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Old Apr 04, 05
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Seattle djs

I may be trying to stir shit up but the only djs that have actually impressed me skillwise from seattle are Flave, Jakub, and Lil Miss Booty. Their whole scene seems 10 years behind. Most of the breakbeat djs that promoters bring in as "headliners" have really failed to impress me.

correct me if I am wrong.
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snap dude. thats some pretty heavy statements your making considering you OBVIOUSLY haven't heard any of Seattle's breaks DJ's in YEARS.

Dude... where is da Sonny Chiba, da Soulkid, da J Sharp (just played in canada on saturday night, at a BREAKS show...) Loki, also played at the sho.... Fenris, *ahem*PLAYED SHO*ahem*

These are just A FEW of the many MAD talented breaks DJs in seattle. Maybe you should try LISTENING to some of our DJs before just talking shit brotha...

besides... flave plays HAUZ MUSIK.

you think OUR scene is 10 years behind? maybe our club scene is a bit behind but its catchin up quickly... with new clubs like ELEMENT, and a brand new 3 club venue called TRINITY

but CERTAINLY not our party scene... our scene is jus as crackin as yours if not more. We don't have ONE party on a friday night, (sometimes yes we do..) but usually, its like 2-3 parties... and they are all diff...

i think our party scene is really on the up and up, for the moment, to tell you the truth...

when were you last here? when did u last go to a party here?
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They definately have way more support for solely DNB stages at parties, as well as way more DNB headliners going through.
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I'm going to have to agree with Ashes on this one. Personally I think the vancouver scene is MAD hurting right now, its always the same dj that plays the same set that they have been spinning for the last 5 shows. I could start naming those dj's but I won't. You cannot compare Vancouvers scene to Seattle's and even the Vancouver island scene. Sure you may say that seattle's scene is 10 years behind but you gotta be honest it was the funnest. They go original all out by holding up "raves" and not events that are held in a club.

Even when you look at Vancouver island, the scene out there is no where close to Vancouvers at all and the only thing that seperates the two is water. Its Vancouvers scene that needs to change. The only 2 events in bc that I consider as unique is apex and shambala. As per the rest they are pretty much the same, even the massive's nowdays. And even when it comes down to big names it seems like vancouver will only get the performer at the end of the barrel. Its funny when I look at some of these performers that have been through vancouver no where will you find within there tour that they will be stopping in vancouver. Perfect example is Armin Van Buuren. Supposively he is gonna be here on May 20th.... Thats interesting considering he has a performance in Chicago at Gods Kitchen on the same day that is listed for his tour dates but says nothing about Vancouver. So really Vancouver needs to change its style...
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snap dude. thats some pretty heavy statements your making considering you OBVIOUSLY haven't heard any of Seattle's breaks DJ's in YEARS.

Dude... where is da Sonny Chiba, da Soulkid, da J Sharp (just played in canada on saturday night, at a BREAKS show...) Loki, also played at the sho.... Fenris, *ahem*PLAYED SHO*ahem*

These are just A FEW of the many MAD talented breaks DJs in seattle. Maybe you should try LISTENING to some of our DJs before just talking shit brotha...

besides... flave plays HAUZ MUSIK.

you think OUR scene is 10 years behind? maybe our club scene is a bit behind but its catchin up quickly... with new clubs like ELEMENT, and a brand new 3 club venue called TRINITY

but CERTAINLY not our party scene... our scene is jus as crackin as yours if not more. We don't have ONE party on a friday night, (sometimes yes we do..) but usually, its like 2-3 parties... and they are all diff...

i think our party scene is really on the up and up, for the moment, to tell you the truth...

when were you last here? when did u last go to a party here?

You're right I should maybe do a bit of explaining before I run my mouth. To tell you the truth im basing my comments on the djs from seattle I have heard play in Vancouver.. Dj soulkid, Sonny Chiba I have heard play and haven't done much for me mind you its been a while since I have heard them. I know Flave plays house music, so does Jakub and thats why the thread is labled "seattle djs"

Vancouver is a shitty vibeless scene. But when it comes to music I would have to say were on top of our game. Even if most of the djs here are shit they still manage to rinse out really good tunes. I could care less about how much FUN there is or if everything is PLURRY I just want to hear good music and I know theres no need to go south to hear it. PS Armin van Shitter has been here like a hundred times I would be pleased to see him skip Vancouver for Chicago.
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i totally see where matt's coming from. there are lots of diverse parties/club nights up here that attract people from out of town to come to van to party (basing on headliners and locals). i personally haven't been lured to go down to seattle for any special talent.. maybe its because we usually share the same headliners, but even as locals. im a HUGE fan of flave.. but like ash said he plays house. im strictly talking breaks here, and is it just me or is house just taking over lately? the ratio of good house records vs breaks records coming out weekly makes me very very sad. im sure there are a few upcoming breaks talents from down south, but just speaking of right now, it doesn't seem like there is much lure for breaks heads to go down. and just like matt.. im basing my opinion on seattle djs that have played here in van.
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Old Apr 04, 05
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actually flave plays mix of house and breakz...


check his demo for those that are not sure...
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actually flave plays mix of house and breakz...


check his demo for those that are not sure...
PAUL himself specifies that he plays house. check with him to be sure.
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You're right I should maybe do a bit of explaining before I run my mouth. To tell you the truth im basing my comments on the djs from seattle I have heard play in Vancouver.. Dj soulkid, Sonny Chiba I have heard play and haven't done much for me mind you its been a while since I have heard them. I know Flave plays house music, so does Jakub and thats why the thread is labled "seattle djs"

Vancouver is a shitty vibeless scene. But when it comes to music I would have to say were on top of our game. Even if most of the djs here are shit they still manage to rinse out really good tunes. I could care less about how much FUN there is or if everything is PLURRY I just want to hear good music and I know theres no need to go south to hear it. PS Armin van Shitter has been here like a hundred times I would be pleased to see him skip Vancouver for Chicago.
The thread is labeled seattle djs because flave plays house? HUH. weird... Well you were talking about BREAKbeats my friend, so it was a bit confusing.

Well if you haven't heard them in "a while" how can you make any statements about what their sound is even like. Electronic music of ALL genres is changing the fastest, so I would harldy say you could judge ANY DJ on what they sounded like "a while" ago.

Secondly, you didn't answer my question. When was the last party you went to in seattle. When was the last club night? Cuz our scene has been going through some serious evolution, and so, if you haven't been lately, all of the statements you are making are completely invalidated.

This isn't at all about PLUR or FUN. PS- where was digweed? He didn't come to vancouver?

And hey, we may have the same headliners alot of times... but are the beats all about popularity to you? I mean SERIOUSLY, i know locals that have MAD more skills than some BLiNG BLiNG headliner from wherever. If you are so close minded as to think that Seattle beats and VAN beats are the same, ur missing out dude. We have alotta diff sounds that you don't have. And vice versa. That's why i go to van, to get a taste of what the real sound of the area is like, not to get a taste of the same headliner i saw the night before.
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bahahahaha. IT WAS A JOKE brotha. calm the FUCK down.
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wow, breaks djs can sound different?
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does lil ms booty still play out?
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wow, breaks djs can sound different?
*giggle* SHOCKING yes i know... but its tru.

And how can you say that you have so much diversity of music when most of the music there is EXTREMELY similar sounding? Like take breaks for example, most of the breaks up there are like heavy, dirty, grungy sounding shit (which i love btw) but you have like no florida breaks sounds up there to speak of.

It's just a small example of what I'm talking about. Also, I think our parties are alot more diverse in general. We don't have just breaks and drumnbass shows... or just trance shows, or just hauz shows... we have a trance and house stage, with a sideroom of breaks and dnb... most parties in seattle have a big range of diff music stylz.
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Perfect example is Armin Van Buuren. Supposively he is gonna be here on May 20th.... Thats interesting considering he has a performance in Chicago at Gods Kitchen on the same day that is listed for his tour dates but says nothing about Vancouver.
Please do not go running your mouth stating examples you have no fact on.

That is a typo on his website which is in the process of being changed. Numerous times we (Twisted) have started and booked the Armin tours. I could list all of the other DJ's we have brought to Vancouver first across multiple genres but why bother.
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Well if you haven't heard them in "a while" how can you make any statements about what their sound is even like. Electronic music of ALL genres is changing the fastest, so I would harldy say you could judge ANY DJ on what they sounded like "a while" ago.
Electronic music changes but most djs that have been in it for a while usually dont. But you do have a point I should wait to hear before I pass judgement.

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Secondly, you didn't answer my question. When was the last party you went to in seattle. When was the last club night? Cuz our scene has been going through some serious evolution, and so, if you haven't been lately, all of the statements you are making are completely invalidated.
The last rave was years ago. I have never been to a clubnight in seattle. Most comments are based on Vancity djs telling me they had to play really cheesey tunes to seattle kids or they would'nt dance. That and most seattle djs coming here and playing really weak shit. Evolution spevolution anything that needs an Evolution is obviously behind.

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This isn't at all about PLUR or FUN. PS- where was digweed? He didn't come to vancouver?
Digweed? Can you comprehend how many big name progressive acts that have come to Vancouver the past two years.

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And hey, we may have the same headliners alot of times... but are the beats all about popularity to you? I mean SERIOUSLY, i know locals that have MAD more skills than some BLiNG BLiNG headliner from wherever. If you are so close minded as to think that Seattle beats and VAN beats are the same, ur missing out dude. We have alotta diff sounds that you don't have. And vice versa. That's why i go to van, to get a taste of what the real sound of the area is like, not to get a taste of the same headliner i saw the night before.
I don't really get what you're sayin hurr.

I can't say anything about trance headliners but as for breaks headliners promoters are constantly bringing in different names from around the world. Breakfaztaz, Baobinga, Kid kenobi, and more just this week.

Anyways I WIN! in fact I MAD win.
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PAUL himself specifies that he plays house. check with him to be sure.
i heard him play at deep 3 weeks ago, personally heard him play breakz and house.. not trippin.. was 100% sober when i was standing next to him, mykee, and christoph ...


just remember that djs dont specificly play house only, if their genre is house... most of djs play different things for fun.. am i wrong?
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Yes, baobinga? He played at my private afterhours club last week, before he went to vancouver, as well as on the radio 89.5 and at a party at the catwalk.

Breakfastaz? Didn't have em this time, but I have a feeling soon.

You win? Im sorry I wasn't aware this was a competition...

You do realize of course, that the reason they say that they had to play "cheesy" stuff, is the same reason seatown dj's coming back from canada, say that they had to play only their "hard" stuff...

this is EXACTLY what i was talking about. People up there want to hear grungy shit, just as much as people down here want to hear "cheezy" shit. It's only cheezy, ... Because its DIFFERENT.

Do you see what I'm saying.
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*giggle* SHOCKING yes i know... but its tru.

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And how can you say that you have so much diversity of music when most of the music there is EXTREMELY similar sounding?
I never said that.
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but you have like no florida breaks sounds up there to speak of.
this is probably the number one reason your breaks djs lack. Theres a reason why Florida breaks are only played in the United States. There is not another place in the world where you will hear that shit.

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It's just a small example of what I'm talking about. Also, I think our parties are alot more diverse in general. We don't have just breaks and drumnbass shows... or just trance shows, or just hauz shows... we have a trance and house stage, with a sideroom of breaks and dnb... most parties in seattle have a big range of diff music stylz.
thats because its a cashgrab. The more music the more people. :)
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In response to a few coments made about specific headliners that don't hit Vancouver...

This could be for a multitude of reasons:

1.) The promoter(s) in the area may very well have turned down the show. Keep in mind our two scenes and the music preference of those in Van vs. Seattle are different. One headliner may sell out a show in Seattle but not in Vancouver.

2.) Sometimes headliners can only do so many cities because of lack of time. It's a first come, first serve basis especially when doing a West or East coast tour.

I think it's a load of BS to say that Vancouver is not on the map in DJ's or headlining acts minds. Having just personally attended the WMC in Miami and spoken to numerous headliners of every genre and their agents, ALL of them have said how much they love Vancouver, love the people and want to come back as soon as possible or want to come here in general.
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and i would have to agree with Matty, that djs that i have heard play in vancouver so far have a little outdated track selections.....


but that doesnt make them bad djs...
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i heard him play at deep 3 weeks ago, personally heard him play breakz and house.. not trippin.. was 100% sober when i was standing next to him, mykee, and christoph ...


just remember that djs dont specificly play house only, if their genre is house... most of djs play different things for fun.. am i wrong?
Although Flave's primary genre of choice is House, he plays what he wants to play and based on where he's playing, a flavour of what the crowd wants to hear. -- That in combination with his mastering of the Pioneer 600 and his energy behind the decks makes it a Flave set!
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AGREED!

2 different cities = 2 different crowds = 2 completly different people liking completely different styles of music


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In response to a few coments made about specific headliners that don't hit Vancouver...

This could be for a multitude of reasons:

1.) The promoter(s) in the area may very well have turned down the show. Keep in mind our two scenes and the music preference of those in Van vs. Seattle are different. One headliner may sell out a show in Seattle but not in Vancouver.

2.) Sometimes headliners can only do so many cities because of lack of time. It's a first come, first serve basis especially when doing a West or East coast tour.

I think it's a load of BS to say that Vancouver is not on the map in DJ's or headlining acts minds. Having just personally attended the WMC in Miami and spoken to numerous headliners of every genre and their agents, ALL of them have said how much they love Vancouver, love the people and want to come back as soon as possible or want to come here in general.
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I never said that.

this is probably the number one reason your breaks djs lack. Theres a reason why Florida breaks are only played in the United States. There is not another place in the world where you will hear that shit.



thats because its a cashgrab. The more music the more people. :)
alright well it was JUST AN EXAMPLE mmk? yeah. And dude, i don't even LIKE florida breaks myself, okay? I was simply using it as ONE type of breaks that doesn't get played out in canada at all. And i seriously doubt that the states is the SOLE player of said breaks.

It's not just a "Cashgrab" It's because we like to hear MAD diff music at our parties.

Whatevs though dude, you are making these statements based on information you have NEVER gathered. you have NEVER been to a club night, so obviously you don't follow who is coming here, and what's getting played out.

And you haven't been to a party in how long? well... I don't think you can make any judgements about our parties then either.

And due to these above facts... I find it difficult for there to be any validity seen in your comments re:seatown djs.

you dont hear their music, you dont go to shows, so how the hell can you know about ANY of it?
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AGREED!

2 different cities = 2 different crowds = 2 completly different people liking completely different styles of music
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