So lets talk mixers.....

wikid · #1 (**permalink**) Jan 30, 05

Just wondering what everyones preferences were on their mixers. Im not asking for tips on pickin mixers or anything so dont stop at finances, whats the nicest/beautifulestnessness mixer you've ever seen or played with?

Odviously mixers depend on the style of moosic ur makin - but all the same.

I like the Rane Empath, not quite my favorite (not enough effects involved), but can definantly fine toon the sound nicely.

Alien and Heath Zone 62 dj mixer is also quite a nice peice of beaut. Havent tried this one - but sounds like it gives you nice control over the different aspects of the beat.

So......whats your mixer of choice

Moon · #2 (**permalink**) Jan 30, 05

wasnt there a thread about this yesterday?

~god~ · #3 (**permalink**) Jan 30, 05

I gots a ltd edition korg Kaoss. I loves it to death.

wikid · #4 (**permalink**) Jan 30, 05

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Originally Posted by k-pryde

wasnt there a thread about this yesterday?

Sort've, if your talking about Forwerds post - he was moreorless looking for options for when he buys his mixer.

Rather then only talking in financial terms - Im talking about daydreaming and showin some of the mixers that you have dreams about (and we all know you do ;)).

The Pioneer Pro djm 909 battle mixer is a beaut as well

dj_soo · #5 (**permalink**) Jan 30, 05

Until Alan & Heath can figure out how to incorporate faders that don't suck, I will still be calling the Rane Empath my ideal mixer. I do like the look of the new Technics mixer, but I've never tried it...

wikid · #6 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 05

^^^
Yeah thats one thing I noticed with the Alien mixers - the faders arent nearly as touchy as rane's are.

and Pioneer unfortuenly doesnt quite have the quality backing them up either tho.

Moon · #7 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 05

i'd be very happy with a djm 600, the new ecler, vestax pmc 55 or an allen and heath xone:62

i definetly need a change away from this crappy pmc06 i'm stuck with

dj_soo · #8 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 05

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Originally Posted by wikid

^^^
Yeah thats one thing I noticed with the Alien mixers - the faders arent nearly as touchy as rane's are.

and Pioneer unfortuenly doesnt quite have the quality backing them up either tho.

Well, Rane's are designed often with the scratcher in mind whereas Alan & Heaths are designed purely for mixing. If you never want to scratch, then A & H's are fine simply due to their great sound (although I still prefer the Rane in terms of sound quality). The *only* thing I don't like about the Empath is that they still use analogue Penny & Giles faders rather than the no-touch magnetic dealies that Rane has on their battle mixers (like the TTm54). Those things are like butter and last far longer than regular faders.

I'd like to try out the new Pioneer battle mixers just to see what the faders are like.

decypher · #9 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 05

The ecler runs external Magnetic crossfader. Sooo smooth, like butter, i like how they have High and Low level line inputs. The efx crossfader plus the adjustments u can make with the efx knobs can create some nice effects. The EQ knobs are nice a big, and i find the layout is non-restrictive and easy to use after a little practice.

wes · #10 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 05

A&H has fixed the crossfader on the xone92 it is by far the best mixer i have played on. If i had the money i would buy it right away, otherwise i love the empath. If i were to spend alot of money on a mixer it would be one of those.

G3N3R4L · #11 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 05

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Originally Posted by decypher

The ecler runs external Magnetic crossfader. Sooo smooth, like butter,

yeah ... the new 909 has magnetic contactless faders as well (=

Mr Ektion · #12 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 05

i just recently saw the 909 in use with Final Scratch (on an mac iBook) and it was craziness watching both the program and mixer spread it's wings. apparently the 909 is the prefered mixer by Jazzy Jeff. and that's cool with me.

Also, akeel posted a crazy pic of the djm1000 and that looks fucking nuts. I'm still a huge fan of the 600, but i don't get to see much more than what you guys post about. i work too damned much. COME ON!!! post about more!!

dj_soo · #13 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 05

well, the 909 and 707 (and the new Technic MZ1200) has "optical" faders as opposed to the "magnetic" faders that the Rane and Ecler have. What the difference is supposed to be is anyone's guess :).

klockwize · #14 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 05

ive owed a djm600 for almost 2 years now!

best mixer in the world....hands down!

Akeel · #15 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 05

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Originally Posted by dj_klockwize

ive owed a djm600 for almost 2 years now!

best mixer in the world....hands down!

it was two years ago....not anymore!

a good mixer well let you control all aspects of the beat. u know the beat. that u wanna control. with the mixer. beaut!

klockwize · #16 (**permalink**) Feb 02, 05

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Originally Posted by Akeel

it was two years ago....not anymore!

?????

angst · #17 (**permalink**) Feb 02, 05

Optical Faders

Optical crossfaders are a relatively new addition to the high-end mixer market. These are mostly implemented in VCA style circuit. An optical fader typically consists of an LED transmitter aimed at a photo-detector with a shutter that slides between the two. As the shutter blocks the light path the output of photo-detector's is changed. This control voltage is then sent to the VCAs as in the previous block diagram. The benefit of this design is the absence of physical contact between the shutter and the optics. This eliminates friction, wear and tear, and travel noise. These faders often have precision ball-bearings that offer extremely long life. There are cheap optical faders though. These use a photo-resistor in the detection circuit instead of a transistor or diode. The resistor designs respond slower to changes and they're fading profiles are not as repeatable with time and temperature.

Magnetic Faders

The design uses non-contact technology previously reserved for the most demanding aerospace and industrial applications. No travel noise -- no bleed -- ever.

Unlike optical non-contact faders, magnetic faders are impervious to smoke, moisture, temperature, ambient light and aging. (You know, only the stuff you run into at every club.) The electrical performance of the new fader is -- literally -- unaffected by use.

I use an Ecler HAK 360 - It's 2nd only to the Rane 56 as the best battle mixer on the market.

Akeel · #18 (**permalink**) Feb 02, 05

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Originally Posted by dj_klockwize

?????

with all the new mixers on the market now, the pioneer 600 is no where near the best...2 years ago..yes...now? not a chance.

soma · #19 (**permalink**) Feb 02, 05

didn't infared cross fader technology come out in 2000?

I was overseas at the time and didn;t really hear about the technology developing...

can anyone shead some light on this?

angst · #20 (**permalink**) Feb 02, 05

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Originally Posted by soma

didn't infared cross fader technology come out in 2000?

I was overseas at the time and didn;t really hear about the technology developing...

can anyone shead some light on this?

By infrared, do you mean optical? If you do, I believe Stanton was the first company to offer mixers with optical x-faders. I think it was the SK-2F, which featured Staton's "Focus" fader, designed with the help of DJ Focus.