RANE just put out the MIXER of all mixers

[stimulant j]

thats if your using serato scratch live.

this is ridiculous.

has serato built in + other goodies.

im thinking at least 2 grand when it hits stores.

i`ll be first in line to get it

http://www.rane.com/ttm57sl.html

[matéo]

Slick rig for sure.

J check out the scratchlive.net page lotsa talk about it.

[dj_soo]

yeap, i was looking for a link for this for the longest while :). This may just be my next mixer :o

[nabs]

that looks wicked.

[dj_soo]

best scratch mixer of all time integrated with the best HD music controller? yes please.

[Toxxin Ephekt]

meh, The Serato is definately cool,almost could be the end of vinyl with this mixer,(I'll stick to vinyl as long as I can) but still only a 2 channel, but prolly sounds like a Ace, but still only 2 channel.

[dj_soo]

hopefully they'll upgrade the Empath 2 (3 channel mixer) with serato too... that's going to be a pricey mixer though...

Still, the ttm56 is *the* best scratch mixer on the market

[Kraig]

Nice one.

You peeps that actually do have Serato though... when you buy records, are you ripping the record and then just playing it off Serato?

I'm curious to know how you organize your music so you can find it quickly although I appreciate that a lot of Hip Hop/DMC peeps tend to have routines/mixes and even their own edits and mixes of things that they know work well together.

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by Kraig

Nice one.

You peeps that actually do have Serato though... when you buy records, are you ripping the record and then just playing it off Serato?

I'm curious to know how you organize your music so you can find it quickly although I appreciate that a lot of Hip Hop/DMC peeps tend to have routines/mixes and even their own edits and mixes of things that they know work well together.

never used serato but i'm assuming it's like itunes or something where you can organize your tracks by artist, genre, bpm, title, etc.

[Kraig]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

never used serato but i'm assuming it's like itunes or something where you can organize your tracks by artist, genre, bpm, title, etc.

Oh that I knew! I'm curious to know though from those that use the system, how they organize directories to find music on the fly. I can imagine those using Serato must have 1000's of music files. It's basically like showing up to a gig with over 1000 records. -- Where do you start?

[matéo]

Kraig serato gives you the ability to create unlimited amount of crates that are saved. You simply click and drag your audio files from the folder in your harddrive to a newly made crate named "hiphop" or "blah" or whatever. Personally I have all my files organized under the sub genre and then artist name alphabetically. The files are still saved on your hardddrive in their original folder but you can acess them easily though these crates. just like you would at a gig with your record collection.

That being said you don't have to sort alphabetically. You can also sort by song name, bitrate, bpm, etc.

Serato currently doesn't have a built in BPM counter but there is one called mixmeister I think which automatically calculates are your tracks bpms and stores the info in the wav or mp3.

Since im on a role here im also going to tell you what sucks about serato. I bought with the mindset that I will be ethical and only download music I payed for. This works great with dance music because of all the resources. But billboard style hip hop rnb etc is another story. Really the only legal download paysite to get popular music is Itunes and all of their files are protected and are only compatible with apple hardware. So on one hand I wanna do the right thing and only play music I payed for but unless I am in a legal Mp3 record pool its going to be pretty difficult to do so.

[Kraig]

Originally Posted by matéo

Kraig serato gives you the ability to create unlimited amount of crates that are saved. You simply click and drag your audio files from the folder in your harddrive to a newly made crate named "hiphop" or "blah" or whatever. Personally I have all my files organized under the sub genre and then artist name alphabetically. The files are still saved on your hardddrive in their original folder but you can acess them easily though these crates.

Thanks bro... I knew all that. Serato's file structure can be setup much the same as your documents folder on your computer - anyway you want!

My question is more around the idea of sorting your music. I appreciate that you can classify your music by genre and sub genre.... some even by artist or BPM (which makes the greatest sense) and that's great. So does that imply that those that use Serato have a pre-set play list or "routine" that they have ready?

I know as a DJ when I show up to a gig, I don't show up with a pre-defined list of tracks I want to play. I tend to bring too many records and freestyle the set based on a bunch of factors.

I can't imagine you can take that same approach with Serato as you'd be showing up with 20 gigs of music totalling over 2000+ songs! At least in my record bag I know my selection is limited to 100 or so records and 30 or so CD's.

[Kraig]

Originally Posted by matéo

Since im on a role here im also going to tell you what sucks about serato. I bought with the mindset that I will be ethical and only download music I payed for. This works great with dance music because of all the resources. But billboard style hip hop rnb etc is another story. Really the only legal download paysite to get popular music is Itunes and all of their files are protected and are only compatible with apple hardware. So on one hand I wanna do the right thing and only play music I payed for but unless I am in a legal Mp3 record pool its going to be pretty difficult to do so.

Interesting point. What about purchasing the vinyl and then ripping it to high quality MP3 for you to then play on Serato?

[matéo]

Ps theres alot of talk about the future of the EMpath series and scratch on the website. www.scratchlive.net I know I sound like a total salesmen for the company but the support you get from the mods on this site is amazing. Any question you ask is answered within 1 day and if it won't be discarded until theres a solution to what you're asking.

[Kraig]

Cool. I'll check it out.

[matéo]

Kraig

apparently ripping vinyl is illeagal also according to the rane reps. I will find a link. It is also I very lengthy process. Needless to say the majority of my vinyl is for sale.

I kinda see what you're getting at. There is an option to make a playlist of the tracks you want to play in a set. You can take them out of the crates with out actually taking them out (the equivalent to say pulling up the sleeves of the records you're interested in playing at the gig)

When I played vinyl I would spend about 15 minutes at home doing the same as you and getting about 100 recs together for a set and from there getting a better idea of what to play at the show. I guess in comparison you could spend the 15 mins on your laptop at home grabbing 100 files and putting them into your current playlist.

Not sure if that answers your question Kraigbert.

[Kraig]

Yep... it does matt-HEY-HO...

[decypher]

Oh man, this is THE mixer to have.

[Toxxin Ephekt]

^, yeah, you should just throw yours away...

[stimulant j]

me personally ... i got 2000 mp3`s from every genre. mostly hip hop.

took me 4 days .. but i divided them into crates thru serato.

they range from :

1- openers
2- bangers
3- westcoast
4- eastcoast
5- instrumentals
6-acapellas
7-breaks
8- hardhouse
9- oldschool
10- underground

each crate has enough material to last 2 hrs or so...

w/ that .. depending wut time of the nite or where im playing... i use wuts appropriate.

IT makes life so much easier.

W/ the whole vinyl ripping process.. i honestly havent ripped anything yet.. luckily for me i had a thousand hip hop mp3s saved from yrs back .. so i just transfered all them over to my laptop .. also i download like crazy too now. I plan on burning the ABSOLUTE RARE vinyl u cant find online.

I`ll most likely be bringing it out to the next twisted show IN THA MIX .

Only negative thing i have about serato is the fact u gotta configure it w/ the tables before you rock.. which is OK if ur doing a club where u can setup early .. however when a rave comes along .. u gotta do it on the fly before u play .. which can be a hassle.

When the TTM57 mixer comes out .. i`m gonna buy it .. so i can save the hassle of dealing w/ shitty mixers and hooking up serato to the clubs i`ll be at. Now i can jus bring my mixer + laptop .. hook direct to the tables... and i got 2000+ tracks to rock.

[Rytalin]

Originally Posted by matéo

Kraig serato gives you the ability to create unlimited amount of crates that are saved. You simply click and drag your audio files from the folder in your harddrive to a newly made crate named "hiphop" or "blah" or whatever. Personally I have all my files organized under the sub genre and then artist name alphabetically. The files are still saved on your hardddrive in their original folder but you can acess them easily though these crates. just like you would at a gig with your record collection.

That being said you don't have to sort alphabetically. You can also sort by song name, bitrate, bpm, etc.

Serato currently doesn't have a built in BPM counter but there is one called mixmeister I think which automatically calculates are your tracks bpms and stores the info in the wav or mp3.

Since im on a role here im also going to tell you what sucks about serato. I bought with the mindset that I will be ethical and only download music I payed for. This works great with dance music because of all the resources. But billboard style hip hop rnb etc is another story. Really the only legal download paysite to get popular music is Itunes and all of their files are protected and are only compatible with apple hardware. So on one hand I wanna do the right thing and only play music I payed for but unless I am in a legal Mp3 record pool its going to be pretty difficult to do so.

Your morals are good.. keep paying for quality underground tunes. But as for the mainstream shite.... I say fuck em. No one in Top40 is not in SOCAN or ASCAP or some other performing rights organization. Chances are if you play their stuff enough, they'll get royalties for it either way. And you can always just buy the CD and be able to make as high a quality rip as you want.

[Digital Over]

hmmmm, I'm not a big fan of Serato, but for what this is, its cool nonetheless