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Old Oct 09, 01
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WickedNoizeparty

December 8th
Elitest By Nature Productions Presents

WickedNoizeparty

With:

Acid techno, hardcore, Noize, Happy Hardcore and whatever else we can get together

Also, it's in the works to get an ambient room going with, chill music and acid jazz

More details to come

Tickets will be 4.99
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Old Oct 09, 01
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I think that the basis of this party is TOTALLY lame.

Read some of the posts and you'll see what I mean. This party is only being thrown to bash Wickedhouseparty. It's one thing to personally not like another production company. It's another thing to set out and fuck with them personally. A lot of hard work is being put into our party and I find it totally sad to see you guys do this. I really don't give two shits if you throw a party on the same date, but to call it WickedNoiseParty and price it $4.99? Your intent is quite clear and I find that extremely shallow.

I totally have respect for honest, hard working promoters. Ones that aren't out there to screw over the party kids or other production companies. I have absolutely no respect whatsoever for Elitest By Nature Productions and I think it's really sad if anybody feels any different.

Don't support a production company that is out there to fuck around with other people's hard work.

Erica :AZN:
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Old Oct 09, 01
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yeah i totally dont see the point of this.......throwing a party just to spite someone is total bullshit.
-adam
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Old Oct 09, 01
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I think the $4.99 thing is lame...totally lame

Wait a minute...I do like that concept I'm gonna use it for now on

Wait a minute, I've used $4.99 before

wait a minute...I think I was the first to ever use the $_.99 cent thing

Must be a co-incidence eh guys?

Not that I own it or anything, but I'm sure you guys are more creative than that

AGROout
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Old Oct 09, 01
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Lame Guys

Very lame... Very lame.

To try to polarize the rave scene is to violate everything in PLUR.

Peace - not a peacful gesture by any means
Love - Not very loving at all
Unity - You are trying to polarize the scene
Respect - Not respectful at all

Lame. Very lame.
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Old Oct 09, 01
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a rave that is new, exciting, cheap and cheeky?

all over it.

fuck all the people who take it too seriously. you're more progressive then they will ever be.

back to the roots yaw'll, can't wait to see the people who show up thinking they're going to a completely different show.

r.
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Old Oct 09, 01
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Bwha ha ha!

You think we did this to spite kris?

Uh, no. It happens to be the day we can get the venue.

The price was orginaly 5 bux, same day.

we used the name cause quite frankly we're unorginal.

Agrodave:

Um, If you think that this is a copy of what you've done, it's not.

LETS FACE IT:

Anybody who is going to your party will not go to ours.

Your party plays: Nu-nrg, jungle, breaks and what not

Ours plays: Noize, Techno, hardcore, happy hardcore.

Stay tuned: January, Elitest by Nature, presents: Jungle Warfare
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Old Oct 09, 01
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Unoriginal? That's a weak excuse...your intent is perfectly clear. And the price originally being 5 bucks and now it's $4.99? Also clear. No use in trying to save your ass when everyone can see right through you.

Erica :AZN:
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Old Oct 10, 01
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sorry guys but im just gonna have to say that this is all sad! this whole thread is pointless! your not gonna acomplish anything by rambeling on about bashing this or not bashing that.. and erica im not taking sides or anything but like so wut if it happens to be on the same day so wut if it's a cheap price so wut if it runs under almost the same name.. if anything runnning it offa wickednoiseparty promotes wickedhouseparty.. theres only one wickednoiseparty but there are lot's more wickedhousepartys and buy the whole day being occupied by a party called wicked anything will mostlikely be assoiciated with wickedhouseparty

but i also have to say that ripping off the name is not cool.. man if your fucking unoriginal then call it exatly that!

look at it this way ppl two totaly different companys giving you a good party with different types of music at one wicked price!

:Keebler:
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Old Oct 10, 01
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A appreciate your positive viewpoint

I appreciate your positive viewpoint, Keebler.

Its so hard for me to agree with you, in light of the situation, though I am forcing myself to.

I've worked so hard for WHP to get it to where it is today. Other team members of WHP have as well. This attack on me personally and professionally as part of Wickedhouseparty has hurt my feelings and has me shattered.

I cant beleive people would actually do this in the rave scene, which is built around Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect.

I have been so open to constructive criticism and new ideas and have worked every single day to help this collective and to help new and experienced DJs from around North America reach partykids here in Vancouver and around the world.

In light of all of this bashing of Wickedhouseparty, the suggestions e-mail box that I opened has not received a single email, showing these people's true intentions. They do not want to make Wickedhouseparty better, they do not have good alternative ideas. They are out to attack my credibility as well as that of the Wickedhouseparty collective.

An excerpt from one of these posts:
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---CrazyDave Saving the scene 2years longer then WHP. And has a much better track recorded in the terms of doing REAL STUFF over the bragging/hype. (shit to thing of it, most promoters in Van are doing better then this dude)---
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There is something called "co-operative competition" in the world of marketing. Car companies, banks, and any highly competitive industry, including the rave scene has learned about its effects. You can promote your consumer choice all you like, but being negative about another possible choice only hurts the entire group in the end. Look at politicians - they dont use co-operative competition. And what we end up with is politicians who promise the world and cut eachother down, who still suck.

Those who know me know me as a nice person who works very hard for WHP and the scene in the ways I do, and that I live and breathe WHP when I'm not working at my other career. They also know me as giving, kind, and gentle to most people, and those in need. And it is this charitous personality which allows me to spend huge amounts of money and time on Wickedhouseparty with no intention of personal gain or fame, although some people out there seem to beleive that I am a part of Wickedhouseparty for those reasons.

To me, Wickedhouseparty is about helping people. Helping DJs get their music out to the people. About helping partykids enjoy the music they love. About helping people who dont have $50 to spend to get in the door of a party be able to attend a quality party with DJs from all over the world.

I have been bashed, slandered, insulted, and in ways defamed and terrorized, but I beleive in my ideals, as do most of the party kids and DJs out there: Bring good quality electronic music to the people everywhere through every medium possible, be it the Internet, raves, parties, CDs, MiniDiscs, tapes, whatever.

Other people worthy of note beleive so as well, DJs such as Ill-e-sha (Van), Veronica (Van), Jakub (Sea), SnuK (SEA), Michael Knight (NYC), Ton Ensink (HOL), and Michael Oicle (FRA) taking time out of their busy schedules at their own expense to play parties which are exclusively for the love of the music.

I have made some mistakes during the over a year I have worked towards helping Wickedhouseparty become what I envision it to be. Everyone makes mistakes. This is part of being human and anyone to profess that they have not made a mistake is most definitely lying.

I will not waste the time to respond with some anti-bash-bash retort, for I am above that. I in my heart know that I am a Good Guy, and that will keep me going forever, as I in my heart know that I am doing good for the people through what I do.

I am very dissapointed in the people who have made these attacks against me and in the process, spread these attacks to those who have associated themselves with WHP simply because they beleive in the same good, true ideals.

The actions of these people show that they are not to be trusted when they say they are doing good for the people. It is like the Salvation Army declaring war on the United Way. After such an act, would you trust that the Salvation Army was out to help people from the bottom of their hearts? This an excellent metaphor as it is one group claiming to be "doing good for the scene" attacking another.

I have tried my absolute best to work things out with these people for several months, to sit down with he or them to discuss the apparently serious issues they have with myself and the organization I work with.

But what I leave to you is the following, the mission statement of the United Way, from a perspective of the entire global rave scene itself: United We Stand - Divided We Fall. Unity is the third word in the PLUR acronym upon which the rave scene was founded. Peace is the first. These attacks are not an act of peace. These attacks are not an act of love, other than the love of hatred or disdain. And absolutely no respect has been shown for myself as a person trying to do good in the global rave scene.

I am extremely hurt about this entire thing. If anyone out there beleives in what I do, please send me an email through this message board. I could really use a few props right about now. :(

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References to the situation which I have spoken of in this message above can be found in many sections of www.XTCity.com
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Old Oct 10, 01
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You know I love ya Keebs, but I have to strongly disagree with you. Sure, WickedNoizeParty MAY end up promoting WickedHouseParty, but most of the peeps in attendance to their party will know what it's all about. It's all over the boards man, and I still find their intent and basis of the party totally sickening.

To FURTHER prove that Ninjaboy is FULL OF SHIT, here's an excerpt of what CrazyDave wrote on XTCity. (this is in response to Ninja Boy's comment saying:

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Bwha ha ha!

You think we did this to spite kris?

Uh, no. It happens to be the day we can get the venue.

The price was orginaly 5 bux, same day.

we used the name cause quite frankly we're unorginal.


Dave says: "Why change the date? The full concept has to be that date. It is cause we are sick of Kris aka WHP bull shit."

There we have it boys and girls. And I really think that all of this is sad. It's one thing to flame us on the boards. It's another thing to intentionally fuck with us.

Erica :AZN:
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Old Oct 10, 01
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i will only say one thing.

BOOOOOOOOURNS.
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Old Oct 10, 01
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i think the replies alone show the true intents and philosopies of the whp crew.

take that whatever way you'd like.

r.
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Old Oct 13, 01
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Okay, you have to grasp the concept, me and dave are not attached at the hip.

I got the venue. On that day.

Dave is a little pissed cause he's been doing free-20 dollar parties, most 5 bux, for years.

Then some kid comes in and starts blaring how he's doing something new and orginal. It would understandably piss him off.


It be like if I came and said, I'm the first person in vancouver to use my basement and charge people to come in and party. I'm not, and i would understand why whp would be pissed.


Dave says: "Why change the date? The full concept has to be that date. It is cause we are sick of Kris aka WHP bull shit."

There we have it boys and girls. And I really think that all of this is sad. It's one thing to flame us on the boards. It's another thing to intentionally fuck with us.

no, we don't want to fuck with your "collective"

I've already stopped going on the boards and bothering you. I have resorted to email.

My one request.

Next time chris, don't Put promo's in the email. It's sad.
And as for you saying, we can't bring in the big names like snuk, and micheal knight.

How does madam zu sound? remeber when dave brought her?
Or ass magic johnson?

Bah, why haven't you replied to my last email?
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Old Oct 24, 01
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You know what guys?


um... yeah. wickednoizeparty IS going to suck. the music is going to suck, so will the vibe. Elitist by nature productions are not worth supporting at all.

so don't go to wickednoizeparty. instead, go to your normal, everyday $3 water hardhouse/breaks/trance mainstream moneygrab party on the same night.

um.. you'll have alot more... fun... there.


yeah.
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