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Sep 22, 04
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the proper name for the genre is drum funk or liquid funk. please refrain from using the terms house & dnb together, thanks :) 
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Sep 22, 04
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seriously though, you can't deny the house influence in HC's work... and he's gotta be considered one of the dopest things going in the genre..
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Sep 22, 04
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fucking rights. Seriously, a lot of stuff being released for the last couple of years hasn't done a whole lot to excite me (I was even pretty let down by the new-ish teebee) but I've always loved high contrast. And not putting house and dnb together ? Did Brazillian style DNB disappear off the face of the planet without my knowing ? :P
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Sep 22, 04
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Sep 22, 04
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i'm not denying the house influence in HC's tunes the overtones are obvious. however he's litteraly made a HUGE influence on the sound. just don't call it housey d'n'b for fuck sakes :)
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Sep 22, 04
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maybe to you. but thats the stupidest fucking thing i've ever heard so what constitutes dnbs high point? dark hard noise? probably if your definition is evol intent or tech itch for example i'm sure you're a good guy but your righteousness with dnb is so fucking stupid. you talk like you're the ultimate final say on the topic. but really you're far from it. in fact nobody has any say on this. it's art. anybody can have their own individual approach. if you disagree with me then i don't ever wanna talk to you in person
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Sep 22, 04
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Sep 22, 04
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^=)
you did offend me a bit because i live for the funky more musical sound. and from previous lil talks we've had about dnb on this thing its very clear we follow different sounds and different goals. you sound like a good guy but again when you dog on other styles other people might follow VERY passionately, then it just looks bad on you. but its all good buddy =)
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Sep 22, 04
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In my opinion for organizing my crate, i call dnb like this dancefloor, it can be funky, housey, vocal, brazillian blah blah blah but i just lump it together like that, i think of liquidfunk as being stuff like pacific - autofunk, some psidream stuff, subwave - highhopes etc etc.. just how i classify what i've heard to help me keep things organize in my brain haha, There's many ways to read into it!.
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Sep 22, 04
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in the case that there is too much woodwind or brasswind we'll call it: kenny g step. Last edited by C_squared; Sep 22, 04 at 11:12 AM.
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Sep 22, 04
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Kenny G step? Some of those New Identity "Jazz n' Bass" comps would cater to that for sure. I've totally focussed my efforts on liquid funk in the past, HIGH CONTRAST really kicked my ass when his tunes first started poppin up - AMEN SISTER & Fool's Gold are my fave HC tunes to date. Big emotional pieces of music, dope. Musicality is important in dnb, and HIGH CONTRAST is probably one of the few "liquid funk" dnb producers who can still hold my attention. 2step fluffy dnb is easy to spin - not a challenge at all - ... but i'm still listening for the good shit. No matter the style, i like deep sounds. Last edited by **TORMENT**; Sep 22, 04 at 12:49 PM.
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Sep 22, 04
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I've bought, explored and played every style, abstraction & subgenre of dnb/jungle music, etc. Still do. It is easy to think and hope that all 'hardcore' breakbeat music would be considered "dnb" at the end of the day, but there are seperate interests, influences, and audiences for those differences. I consider liquidfunk as a distinction unto itself in 2004. Some people do it really well. A good liquidfunk track is a craft unto itself. I don't think there is anything wrong with distinction of quality musics onto themselves. Regarless, the movement of the music is what is important. Make it move. Word? Last edited by **TORMENT**; Sep 22, 04 at 01:08 PM.
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Sep 22, 04
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i personally dont like to call liquid funk the way many people seem to classify it as. i will always define some tracks as housey, trancey, bhangraey, hindi, jazzy, whatever.
i just dont agree with names the general dnb heads classify music as. and the results show in the dnb parties. the music is fucking repulsive alot of the time.
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Sep 22, 04
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But that's what I'm saying. Regardless of what we say, whether you're new to the music or not, in 2004, there are seperate audiences for different takes on the music. I totally recognise that, I hate it too, but i recognise that.
As dj's who showcase the music, you can either play along, or present dnb as your own "unique" vision. Who gives a fuck what the market is telling you to do, or what's making easy $$ at any given time. There are seperate identities and politics within dnb, its a shame, but largely that is a reality. It picks my ass too, and i'm vocal in my disillusionment of it ( have ya noticed?), but that doesn't stop me of defining MY interest in the music as i would like to see it. I'm more interested in making movement within a music i love. Fuck everything else. : ) Anyway, that's not really the point - and sorry for the double post. Um... HIGH CONTRAST is aiight, hehe, and I"m looking forward to new music from him. Nothing wrong with a little dnb schmulch, huh? Bring on the hammond organs!! Last edited by **TORMENT**; Sep 22, 04 at 01:31 PM.
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Sep 22, 04
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But that's what I'm saying. Regardless of what we say, whether you're new to the music or not, in 2004, there are seperate audiences for different takes on the music. I totally recognise that, I hate it too, but i recognise that.
As dj's who showcase the music, you can either play along, or present dnb as your own "unique" vision. Who gives a fuck what the market is telling you to do. There are seperate identities and politics within dnb, its a shame, but largely that is a reality. It picks my ass too, and i'm vocal in my disillusionment of it, but that doesn't stop me of defining MY interest in the music as i would like to see it.
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Sep 22, 04
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I'm not making any $$ off my interest in the music ya know?, but i'll fight for what i believe in. Somebody has too. Haha. Load up the decks, just keep the music interesting, ya dig?
Regardless of what we say, there are distinctions and divisions within dnb audiences. I'd hope that wasn't the case, but ask any dj/producer/label etc. that are trying to break new musics, or promote dnb musics outside the obvious. Dnb music was set up like that. Its an industry that exists elsewhere. Its not our doing. As dj's and fans of the music, you can change all that if you wanted to. Anyway.... Music Is Everything nuff said. Last edited by **TORMENT**; Sep 22, 04 at 02:04 PM.
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