i've done it!! (dnb djs look here)

[amanda rude]

Originally Posted by C_squared

The hardest thing about playing drum & bass is getting booked.

I just don't understand!

I love dnb ;)

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by ppcock

so how do you do it?
its impossible to get both tracks going at the same time with all EQ in the middle and have it sound good
There's a lot of sampling that i've done.. then when theres ambience, i'll throw on the bass drum from the other track, turn the bass off on the other and leave the highs going at a noticeable volume.

is this proper?

it's pretty much the same as mixing anything else only faster so it's easier to tell when you're going out of phase.

As far as EQs go, I generally adjust bass the most and rarely touch the mids and the highs much unless i'm going for some sort of filter sound or the highs on a particular tune are too blaring. Rarely do I want both tracks at full EQ settings at the same time cause it'll be too much bass going unless I find that *perfect* mix of basslines that play off each other. I usually cut the bass for the track being mixed in and then find a suitable place to switch up the basslines. The bass is probably going to be the most defining part of most dnb tracks so those are the EQs i fuck with the most either flipping from one bassline to the next or dropping the mixing bassline after a build from the previous track. Doing quick x-fader cuts while in the mix also sounds particularly nice with dnb especially when you're mixing 2 tunes with differnet break patterns

Note that this is just what I do - there's not really a "proper" way to mix anything so long as it sounds good I think.

Also, the grand majority of dnb is all very formulaic and fits together like lego. If you're counting bars at 180 bpm, the phrases generally come together in intervals of 16 bars so just mix around with that and you'll probably get some pleasing results.

[C_squared]

Originally Posted by rude1

I just don't understand!

I love dnb ;)

If you were c_squared you'd get the 10-4.

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by rude1

I just don't understand!

I love dnb ;)

classic case of too many DJs in the scene and not enough punters to support them all...

[sNyx]

Originally Posted by ppcock

6 dnb records are now in my collection and it will grow next, next payday.

I figured i like Jumpstep (???) pounding, dark and full of bass drums

so please.. please recommend me some tracks!

I got a small dir for ya

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Originally Posted by ppcock

so how do you do it?
its impossible to get both tracks going at the same time with all EQ in the middle and have it sound good
There's a lot of sampling that i've done.. then when theres ambience, i'll throw on the bass drum from the other track, turn the bass off on the other and leave the highs going at a noticeable volume.

is this proper?

Why would you leave the treble down? you wouldn't even be able to hear the track on a loud system...I'm all about crisp sound. I like a nice combination of clarity and thundering bass. Are you new to spinning? kinda sounds like it....No offence by any means...when you say Ambience...do you mean a break down? the way you're describing that mixing don't sound very clean or measured proper...

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

it's pretty much the same as mixing anything else only faster so it's easier to tell when you're going out of phase.

As far as EQs go, I generally adjust bass the most and rarely touch the mids and the highs much unless i'm going for some sort of filter sound or the highs on a particular tune are too blaring. Rarely do I want both tracks at full EQ settings at the same time cause it'll be too much bass going unless I find that *perfect* mix of basslines that play off each other. I usually cut the bass for the track being mixed in and then find a suitable place to switch up the basslines. The bass is probably going to be the most defining part of most dnb tracks so those are the EQs i fuck with the most either flipping from one bassline to the next or dropping the mixing bassline after a build from the previous track. Doing quick x-fader cuts while in the mix also sounds particularly nice with dnb especially when you're mixing 2 tunes with differnet break patterns

Note that this is just what I do - there's not really a "proper" way to mix anything so long as it sounds good I think.

Also, the grand majority of dnb is all very formulaic and fits together like lego. If you're counting bars at 180 bpm, the phrases generally come together in intervals of 16 bars so just mix around with that and you'll probably get some pleasing results.

That's a pretty good summary there...but one thing.... there is definately a proper way to mix, like with counting the beats and cueing up at proper points...personally...If I missed a cue point on a sick mix...(like a double drop or a proper quick cut)...I would be basically fucked...and would have to wait past the second break down to cue up....

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by Toxxin Ephekt

That's a pretty good summary there...but one thing.... there is definately a proper way to mix, like with counting the beats and cueing up at proper points...personally...If I missed a cue point on a sick mix...(like a double drop or a proper quick cut)...I would be basically fucked...and would have to wait past the second break down to cue up....

meh - unless it's a tune with extra bars here and there, as long as you stick to the 16 bar formula, you're fine. May sound better if you cue in certain places, but you're never really "fucked" with dnb unless you mix really slowly and can't beatmatch.

Like I said: fits together like lego.

[Toxxin Ephekt]

If you were a perfectionist like me you would consider yourself fucked...hehe, obviously I think cueing up too early is better than too late....

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by Toxxin Ephekt

Why would you leave the treble down? you wouldn't even be able to hear the track on a loud system...I'm all about crisp sound. I like a nice combination of clarity and thundering bass. Are you new to spinning? kinda sounds like it....No offence by any means...when you say Ambience...do you mean a break down? the way you're describing that mixing don't sound very clean or measured proper...

i've been a trance and techno dj for the last 6 years.. pretty new to dnb

[dj_soo]

yea but you never know what could happen in a live performance - needles could skip, someone could bump the booth - best to not worry too much and just recover fast :). Yea, if I had a really good mix figured like a good double drop or double break or something, i'd be annoyed, but might as well not let it bother you too much and keep spinning :)

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

meh - unless it's a tune with extra bars here and there, as long as you stick to the 16 bar formula, you're fine. May sound better if you cue in certain places, but you're never really "fucked" with dnb unless you mix really slowly and can't beatmatch.

Like I said: fits together like lego.

I'm all about making all my mixes sound sick ( don't we all? ) all with a certain cue point, Like I said, Example...If I were planning to do a double drop and I missed my cue point...Obviously....That mix is blown...and you would have to do something else instead...I think knowing all your cue points to all your mixes should be mandatory with being a good Dj...What kinda good Dj don't know how to cue their mixes properly? If he didn't....he doesn't deserved to be called "good".

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

yea but you never know what could happen in a live performance - needles could skip, someone could bump the booth - best to not worry too much and just recover fast :). Yea, if I had a really good mix figured like a good double drop or double break or something, i'd be annoyed, but might as well not let it bother you too much and keep spinning :)

Yeah, but some times...to recover, you would have to wait past the second break down...to sound clean anyways....

[dj_soo]

yea but then you run the risk of planning out your sets right down to the cue point and when spinning for a crowd you have to be able to read them and adjust to what they want to hear.

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by Toxxin Ephekt

Yeah, but some times...to recover, you would have to wait past the second break down...to sound clean anyways....

ok how bout this - if you don't want the mixing-in beat to come through during the break of the mixing-out record, you can do things like cut it entirely during the break but let it stay beatmatched.

Things i like to do is cut it mixing-in during the break but occasionally bring the kick drum or snare in with the levels as an emphasis... or you can leave the mix-in track playing with the bass cut and bring in the bass every downbeat or other things.

you don't need to be going for a double drop everytime you mix a record :)

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

yea but you never know what could happen in a live performance - needles could skip, someone could bump the booth - best to not worry too much and just recover fast :). Yea, if I had a really good mix figured like a good double drop or double break or something, i'd be annoyed, but might as well not let it bother you too much and keep spinning :)

haha, this reminds me this one time, my buddy was intro-ing his set at some rave and he was doing a accappella remix over a 2 step break,anyways... he was so proud of this mix and when it was time...the needle skipped on the accapella like a few bars into it...blowing the whole mix....ouch...I woulda been just as choked....hehe

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

ok how bout this - if you don't want the mixing-in beat to come through during the break of the mixing-out record, you can do things like cut it entirely during the break but let it stay beatmatched.

Things i like to do is cut it mixing-in during the break but occasionally bring the kick drum or snare in with the levels as an emphasis... or you can leave the mix-in track playing with the bass cut and bring in the bass every downbeat or other things.

you don't need to be going for a double drop everytime you mix a record :)

haha, of course you can do that!, and cut it right back in when the first record drops again on the 1, or slowly fade it in right before the drop...haha...yeah...that is another way to recover, if you didn't feel like re-cueing...haha

[decypher]

Yeh alot of producers throw shakers and such in the breakdown so that u can cue up and have it beatmatched before the drop. This can be very convenient, with some interesting results.

and Wayne, i think you should just have sex with Andy C and get it over already ;)

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Originally Posted by decypher

Yeh alot of producers throw shakers and such in the breakdown so that u can cue up and have it beatmatched before the drop. This can be very convenient, with some interesting results.

and Wayne, i think you should just have sex with Andy C and get it over already ;)

Hahaha, I love Andy.

[cinist]

:::)..

[Mad]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

yea but then you run the risk of planning out your sets right down to the cue point and when spinning for a crowd you have to be able to read them and adjust to what they want to hear.

Luckily my poetic MCing would mask any faults you'd make T.