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Nov 29, 01
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Oakenfold
I'm listening to an oakenfold mix (well i have been listening for the last 20 mins). Something called, live at gods kitchen.
I just heard an add in the middle of it, as part of the set. That dosen't bother me, It's not like i didn't expect that. I'll tell you right now, this isn't another oakie sucks post. Listening to this mix I can tell you, it's not bad. It's not good, it's not bad. If you like euro trance it's good. I find his mixing skills are, average, nothing to bow down and worship, but if this was playing at a party, i might be able to enjoy it for the most part (wow I can hear a bunch of people cheering in the backround, why do they cheer? Cause it's at the breakdown.) But the thing is. It shouldn't be, not bad. I should be amazed, his mixes should astound me, his technical skills should show me something truly amazing. (god will those idiots stop yelling his name?) Where am I going with this? well quite frankly his name is selling more then his actually skills are. His boring cut and past mixes seem to be the same all the time. His skills, are what you would expect if someone casually dj'd for as long as he did. But he's supposed to be the god of djing. Example: I recently (fuck it's getting annoying with people chanting his name...) anywho, i recently had the pleasure of meeting and watching dj abasi spin at nitemare. Watching him spin actually intrests me. Why? Cause he tries things, rather then playing one track then beatmatching the last minute or so and pulling the crossfader. No, abasi tries interesting things, he actually mixes tracks, he loves the music he plays, he plays fresh orginal tracks (I guess you don't have to do that when anything you play will be met with people chanting your name) Jesus, if you read this far, damn. the point of this is: Two things: I would like to see a party where, they didn't put the name of the dj's playing at the party. Wouldn't that be great, I mean, you would go there and you'd be totally supprised by what's playing, you wouldn't expect what's comming next, you wouldn't be seperated by crowds who like diffrent music. You wouldn't be there cause the guy is from the UK. You would be there for the experiance, and you would experiance what it truly is to enjoy "rave music". Not caring who it is, just the fact that is is there, and done right. and don't assume cause someones name is plaster all over mags, that they are good. The locals here have some tricks up there sleaves, such as abasi, czechs, deliverance, miss inocennt. Meh, I'm just rambling cause listening to this mix, i'm tired of hearing people chant his fucking name. Great now they started a chant to the beat. SHUT UP!!! 
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Nov 29, 01
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I've actually started listening to various world class DJ mixes recently, and I am starting to see why some of these guys are considered world class. The tracks they play are REALLY good. True, I don't think they are worthy of the godlike status they seem to have, but then again, I don't think ANYONE deserves a godlike status.
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Nov 29, 01
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Thing about his cds... it's just a name attached to it. He dosen't choose his own tracks for the cd. Each track has to be played for a certian amount of time. And a lot of the times they are studio done (ie, computer mixes for him) I probably wouldn't have hated that mix, cause the mix is so so, excpet for the constant yelling in the background, "oakie, oakie, oakie..."
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Nov 29, 01
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His Essential mix from a couple weeks ago, live at Gatecrasher, was awesome. When I saw him at Area One, he was awesome. Ya, his mixing isn't perfect. It probably should be perfect seeing as how long he's been DJ'ing, but I dunno. From a skills perspective, I could do an Oakenfold set. What seperates him from most other DJ's are his tracks. He plays shit no others DJs have, tracks that almost every trance DJ will be playing a few months down the road.
God, hardly. Excellent DJ, yes. The point of DJ'ing is to play music the crowd will enjoy, Oakenfold obviously does that to great effect.
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Nov 29, 01
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Sean, thank you, I was hoping for a reply like this with valid points.
I'm going to say this though. I am a strong believer of, track selection is the most imporatnt aspect of djing. But. Oakinfold's track selection isn't too great. For the most part he is payed to play tracks. It builds up the hype for the track. I'm sure If I booked him, and just gave him some random tracks that I have in my record bag (i have some trance cause trance is damn fine) everyone would go off and chant his name. THe point is, his skills have been shadowed by his name. I would love to see Oakinfold booked, but don't tell people it's oakinfold till after his set is through... that would be damn interesting.
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Nov 29, 01
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If I was at a party Oakenfold was spinning at as a mystery DJ or something, and assuming I didn't see his face (he's pretty easily recognizable), I would still know he was a top class DJ from the tracks he was playing. I'm sure the majority of the crowd would enjoy his set too and be like "this guy is awesome", because the music he plays is very crowd pleasing. Lots of hands in the air style buildups, it has great effect on a trance loving crowd, or a crowd that's on drugs =P
Oakenfold's mixing is good *enough* too. He doesn't trainwreck (at least that I've heard), and really, that's about all the general party going crowd will be able to comment on in terms of mixing. I personally can't listen to a DJ anymore without almost stopping during all transitions to listen to his mixes, but the vast majority of people are pretty oblivious to the type of mixing that's going on. As long as it sounds decent they'll keep dancing. But I know what you're saying. I have a lot of whites/promos and new releases that DJ's like Oakenfold and Tiesto are banging off every gig, and I'm sure if you dressed me up like Paul Oakenfold and put me at some random massive, people would chant "Oakie! Oakie!" and go off to the tunes, whereas if you just put me at a random massive as myself, and I played the exact same set, the crowd wouldn't be as into it. That's just the way things are in the DJ world =P I know personally that I'll go off a lot harder to Tiesto than I will some other random trance DJ, even if said random trance DJ is just as good. Why is that? Well, these guys have earned their reputations, and it's a treat to see them.
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Nov 30, 01
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Re: Re: Oakenfold
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This has nothing to do with me being elitest. I was stating, name vs actual music. This was an actuall honest disscusion to where electronic music is going. Sean is bringing up valid points which are worth while to discuss, which is why I made this post.
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Nov 30, 01
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I kinda agree with this. I agree people would get into it, but not cause of the mixing, simply the tracks. Nobody would be saying, this guy is awesome or anything. But he plays crowd favs. Quote:
But in the new, consumer rave scene, i guess that's what maters. Oh yeah, I probably would have enjoyed the mix more if i didn't have to hear everyone chanting his name in the backround, that's what really pissed me off. Last edited by NinjaBoy; Nov 30, 01 at 12:24 AM.
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Nov 30, 01
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Just to clarify one thing for Snyx, Basement Jaxx is not a single person, they're a production duo out of South London, consisting of Simon Ratcliffe and Felix Buxton. You may even go as far as saying there is a third member as well, Corrina Josephs who is a regular for track vocals. Hope that helps, and yes they are good at what they do.
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