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Old Jan 03, 02
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Monitors

After stealing my parents speakers for many years now, the evil wrath of buying speakers for myslef has set in..


*Shakes head*

Obviously if i could afford it, i would buy some mackies, but those are way too pricey.

The reason i'm posting, is to ask y'all for some recommendations

Personal, or what ya read up on in some mag

it would be great to get soem feedback.


I'm looking to spend between 400-900 a speaker

Cheers in advance~
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Old Jan 03, 02
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I was looking at buying 5 Alesis monitors for my home theatre system 'hoping' they would sound better. I went out listening to various speakers for a couple of weeks and ended up buying Energy eXL's for my system.

Now I know your use may be different than mine, but I love music and like to have the best sounding speakers for the money.

For my car I ended up putting Dynaudio drivers because they were the best 'neutral sounding' speaker made IMO. I'd love to have Dyn's in my home but I can't afford them. The sick part is that the Dyn's in my car cost more than the mains and rear surrounds for my home!

Anyway, listen to everything, sort based on what sounds best to your ear, then select on price last.

That's it.

Just an aside, I don't think Mackie's sound that great for monitors.
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Old Jan 03, 02
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i do not use monitors other than when im spinning somewhere.


I have my setup, decks mixer hooked to computer, i have a 6 piece set of speakers for my computer. I put 2 speakers really really close to where i am spinning so i can here it perfectly, all it costs was 60 bux.


- SoniK
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Old Jan 05, 02
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for home use

I'd definitely recommend the setup I've got.

a midrange amplifier from a good brand bame with a circuit breaker (that's saved my amp many many many times) with some good towers and..

a 12inch self powered sub.

brand new the arrangment should cost you about $1100
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Old Jan 09, 02
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you don't really need a sub just for monitoring, just speakers with good, defined mids and highs. And if it's just a home setup, then you should definetly go for quality instead of power. 100 watts per channel of power would be way more than enough.

Go with powered speakers too if you can, They take alot less tweaking to make them sound good, since the built in amp is already preffy much perfectly calibrated for the speaker/cabinet. Most powered speakers have built in limiting too, for protection, so you won't have to worry about blowing them.

happy speaker hunting.
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My system:
2 Mini speakers, for high freq
2 larger ones with built in subs, perfect for lower freq
2 mid range ones, for mid range freq
home amp



150 watts
system cost: under 100 bux.

Garage sales

trust me

A mackie for your home system as a monitor wouldn't do any better then just home speakers (hell it might be worse).

save that money you have for monitors and buy a pionneer djm 600
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Old Jan 09, 02
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Tannoy Reveals..

After searching and comparing monitors all over the place..

from Event Trios, Alesis Mk1, Tannoy Reveals, Mackie Hr824, JBL etc..

I found you get more "bang for the buck" with the Tannoys..
under $500, with a modest frequencie respons of 50hz-20khz.. so with a decent sub bottoming at 18-20hz, you should be set, I know I am. I use this setup for production though.. but the clearer the sound, the better your going to mix.

Kyle
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Old Jan 09, 02
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Originally posted by NinjaBoy
My system:
2 Mini speakers, for high freq
2 larger ones with built in subs, perfect for lower freq
2 mid range ones, for mid range freq
home amp




ughh.... 3 sets of speakers???


that could cause hella phase cancellation, and end up sounding really messed up. I agree that home speakers do work just as well as pro monitors as far as a home system goes, but I personally wouldn't have 3 sets going at once. Besides all the phase cancellation that could happen between the three sets, the imedance load on the amp will be way too low. 3 pairs of speakers @ 8 ohms each, in parallel = 2 ohm load.

Most home amps are designed for 8 ohms or higher, sometimes down to 4. But NEVER 2 ohms, particularily not at high volumes.

for the electronically inept people: low speaker impedance = high current (LOTS of electric power) coming from amp = amp goes BOOM.
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Old Jan 10, 02
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Speakers are rated at 8ohms nominal (average). The impedance of the speaker changes with the frequency that it is outputting.

Most speakers can vary from 3 - 8 ohms depending on what is being played.
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Old Jan 10, 02
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Speakers are rated at 8ohms nominal (average). The impedance of the speaker changes with the frequency that it is outputting.

Most speakers can vary from 3 - 8 ohms depending on what is being played.
true, but still that doesn't change the fact that when you have 3 8 ohm fullrange speakers wired in parallel, the resulting impedance is going to be around a 3rd of whatever the average rating of them all is.

and that tends to wreak havoc on consumer amps.


I had a little 10 watt guitar amp that I plugged 2 other speakers into, along with its built in one, and after an hour of playing at high volume, the thing was fux0red.
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Old Jan 10, 02
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Originally posted by Rytalin


true, but still that doesn't change the fact that when you have 3 8 ohm fullrange speakers wired in parallel, the resulting impedance is going to be around a 3rd of whatever the average rating of them all is.

and that tends to wreak havoc on consumer amps.
This is true. I also agree that with you that having more speakers does not mean you have better sound, in fact you could be making more problems than you realize.

IMO, nothing beats a good pair of mains hooked up to a really good amp.
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Old Jan 10, 02
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You can always wire speakers switching between parallel and series if you're going to chain a lot of them together, that will keep the impedance about stable but it might vary the amount of power going to each speaker. Ideally there'd be a crossover and an amp for each pair but they don't usually sell decent PA hardware at most garage sales I know of...
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