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Old Aug 03, 04
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What program to use to do Live recording?

..... from turntables to your computer... what is the best program to get??
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sound forge.
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Old Aug 03, 04
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^ Ya, definately sound forge, version 6 is the best, don't get 7 because sony bought out sonic foundry and used all sony allogrythyms and they all suck, version 6.0 is the shit tho!
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Meh, If i had a mac i would be using protools free.

Untill i actually buy a Digi 001 i use sound forge as well.
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Meh, If i had a mac i would be using protools free.

Untill i actually buy a Digi 001 i use sound forge as well.
if i had a mac i would use protools aswell... mac is choice!
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Old Aug 04, 04
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I use Sound Forge 6.0 as well, really easy to use.
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Old Aug 04, 04
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i also use soundforge.. its a little overkill considering all the stuff it can do besides just recording but its pretty easy to use
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Old Aug 04, 04
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I've been using Wavelab more and more, even though I've been using Soundforge for many years.

Reasons: Wavelab can auto-split files for you, so you can record a whole party and have it auto-split at each hour, so if you crash or run out of space, you still have all the previous hours saved out as individual files. Wavelab can record more than one input at the same time (like, to more than one wave) - useful for recording, say, the mixer and a stereo microphone at the same time. Wavelab has more ways to monitor what you're recording - just eye candy, I guess, but useful nonetheless.

Not saying Soundforge isn't perfect for recording live stuff, but I've found Wavelab to be a bit better for my needs. :)
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Old Aug 04, 04
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If you were using a mac, why use Slow Tools? Why not logic? it owns everything :)
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Sure, if you've got six months to spare to learn how to use Logic. :)

(this is from a longtime Logic user... I love the program to death, but learning it is a serious PITA!)
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Old Aug 04, 04
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yea..
Its fuckin sketchy. But i think i've got a good hold of it now.
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Old Aug 04, 04
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If you were using a mac, why use Slow Tools? Why not logic? it owns everything :)
Just because a program is the most complicted doesn't automatically mean it is the best, especially for specific applications, like the one this guy was asking about. I love the pretentious elitest attitudes that always surface when ever anyone starts a thread like this. I mean c'mon, the guy wants to record from his turntables into his computer, not score a motion picture or write a trance anthem. In my opinion recording a dj demo doesn't exactly require a complex midi sequencer, just a good audio interface and a solid audio recording program. Either Sound Forge or Protools would be more than adequate for that, and to be honest, having used both Protools and Logic extensively to me it is like comparing apples and oranges...
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Hmmmmm, well, I was simply stating that if you own a mac, would it not allow the user more freedom to learn audio by tracking with Logic?.....I recomended this program, as long as it in mac format over pro tools because, A.)Pro Tools sounds tiney, and most DJ's are straight up infatuated over bass, lets be honest, even with the digi EQ's, you still don't get the bass response that it should have.......B.)Logic's clock is (argueably) the best, thus making it an ideal choice for recording, no matter what the program material it is which you are getting to disc. C.)If you really got into the music which you are recording, and wish to compose something, you have already a rough idea on how to navigate within the program already, hence less troubles trying to figure out how to get from point A to point B as fast as possible without interfering with your creative process. Logic is not terribly complicated, it seems overwhealming at first because of its diversity, but if you really sit down and look at it for a lil while, its all just broken down into sections which are all linked to eachother, its just a matter of time of finding out what each of those areas contribute to your material, then boom, happiness! I'm not trying to sound condesending or "elitest" I'm simply just trying to steer someone in the right direction.
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Old Aug 05, 04
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A.)Pro Tools sounds tiney, and most DJ's are straight up infatuated over bass, lets be honest, even with the digi EQ's, you still don't get the bass response that it should have.......
Protools is used in every major studio in the world, do you think that would be the case if it sounded 'tiney'? The bass response in Protools is not better or worse than any other sequencing or audio editing program, the difference in most cases lies in the quality of pre amps and A to D converters which are found in the audio interface, not the software itself.

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B.)Logic's clock is (argueably) the best, thus making it an ideal choice for recording, no matter what the program material it is which you are getting to disc.
If you are talking about the word clock, which is the only kind of 'clock' that could possibly have an impact on audio recording, that is dependant not on the audio software but the quality of the wordclock in the audio interface you are using. And, yes, that is very important.

I'm not trying to knock Logic, I think it is a great program, but Logic and Protools have very different applications and I don't think the comparison is very valid. Also, Logic is definately the most complex sequencing program on the market, with the steepest learning curve. Telling someone who simply wants to record audio to use Logic is like telling them to use a studio console to mix some records...
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Old Aug 05, 04
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Telling someone who simply wants to record audio to use Logic is like telling them to use a studio console to mix some records...

This is so true, Besides you can always take your set into Logic AFTER and make it sound sik. You dont need logic to record a set. Pro Tools is actually a better choice because of its association with Live Sound. I like both programs too, but if its live its PT.
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Also, Logic is definately the most complex sequencing program on the market, with the steepest learning curve.
Erm - I agree with all of your points except this one.

A learning curve, by definition, details amount learned (Y) against time (X). If something takes a long time to learn, that means that time is longer and stuff learned is shorter, giving you a very gradual learning curve. A steep learning curve is a good thing, because you learn more in a shorter period of time.

The way to get around this is to say that Logic has a very difficult learning curve. :)

Agree with all your other points. Guy should be using Wavelab or Soundforge to record; anything else is overkill.
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Old Aug 05, 04
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Erm - I agree with all of your points except this one.

A learning curve, by definition, details amount learned (Y) against time (X). If something takes a long time to learn, that means that time is longer and stuff learned is shorter, giving you a very gradual learning curve. A steep learning curve is a good thing, because you learn more in a shorter period of time.

The way to get around this is to say that Logic has a very difficult learning curve. :)

Agree with all your other points. Guy should be using Wavelab or Soundforge to record; anything else is overkill.
True, and that's what I meant. Guess I just worded it wrong. I stand corrected. =)
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Old Aug 05, 04
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Ya I use protools and logic for totaly diffrent tasks. Any editing, recording, mastering i do in protools. Logic i would just use as a sequencer.

i dont know about you guys but for me Logic was a motherfucker to learn. I got the hang of protools very fast. Anyway E-magic is no longer making pc compatible versions of logic.

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Old Aug 05, 04
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I dunno, I just think, imo Logic sounds cleaner than pro tools, plus in order to get the full *ah hem* "Pro Tools Experience" a 001 is required, and I would never pay for an outboard sound card which basically only agrees with Pro Tools....I was thinking about getting a MOTU 828 and having the versatility of working within Logic, Cubase, Reason, and Sound Forge without any hastle.......Pro Tools is in every studio in the world because everyone knows it, why?....because its soo cutesy and easy, and imo, I don't like digi designs algorhythms.....If you have a program that does everything, why not take the time, learn it to exhaustion, and mix well? Pro Tools just doesn't do it for me, maybe if I have to record something SUPER quickly to disc, I'll use it, but other than that, I like having the sheer power and crystal clear audio quality which Logic 6 Pro has to offer, but I guess what it comes down to is personal preference, and that is totally cool.
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Old Aug 06, 04
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You obviously missed my point, but to be honest, I don't care enough to keep arguing or try to explain myself further... Later days.
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