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Old Apr 05, 05
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So what the hell is a double drop anyways?

I hear about em everywhere and how absolutely phatteningly sick they are.


Someone wanna shed some light on this?

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Old Apr 05, 05
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assuming you know what a drop is (the part of the tune where it builds up, and then "drops") a double (or triple) drop is when two tracks are mixed so that they build together, and drop at exactly the same time.
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Old Apr 06, 05
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hmm never heard that term before
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Old Apr 06, 05
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although you can probably do it in any electronic mixable genre, the term only seems to exist in dnb for some reason...
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Old Apr 06, 05
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ive done it in both my first day of school demo and also lunch breaks demo...

i never knew there was a name for it till now heh
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Old Apr 06, 05
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ive done it in both my first day of school demo and also lunch breaks demo...

i never knew there was a name for it till now heh
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Old Apr 06, 05
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^ it's really not that hard to do. The only thing challenging about it is if you fuck up, it sounds like shit.

there's way too much empahsis placed on the double-drop in the jungle scene imo.
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Old Apr 06, 05
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^ it's really not that hard to do. The only thing challenging about it is if you fuck up, it sounds like shit.

there's way too much empahsis placed on the double-drop in the jungle scene imo.
i guess i need to get out more now. i don't think i've ever seen another dnb dj in vancouver pull off a double drop live

i personally enourage it. every mix doesnt have to be a double drop but dd's here and there are really fun to watch when theyre done really well. i'm also surprised it took so long for dj's to start seeing the big deal about double drops.

i think making a dd sound really dope takes a good ear for matching keys, and matching "vibes". your beatmatching needs to be VERY solid as well. doing dd's just for the sake of doing them can sound pretty shitty and boring. the anticipation for a siiick and different drop from a track you know is pretty exciting. when the keys mix and the idea behind it shines alot of creativity, it blows people away for sure. double drops can be so epic it's awesome. it's a great tool to separate the creativity of the dj from the producer.
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Old Apr 06, 05
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^ you don't get out enough. I don't think I've ever seen you at a dnb weekly

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when the keys mix and the idea behind it shines alot of creativity, it blows people away for sure. double drops can be so epic it's awesome. it's a great tool to separate the creativity of the dj from the producer.
Everything you said there applys to any form of mix or blend.

yea, dds are hard with particular tracks (i.e. no beats in the breaks) but honestly, too many people put too much emphasis on the concept. It's something everyone should learn and it's something everyone should have in their arsenal, but it's not the be-all end-all of mixing

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Old Apr 06, 05
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^^^ yeah no doubt.. i have never even met him!!
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Old Apr 06, 05
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Just another way of mixing, theres only really been like a couple double drops that i really liked, i.e when stu did bacteria rmx with cyclone. that sounded killer cuz of how the synths carried each other.

I can understand though, why some love em and some yawn at em. Sometimes they sound like shit, and it's not like it is something anyone with some creativity and some time can't achieve.

Everything and Anything on the 1s and 2s have been done again and again. I'm more interested in live PA with DNB, like this video of future prophecies live that i recently saw. Im gonna try and do something like that but with a guitar and a sampler to add fills and samples. I like how Illesha incorporates keyboards and such into her live sound. great stuff!
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i probably do a double drop just by random every couple of times i play. and maybe 1 in 5 sounds better than the others, so i remember it and redo it later...
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Old Apr 06, 05
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^ you don't get out enough. I don't think I've ever seen you at a dnb weekly



Everything you said there applys to any form of mix or blend.

yea, dds are hard with particular tracks (i.e. no beats in the breaks) but honestly, too many people put too much emphasis on the concept. It's something everyone should learn and it's something everyone should have in their arsenal, but it's not the be-all end-all of mixing
yeah my school schedule has been lame since i started going to school again in 2002. i definetly need to hit up automatic again regularly to see what all you cats are pulling off! babytraits i definetly wanna meet you and see ya spin sometime! =) heard from toby that you rinse out the "dope shit". haha

but i see your point about people seeing double drops as the highest potential in dnb. as for what i said being applicable to any form of mix or blend, true i guess. but i looooove double drops. in dance music it's ALL about the drops! they bring such a rush and sweet energy to initialize tha dance!! the big double drops of a new bassline and the combination of sounds that go so well with each other... such a great thing. i love epic shit. and not that many djs can compose themselves to beatmatch that flawlessly live so thats definetly an indication of some next level shit.

i tried doing a triple drop... man it's fuckin hard. i wouldnt be surprised if andy c pressed his dubplates at the same bpm. bastard.
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Old Apr 08, 05
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Just another way of mixing, theres only really been like a couple double drops that i really liked, i.e when stu did bacteria rmx with cyclone. that sounded killer cuz of how the synths carried each other.

I can understand though, why some love em and some yawn at em. Sometimes they sound like shit, and it's not like it is something anyone with some creativity and some time can't achieve.

Everything and Anything on the 1s and 2s have been done again and again. I'm more interested in live PA with DNB, like this video of future prophecies live that i recently saw. Im gonna try and do something like that but with a guitar and a sampler to add fills and samples. I like how Illesha incorporates keyboards and such into her live sound. great stuff!
dude?! what the fuck? I did a double drop on my lastest mix with Cyclone too!...dude whats up with ppl coming up with the same mixes....it's starting to cramp my style....considering I came up with it myself too....and Yes..it sounds sick together.
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Old Apr 08, 05
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NightLife 2

Andy C's NightLife 2 is the definition of Double Drops. Like 25 out of 28 mixes on that CD is a Double drop. Which brings the overall intensity of the CD through the fuckin' roof.
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Old Apr 08, 05
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yeah my school schedule has been lame since i started going to school again in 2002. i definetly need to hit up automatic again regularly to see what all you cats are pulling off! babytraits i definetly wanna meet you and see ya spin sometime! =) heard from toby that you rinse out the "dope shit". haha

but i see your point about people seeing double drops as the highest potential in dnb. as for what i said being applicable to any form of mix or blend, true i guess. but i looooove double drops. in dance music it's ALL about the drops! they bring such a rush and sweet energy to initialize tha dance!! the big double drops of a new bassline and the combination of sounds that go so well with each other... such a great thing. i love epic shit. and not that many djs can compose themselves to beatmatch that flawlessly live so thats definetly an indication of some next level shit.

i tried doing a triple drop... man it's fuckin hard. i wouldnt be surprised if andy c pressed his dubplates at the same bpm. bastard.
I find alot of Ram, Breakbeat Kaos, and Virus shit are around the same BPM, it's great, especially for fast cue ups and quick fade ins. I'm all about cueing up once and fading in after 16 beats...no longer than 32 of course.
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dude?! what the fuck? I did a double drop on my lastest mix with Cyclone too!...dude whats up with ppl coming up with the same mixes....it's starting to cramp my style....considering I came up with it myself too....and Yes..it sounds sick together.
It means you're not as original as you thought.

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Old Apr 08, 05
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It means you're not as original as you thought.

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Old Apr 08, 05
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^did you delete that pop quiz thread? haha i was lookin for the other thread which i coulda sworn you started which appears to have been deleted as well!
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Old Apr 08, 05
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uh, no.

I deleted it cuz you guys said someone else posted it already....not me. Look for that one Detective. Get your shit straight.

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Old Apr 09, 05
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haha whoa take it easy don't have you get your knickers in a twist
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Old Apr 09, 05
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it was just a harsh repost, cause it was done like one day ago. i was drunk, so don't mind me if i came across a little harsh.
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Old Apr 13, 05
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No,no...I was annoyed at the time, but it's cool.

Respect, booyah.
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