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Old Apr 01, 05
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mp3 sound quality..

if you have a 64kbps mp3 is there anyway (with a program...) to re-record it (or something) and make it a higher bitrate
i know with an audio converter/recorder you can re-record it as a higher bitrate but does that actually change the quality to what you would have if you ripped it to 192 off a cd

quick follow up- whats VBR quality
VBR stands for...
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Old Apr 01, 05
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with a 64kbps (radio quality) i wouldnt bother to oversample its just to low a samplerate. VBR is Variable bit rate.
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VBR allows the codec to only give the file a higher kbps when it needs it, hopefully lowering file size due to lower average bitrate.

Resampling is poo
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Old Apr 01, 05
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Just remember the old "garbage in, garbage out" saying. Resamling a low quality mp3 ot a higher bitrate won't make it sound better. The ideal situation is to record at the highest bitrate possible, preferably wav, then convert it to the desired format (mp3, ogg, flac, etc).
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Old Apr 01, 05
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Mp3's sound like ass.
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ANGST knows what he's talkin about!!
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yea thanks i didnt think it would really work but buddys tellin me he has some album at 58kbps or something but hell record it to 192 cause i didnt want it at 58...
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yeah that won't work. once someone is retarted enough to record it at 58, all the soud quality is lost. and you can't get it back. HOWEVER, if it was an .ogg at say 77 kpbs or higher, that's about equivalent to a 128 mp3, which is as low as anyone should ever go. ogg's are the shit. of course, lossless encoding is obviously better, but they are not nearly as small.
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Old Apr 04, 05
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this VBR shit is whats been fucking up my data cds
sometimes tracks wont load/fastforwarding into the tracks can fuck up too, track times get misread
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At 192kbps it's going to be the exact same quality (possibly worse after re-encoding) as the 64kbps, just three times as large.
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Old Apr 14, 05
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can i record a VBR quality mp3 to a constant 192 bitrate or is that gonna fuck it up
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Old Apr 14, 05
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i think as long as you record it at the highest bitrate the vbr mp3 uses then it should be fine
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Old Apr 14, 05
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Get yourself a copy of Exact Audio Copy and the LAME encoder software and try making some MP3s from CDs. It's a slightly awkward program that takes a while to figure out, but it produces excellent results. I've ripped over a thousand MP3 files from CDs to VBR and they all sound exactly the same as the original WAV. The days of crappy-sounding MP3s are long gone, for anyone who puts a little effort into it.

The audiophile-recommended format is Alt Preset Standard because it has been extensively tested and uses about the same space as 192 CBR. There are 2 higher VBR bitrates but they have not been tested as much and they all sound the same (identical to WAV). Exact Audio Copy can also make CBR MP3s (Constant Bit Rate).

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can i record a VBR quality mp3 to a constant 192 bitrate or is that gonna fuck it up
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Down With Vbr!!!!!!
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