Reprise Records)"

so there you go....now if you pick up an mp3 that says dieselboy or capital jay or freaky flow and it DOESN"T appear on that list it's NOT one of their tunes, just someone else's tune that they slapped on a cd.
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Old May 02, 04
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another classic favorite of my is an old darkstep single off of "no u turn"

The Cells - ed rush (i believe)
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Old May 02, 04
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take another look, IT'S THE SAME SHIT.
only different....?





as far as classic i dunno/well-known i dunno but that dun really matter
you dont want "classic/well-known" dnb you want good dnb
i dun care if its 15minutes old or 5years old/ "ahh to be a newb again.."
obviously youre new to it so it all new to you/ you need to find yourself a dnb guru/someone to shove all their dnb down your throat/// you can offer your services as rekkid lackey in return "fetch my rekkids bizatch"-dj dubfiend
long exposure to dnb will turn you into a "dub-addict"/ it seems like you cant avoid it// dubs dubs dubs
heres my playlist right now go DL em an if you like em good for ya/if you dont like em HAHA to you wastin your time
thas wut you get for trusting the tastes of a stupid newb



shimon - midnight run
gridlok - horizon
counterstrike - v
d.kay & epsilon - platinum (illskillz remix)
synapse - mindbender
the militia - war cry
black sun empire & concord dawn - the sun
arQer & realtime - stop action
hive - surreal uncut (teebee remix)
paul b & subwave - three suns
rawthang - know it
rawthang - wicked style
resonant evil - troubleshoot
submerged & flea - 28 days
)EIB( & Trace - nitrous (dillinja remix)
pendulum - another planet (this sounds like clownstep to me but apparently im wrong cause i dont know shit)



all you dnb gods keep throwin out tracks/
much appreciated
i will add more shit later


*typing shit for the sake of typing shit :294:
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Old May 03, 04
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love that track personally
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that tune.... ugh... i hate it so, so, so, so much. everything about it. when i hear it mixed in on cd's by the likes of shy fx & friction, it makes me think, 'maybe this whole drum'n'bass thing isn't for me. maybe i'm too old. or too smart. or too cool.' it's so fucking wack, it's nickelback, matees. hell, even their lyrics aren't that bad. i got into drum'n'bass, so many years ago, to get away from that kind of pussy fart garbage. a tune like that could be the final nail in the coffin of everything that was once cool about dnb. any jungle kid who listens to this crap and then looks down their nose at trancers & ravers? take another look, IT'S THE SAME SHIT.
yeah you're totaly right. that tune is pretty pop in the d'n'b spectrum. altho there have been many tunes that go that extra bit to be more recognizeble. wether it's tunes like 'twist em out' , 'liryc on my lip' , 'body rock' , 'the vault' etc... they are all directed to a general audience. in a way i find track like this valuble in the world of d'n'b, because it expands peoples taste in music, and that may get more people into the sound. IMO.
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Old May 03, 04
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haha wow you guys really hate that tune eh? =p

i havent actually heard it yet but i'll take your words on it and not bother listening.

as for what wood was saying i hear you on that. dnb lately has been really going beyond its limits into the dumbass zone. alot of the stuff that is popular nowadays is just too much.... a normal, sane person in reality would find it hard to handle in large quantaties.... but itLL be back to normal soon dnb always has its lil breaks.. let the other ones have a lil spotlight =)

damn i can't wait till andy c and dsl go at it..............
and mc GQ in the muthfuckin house!!!!!!! of all mcs out there, this guy is probably one of my ultimate favorites. i've never had an urge to bitch about that guy.. and i bitch about mcs alot.
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in a way i find track like this valuble in the world of d'n'b, because it expands peoples taste in music, and that may get more people into the sound. IMO.
i see your point c, but if that's the direction dnb is going, then i want out. i've always liked dnb for the fact that it could capture some pretty intense emotions without having to be too subjective or lyrical... the whole 'teen angst' vibe of 'don't tell me' is just fucking weak and juvenile to me, it the kind of sissy-pants whinging i'd expect from Avril Levigne or Evanesence. i've always considered dnb to be above that. if this tune was just popular with the kids & getting plays from Dieselboy & the like, i probably wouldn't give it a second thought - but now that it's made it's way into the bag of virtually every top-flight name in the genre, i'm seeing it as a very bad omen for jungle music. last time dnb got all dark & brooding, it fell into a rut that it's never fully climbed back out of. this tune takes that brooding one step further into bad-NIN-imitation territory. For every disenfranchised suburban teen (yuck) that it draws in, it'll turn off another (or more) long-term fan who's into the stronger, more empowered, less flakey side of the music. If that's the crowd Concord Dawn and their supporters are looking for, they can bloody well have them.
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i see your point c, but if that's the direction dnb is going, then i want out. i've always liked dnb for the fact that it could capture some pretty intense emotions without having to be too subjective or lyrical... the whole 'teen angst' vibe of 'don't tell me' is just fucking weak and juvenile to me, it the kind of sissy-pants whinging i'd expect from Avril Levigne or Evanesence. i've always considered dnb to be above that. if this tune was just popular with the kids & getting plays from Dieselboy & the like, i probably wouldn't give it a second thought - but now that it's made it's way into the bag of virtually every top-flight name in the genre, i'm seeing it as a very bad omen for jungle music. last time dnb got all dark & brooding, it fell into a rut that it's never fully climbed back out of. this tune takes that brooding one step further into bad-NIN-imitation territory. For every disenfranchised suburban teen (yuck) that it draws in, it'll turn off another (or more) long-term fan who's into the stronger, more empowered, less flakey side of the music. If that's the crowd Concord Dawn and their supporters are looking for, they can bloody well have them.
harsh words there man

heres a problem with dnb and it has been in full effect ever since i first started listening... a large majority of the people involved are either deaf or just straight up stupid. alot of dnb djs out there lack depth in music, and just like hard noise. its true as well.... dnb is easily one of the most ear destroying genres out there if the shit is cranked in excess and many dnb djs around the world have paid the toll and the result is the inability to play deep music due to the destruction of their brains and ear drums

i may be going off in a different tangent since you're talking about a lame pop culture taking over dnb. I personally follow my own roads and sounds, and the djs i follow are consistantly following their roads as well. The popular dnb as of now consists of people who are either up and coming, or the ones who have never really been at the top compared to the likes of the people from RAM, dieselboy, infrared and i guess metalheadz to a certain extent.

Dnb may be at a slump as of now, but it will make a comeback for sure. I know it the music is just too hot and too good for it to die into the lame areas of commercialism. There are great commericial leagues out there, and the avril and nickleback league doesnt compete.
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^it's true, man... the music on a whole is still very strong, i guess one shitty tune isn't cause for alarm. i'm just disturbed by the popularity of it amongst the big-name UK dj fraternity... seriously i'd NEVER expect Shy FX to support a tune like that. maybe they're hearing something different that i am.... but i'm not so sure. dnb seems to be gradually moving towards a younger, whiter, more male-dominated listener base, and to me that is not good news. cause the moment we start seeing sweaty shirtless mosh pits at jungle shows, i am OUT. no shit.
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^ hahaha so true about the white sausage fest!

but the c and dsl know how to get the ladies hot n bothered =) they want them to have their children!!!!
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So lets talk about commercialism in dnb. Peeps commenting on Concord Dawn, vs. Shy FX - two glaring examples of commerciality in dnb. I havent' heard the Concord Dawn tune, but have an idea on what it might sound like... If commerciality in dnb is a "bad" thing, dnb at its worst to some, then both are guilty. You can diss "Shake Yer Body", on the same level as peeps might diss Concord Dawn now. Both tunes apparantly appealing to wiiiiider audiences, hitting outside of dnb. Concord Dawn might be pulling out their angst ridden rock influences in trax, but is that as bad as some wack or soft RnB tunes getting the play in Dnb circles.
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why is that every dnb thread turns into some bitter jaded debate over something totally useless?

hahaha

sad

but yeah shake your body is untouchable. beautiful track. one of the greatest moves in dnb ever.

as long as it's good music, well produced, sounds good, has a level of depth, then whatever. i dont give a fuck.
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^^ i'm not saying that commerciality is a bad thing, but when anyone has issues with commercial angles on dnb, and dissing say... Concord Dawn for turning into Nickel Back, or Shy FX for churning out Jefferson Starship sounding Dnb (har har)..... i dont' see how one is generally deemed to be "better" than the other. Commerciality has always been there, some tunes are GREAT, some aren't.

And I find it ....um... abit sad that the merrits of the music are kinda judged on these "big" commercial tunes. What's worse?


AND is it sooo surprising that big name, maybe "commercial" dnb dj's like Shy FX (depending on who you ask, i suppose) - who of course rocks in his own right - are playing said commercial tunes?

Why be so surprised about it?

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every genre is going to have artists like this
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i wasn't really meaning to accuse Concord Dawn of being overly commercial. i don't have a problem with artists trying to bring their sound to a wider audience, as long as it doesn't mean compromising their own idea of what makes a good tune. The thing about drum'n'bass is that, while it does take influence from a lot of different places, it is essentially descended from hardcore rave music. To the average listener, dnb is hardcore bizness, even at it's most soulful (excluding the Good Looking style atmospheric, which tends to be more soothing). Over it's history it's been the combintaion of soulful elements, borrowed from funk, reggae & rnb, with hardcore breaks & basslines that have made dnb so successful. That's why there used to be such a wider variety of ages & cultures in the dnb scene. when dnb came full circle and went, largely, back to being purely hardcore, it scared away a lot of the ladies, a lot of the brothers, etc, to the point that we're left with a very white, male dominated scene (worse globally that it appears to be here in vancouver). By bringing this male-angst-rock influence in with a huge hit tune, what Concord Dawn have done is open the door for a flood of imitators who could potentially alienate yet another huge segment of drum'n'bass' listenership. And if, at the same time, they gain some new listers who have an appreciation for that sound, then great - but it's not for me or most of the people i know who've had similar experience with dnb.
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