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  #26 (permalink)  
Old Jun 25, 04
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Originally Posted by StoNeY
Well to say it straight up, I HATE RAP. And this is the kind of hatred that even prevents me from respecting 99% of rappers as artists. Lyrics are terrible and the background rythms are as inspiring as taking a shit. It seems that in rap, musicianship is not as important as image. Which makes me wonder how something with such shallow traits has become such a popular genre of music for such a long time. Please explain???
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Where the music relies more on our eyes than our ears.
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Old Jun 25, 04
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It all depends on what you wish to gain from your experiences when you listen to music, and that is all entirely dependant on the listener themselves. Of course, to each their own.

I find that when you don't prefer the flavor of a particular genre of music, it's hard to see anything of value in the music beyond the completely superficial. It took me awhile to really get into the whole rap thing for some of the exact same reasons as you've stated. To me, it was probably just a matter of discovering the good stuff on my own. I remember I thought rap was stupid- glorifying drugs, violence and degradation of women. This all changed when I picked up a KRS one CD and was actually amazed at what I heard. Don't talk about uninspiring unless you've at least heard a fair sampling of decent artists- I've seldomly been inspired by stuff on the radio or MTV. The whole deal with POPular music is to make something easily digestable that people will enjoy. A lot of the mainstream stuff that may be the little rap you've been exposed to, and I could see how you could have a hard time understanding why people appreciate it so much. (although I'd admit that there have been some times i've listened to cheesy music and danced around my house..)


Why has it been popular for so long? It's represented a large cultural, urban movement by a large minority in America. I'm sure people thought the same thing about jazz. Nobody really 'got' Picasso in the early twentieth century, so why do we all know the name? What this music has done is really connected so many elements (breaking/mcing/graf) that believe it or not are a major artistic movement for our time. Remember, just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it doesn't have artistic merit.
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Old Jun 25, 04
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with the Emperor General
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can science achieve the unified theory of complex systems
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observer
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can science achieve a unified theory of complex systems?
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can science achieve a unified theory of complex systems?
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change the earth south saliva run in your mouth gastric juice more beyond
since mother goose created shapes the first man was hairy apes
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over powering spray crops like DDT
the first around apollo 13 beaming down through rain drops white pieces hit
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guarded by sonic steel and taken off by thundercats
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seein three of me
illusions fusions particle gas confusions i run space shuttles in EM you
the solution
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the past in fabric liner you in my future now
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perhaps concepts could not explain
is h2o a gas or a liquid?
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psychology is not applied biology nor is biology applied chemistry
whats the issue?
psychology is not applied biology nor is biology applied chemistry
whats the issue?
psychology is not applied biology nor is biology applied chemistry
whats the issue?
psychology is not applied biology nor is biology applied chemistry
whats the issue?
psychology is not applied biology nor is biology applied chemistry
whats the issue?
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is light the source?
touch my delicate instrument
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is light the source?
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touch my delicate instrument"
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Old Jun 25, 04
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of course you dont get it...youre an engineer

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Old Jun 25, 04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StoNeY
Well to say it straight up, I HATE RAP. And this is the kind of hatred that even prevents me from respecting 99% of rappers as artists. Lyrics are terrible and the background rythms are as inspiring as taking a shit. It seems that in rap, musicianship is not as important as image. Which makes me wonder how something with such shallow traits has become such a popular genre of music for such a long time. Please explain???
make a better beat, then bust a rhyme fresher and ill believe you. right now it looks like you just dont understand it, which is fine. i don't understand how people can like breaks and trance.
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Old Jun 26, 04
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Originally Posted by rawb
make a better beat, then bust a rhyme fresher and ill believe you. right now it looks like you just dont understand it, which is fine. i don't understand how people can like breaks and trance.
Kids learn how to rhyme in kindergarden. I just find that the level of talent required to play guitar/bass/drums/sing well, is far beyond the talent nessecary to "bust a fresh rhyme".
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Old Jun 26, 04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StoNeY
Kids learn how to rhyme in kindergarden. I just find that the level of talent required to play guitar/bass/drums/sing well, is far beyond the talent nessecary to "bust a fresh rhyme".
like i said, ill find a song, play a beat for you, you can rhyme over it. we'll compare it with the original and we will see if you're right.

let me know when.
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Old Jun 26, 04
COQ WAT?
 
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I'm not saying that i'm personally good at it. But it take more talent to write a good rock songs, then it does to rhyme over a beat. Better yet, how about i write a better backing rythmn then anything you show me.
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Old Jun 27, 04
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^all this slagging of hip hop, while your sig & usernote are peppered with hip hop slang. interesting.

good songwriting takes talent, what genre you work in doesn't matter at all. A highly talented rapper will produce better music than a mediocre rock band, and vise-versa. I could just as easily say that rhyming over a beat takes more talent than hollering over some drums & guitar, but i won't because i understand music enough to see what an ignorant and irrelevant comment that would be.
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Old Jun 27, 04
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...think hip hop is awsome! i especially like the old skool kind! 80's !! royce da59 are ma fav...and as far as the new gen of rappers. as far as lyrical style ill have to go (despite many ppls dislikes for him) with Jay-Z..he is smooth, lyrics are smart and really speak your mind sort, which i dig! and he sounds awsome in dnb remixes too :))))

tested01: and a greater majority of the world hates techno.atleast i seem to think so. <---K, a little too much of eminem! hehehe ..come to Europe and you will see just how dead it is...!!

That's ma two cents on dis matta!
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Old Jun 27, 04
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Originally Posted by ebbomega
My immediate thought here is that some people just need to listen to better Hip-Hop.
..or have it shoved down their throats
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Old Jun 27, 04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sykonee
MTV.

Where the music relies more on our eyes than our ears.
relies more on our pockets than anything else
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Old Jun 27, 04
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Originally Posted by dJ k4
...think hip hop is awsome! i especially like the old skool kind! 80's !! royce da59 are ma fav...
yea i remember back in '86 cruisin the boulevard blazin royce tracks like i been there...


Quote:
Originally Posted by dJ k4
and as far as the new gen of rappers. as far as lyrical style ill have to go (despite many ppls dislikes for him) with Jay-Z..he is smooth, lyrics are smart and really speak your mind sort, which i dig! and he sounds awsome in dnb remixes too :))))
jays got some shotty production
wut dnb remixes you have with him on it
i wanna hear em

you ever heard a mobb deep dnb remix??
these jayz ones sound just as shitpile as that or worse??


Quote:
Originally Posted by dJ k4
tested01: and a greater majority of the world hates techno.atleast i seem to think so. <---K, a little too much of eminem! hehehe ..come to Europe and you will see just how dead it is...!!

That's ma two cents on dis matta!
but yea europe doesnt count
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