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Recording Arts Education

Hey guys, so I've been seriously considering going into a Recording Arts program for school. There are just a few things I am not sure about. The answers to these questions would help me alot in deciding my path.

- What is the best Recording Arts program to take in the Vancouver area, like which college? My buddy goes to the Arts Institute and raves about it, but i think his opinion may be slightly biased.

- If you have taken one of these programs, do you feel it was worth it? Or can these skills be learned from books and/or other more cost/time effective methods?

I'd really appreciate any input, please and thanks alot folks!
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Old Jan 20, 06
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i go to Vancouver Film School Sound Design.
the program's sweet.
there are intensive recording classes within the program. plus, protools is the industry standard recording base. VFS is one of the only schools that gives you digidesign certificate. and honestly, eversince day one, we've been on PT..
i now know it front and backwards.

book an evening with a rep at the 1380 Burrard campus, and he'll show you around.
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http://www.hotsole.com/ <-- click "AEP".

learn about working in a studio by working in a studio. max three students per semester. IMHO that blows away any of the "audio schools" around town.

probably there's a waiting list.
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Old Jan 20, 06
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I attended the CDIS recording arts program in 2001 it was very indebth and you got access to great studios, the latest gear, and industry instructors.

Saying that the tution that went along with it was huge and had my interests been more focused I could have bought my own gear and taught myself for the price I paid.

make sure you know what you want to do with your education and that will help you deside where to go.
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im in the pro recording arts program at Ai right now, and its great and very in depth, but be prepared for a lot of post production and alot of debt! but u learn basically anything u need to know about audio, and have access to some great gear, and its open 24/7.
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What are you looking to get out of it?
(ie: are you looking at getting work afterwards or just improve your skills so you can work on your own material)

What skills do you want to learn/develope?

These are both important questions when it comes to making decisions about this sort of thing.
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around 2000 i looked deeply into all programs from all the schools now, im my opinion i think there a good value to give you experince on the big boards...but the big boards are redundant now. learn your freq ranges and how to mix in the box properly and your set. as far as mic placing?....books are a good guidline but if you have your own gear to play wiht youll discover tequniqes that will work for you.

BUT!

what i reccomend is you INVEST the 12,000 a year for tuition into your own set up.

invest in your OWN gear
INVEST IN YOUR OWN GEAR!......

teach yourself as you go....when its time to mix out pump the staff engineers at whatever studio your at for info and advice.

the money i saved i spent on my own equipment and enrolled at the enineering school at douglas college under greg reid. from aduio 1-6

was the best chioce i could have ever made.

im not in any debt.
i have a rock solid knowledge base.
and have my own full set up wich earns me money from time to time depening on the project im working on....wich is mostly voice recordings for radio and demos for young hip hop and punk kids.
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**oh and the only school i would ever look twice at is the sound desing program at VFS....
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I'd say save your cash and take some courses that will get you a job for sure, cause studios don't hire that many people every year, if any. I think it's best to learn on your own. Better to spend the cash on a decent setup, and courses to get a "real" job, so you can put more money into your setup.

VFS is so fucking expensive. I checked it out and it was close to 30grand for the year. It would probly get you the best and most diverse portfolio. One thing about VFS that I didn't dig was the fact that they didn't teach the Kyma System. It may have change since last year. You would think for that kind of tuition that they would be into the latest kit.

Get a haircut, and get a real job=P
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alright thanks alot everybody, wikkid comments. This has given me a bit more to think about..

I'm interested in studying recording arts mainly because I want to learn how to mix, and master properly, learn some valuable things that will help me create professional sounding finished tracks .
It also interests me because the work environment seems like one i could tolerate. What worries me like thump666 suggested is the likelyhood of getting immediate work in the field. Do these courses give me what i need to get a job that i can live off of?

I would like to learn skills to produce music of higher quality. But what is of most importance to me at the moment is getting a job that will allow me to live comfortably, and one that will challenge me creatively day to day. Getting some sort of creative (not necessarily music related) day job would work for me, as i could pursue my music on the side.
at the moment these are the careers i've got my heart set on.
-audio engineer
-screenwriter
-actor

I'm leaning towards getting education for audio engineering because it seems a bit more of a stable/sure thing when it comes right down to getting immediate work ( compared to acting or screenwriting).

I was also wondering, what is the likelyhood of an engineer/worker in the music industry pursuing songwriting on the side? If this engineering job is one that would consume all my time so that i had none to actually MAKE music , it's probably not something I want....
thanks for yer help guys
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Old Jan 21, 06
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I'd say save your cash and take some courses that will get you a job for sure, cause studios don't hire that many people every year, if any. I think it's best to learn on your own. Better to spend the cash on a decent setup, and courses to get a "real" job, so you can put more money into your setup.

VFS is so fucking expensive. I checked it out and it was close to 30grand for the year. It would probly get you the best and most diverse portfolio. One thing about VFS that I didn't dig was the fact that they didn't teach the Kyma System. It may have change since last year. You would think for that kind of tuition that they would be into the latest kit.

Get a haircut, and get a real job=P

they're working on it. we do get a brief intro, and they are buying one as soon as one of the teachers can convince admin! hehe....
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