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Aug 12, 03
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My concern....
I don't know exactly how to start this.. but here it goes,
my concern is people and their irresponsible tendencies, my concern is human nature and it's drive to push certain people to their limits and to act out of impulse rather than knowledge and common sense. I'm sure most of you have either been in a situation where you've had to take care of someone who wasen't doing so well on drugs, or heard of someone who's OD'd whether it be on the news, through friends, etc or maybe you even witnessed someone have a near death experience right in front of your eyes. I've been to a few parties in my day.. I wouldn't exactly consider myself a noob, but i'm nowhere near being a veteran, but during my partying career I've had to take care of so many people who either mixed certain substances that shouldn't have been mixed, or had just done too much of a certain drug. This thread isn't intended for those who've maybe made a mistake in the past and learnt from it, because if you had a bad experience and you learned something then there's a good chance you won't be making a similar mistake, I'm more concerned about people who don't learn from their mistakes and continue to put themselves in situations where they put their health and life in danger. I can't stress how important it is to do a bit of research before you plan on doing any substances, drugs aren't something to be taken lightly. If you're going to mix any drugs, do some research, take 5 minutes out of your day to read up on the amount you should be doing, and whether it's ok to mix whatever it is you plan on mixing. I mean at Cronical on Saturday, I ran into a girl that popped 3 caps in 10 minutes.. keep in mind that this was her first time doing E. I later heard that there were fake caps going around so there was a good chance that the ones she did were fake... but I mean that's totally besides the point, the fact that she would do 3 caps of E when she had never done it before seriously worries me. I can't believe there are people out there that are irresponsible enough to do such a thing. This concern of mine has contributed to my decision to stop doing E. It's not entirely the reason but it's definitely a factor, I'd rather be sober at parties and in the least jaded state of mind, so I can help out friends or other people that aren't doing so well, not because I have to, but because I wouldn't be satisfied with myself as a human being if I didn't. 
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Aug 12, 03
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NICE!
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Aug 12, 03
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i agree...just like all the forest fires in bc, the heat wave killing hundreds in paris, etc...it's nature's form of population control. only the strong survive (in most cases).
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Aug 12, 03
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Sometimes I wonder about humans - about their intentions - about how easily they forget what a gift life is - especially the life many of us here in good ol'Canada have. One of the things that perhaps sticks out most to me is the fact the USUALLY (certainlly not always) the person who is so careless with their drugs and consumption is a younger person - late teens -
I love teenagers (and no not in a dirty way) So I am not about to pretend all teens act a certian way or do certian things simply because they are teens that being said - i think mortality is somthing that teens know about , understand the concept of but rarely have to face. I don't believe it's a 'it can't happen to me' thing....I don't think that is a concious thought for many-- they simply just want to live life and assert themselves and their independence Some of it has to do with being afraid of asking questions - "how many pills should i take?' Not wanting to look like you don't know what you are doing -- Sometimes it has to do wih presenting image - I am SOOO cool I'll pop 3 at once Some has to do with a loss of a sense of control - 'well this feels so good - imagine i did more' Drugs are not to be taken lightly - that is for sure - but for many it takes years to really realize it - You know in your head they are supposed to be - but all you hear and see is the good - it often takes a bad incident for some to really wake up- that incident may or may involve themselves In my 6 years of ravemania I have seen my share of flailing, overdoses and sadly death - I've watched people battle with addiction - I have come from being in love with all that is rave to being sarcastic with all things rave related - and now to my rather neutral - most things are what you make of them stage :) Ultimatley you can not be responsible for the choices of all those around you - you will not be able to 'take care of' them all - But you make all those you love aware that you are there if they do want help finding answers to questions and so on - what they do is there choice and sadly not all will make smart ones - but many will learn It would be nice if we all had our heads on firmly - but the arguabley common sense that you have stated isn't first nature to many - thankfully it is for you ;)
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Aug 12, 03
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The first time I ever did shrooms (and at an outdoor rave no less), my best friend hippy-flipped.
We were sitting on the beach talking all high-like, when all of a sudden, something she said triggered a bad trip for her. I had to sit with her while she freaked out (and wouldn't let me leave) for what felt like HOURS (all in all, maybe about an hour tops) while she rode it out. Not fun. She never hippy-flipped again.
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Aug 12, 03
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i can do drugs and babysit people... cuz im that damn good.
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Aug 12, 03
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Well Said Shadi...
I believe I ran into her too.
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Aug 13, 03
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sometimes people wanna od.. or try to do that.. or get so fukt up . test their... abiilities?
kuz some people think od'ing on drugs isn't as painful as stabbing themselves or... jumping a bridge... oh are they IN for a surprise :tounge1:
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Aug 13, 03
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k first off i totally agree with this tread,and i dont mean to start shit, but if ur takin mdma and ONLY mdma theres really no such thing as ODing , theres dying cause u either drank to much or to little water but thats it, the worst thing that happens is u get really dizzy and puke. Its people wiggin other people out about how much they took that cuases more harm then anything, cause then people panic and panicing while high=bad news
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Aug 15, 03
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^ Of all the caps available on the market, how many do you think are actually pure mdma?? Not very many, I read in the Georgia Straight today that "60% of ecstasylike pills seized locally contain meth."
Oh and in my opinion, if you're doing drugs to the point where you're dizzy and puking, then that's being irresponsible. If it's a one time thing and you learned something, then maybe it's better that it happened. But if getting sick at parties becomes recurring thing then that's just not healthy. Jingles, thank you for the wonderful reply. I couldn't agree with you more on so many of the things you said. I definitely agree that so much of the younger generation take their lives for granted.
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Aug 15, 03
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shades604: your concerns are warranted, but the fact is, a new dumbass od's every now and then. like that girl at breathe(i think). courtney knew her and shit, she did like numerous caps, some coke, ghb. and she fried her brain, and now she's a fuckin vegetable.
it's been said before, natural selection. we were all noobs, none of my friends ever got brain damage. it's being responsible for your actions. shit happens. and they is the shit
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Aug 16, 03
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^regardless.....(conclusion) -----> you, me, your friends, and every other 'drug user' out there assumes the risk that the drug they have may be there last. nothing manufactured,produced, and shipped in an 'underground' world can be gauranteed 100 percent safetey. Don't let the thought that anything produced under guidlines can be gaurantee'd safe either.
Each and every person will have different reactions within themselves as compared to their friends when taking the same cap of e, or any other drug for that matter; what may be react stronger may react weaker with someone else, and vise versa. Be comfortable enough with your body to be able to RECOGNIZE and ACT UPON your body's reaction. just remember: you never know if that last cap of e could of been someones sick idea of a joke and instead of being filled with 'plurbag' goodness, was filled with rat poisoning. it is YOUR responsiblitity as a drug user, for that is what you are, to take measure in keeping your own well being in tact. Keep safe, Have Fun, and don't hole anywhere i wouldn't hole :P -max Last edited by Goat; Aug 16, 03 at 04:36 PM.
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Aug 16, 03
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Aug 19, 03
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who cares.
if someone is irresponsible 'nuff to get fucked up - would mean that they spent no time in researching about the chemicals that they are about to pop/sniff/inject in their bodies to do a long term damage. So if they spend no time to take care of themselves - then why should neone else spend ne time to take care of em? I honestly haven't seen a decent minded person OD!! [thats for that] and again, you might say one can't control the shit in the drugs they get in parties. But is it too hard to just find someone you can trust with your E's? its not a joke. its drugs. it harms us all, and we all know it. So if this post is just to remind everyone out there of the fuck ups that can happen, then you have my props. ps. i like da braids, shadi. :D
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