!!!Come Visit The UrbanShaman for all of your Entheobotanical Needs!!!

[Knigel]

http://www.urbanshaman.ca

Come check out our new space and see what we have to interest you

Located i the back of the BC Marijuana Party HQ in the heart of Vansterdam

[ckyroach]

the people who work there are kinda dorkass hippies.....i went to go buy some salvia and i asked the dude "so will this shit get me fucked up?like will i trip out and shit?" and hes like"salvia isnt for tripping out, god didnt put any drugs on this earth for that intent, god created these because he wants us to use them" blah blah blah i honestly stopped listening and walked out the door when i was finnished buying it, anyways i just thought he was kinda faggy....
all i wanted to hear was some cool stories like how he was walking down the street and saw a huge ass can of chicken noodle soup in the middle of the road and tried to move it outa the way but couldnt cuz it was soo big....or maybe something like how he smoked 4 grams of salvia and entered another demension and met jim morrison and smoked a fat joint and then learned what the meaning of life was. Some shit like that would be fucking cool,,but no he had to be a hippie looser. :finger:

[Knigel]

I think you missed the sign on the wall that states these sacraments are for research purposes and not for human consuption. The Urban Shaman was not set up to make available outlets to get people "f*ck*d up" but to share the knowledge that surround these plants and substances. We here feel that through education we can teach people that being responsible will lead to a better experience as well as show that human kind can be responsible enough to keep things that our rightfully ours from being kept behind lock and key. We also feel that an attitude of getting messed up recreationally without active harm reduction leads the way to the claim that Psychedelics should be taken away from us. This is the pattern that has followed many other substances. Once some child gets a little too messed, paranoid, or even dies then a community forms to take it away from everyone. Our mission is to make information available to everyone so that they are able to make informed decisions about the choice they may or may not make. Salvia Divinorum in itself is on a very fine boarder, there are many who are trying to make a strong case against it. Salvia is already treading the path of being scedualed in the U.S. and is already illegal in australia. Personally I want to teach people that Salvia can be really beautiful if taken with the proper set, setting, and sitter yet even then can be way too terrifying for many. For me she's always been pleasant and a good teacher, yet I know many others who refused to go near her after thier first time due to terror. Salvia definetly needs to be respected. I do hope that you do learn one day that you'll have a better experience with the proper mind state, preparation, and respect. You are lucky that you were able to purchase what you wanted that day, personally I follow the other sign that is up on our wall indicating that we won't sell to people under the age of 18.

[decypher]

CkyRoach, that was a very very stupid and ignorant post... i laughed so hard, no wonder the "hippies" said that... because they realized ur a stupid kid hoping to get fucked up on salvia... salvia isn't like mushrooms where the trip is easy to 'control', u have an active hand in what is going on, whether ur fucked or not, or seeing crazy 'shit' u still have a handle somewhat on ur actions.... salvia, if u even managed to breakthrough, is something completely different and bizarre, u dont see "chicken noodle soup" or find the meaning of life.... some people only actually see a few small visuels or feel really strange, and get scared... but if u actually have a full on trip... it can last anywhere from 5-20 minutes and feel like a lifetime... and believe me u wont be able to 'walk down the street'... if u were to do it standing up, and had a full on trip... u would most likely fall to the ground... u would lose all feeling in your body, and u would be shot into another world... this isn't like shrooms were u have visuels... this is actually a hallucination, where u can't tell the difference between the hallucination and reality... it can be very scary, you can have complete egoloss, where your consciousness is temporarily gone.. your body is gone, and you are in a different universe, My personal experiences with it, i temporarily had amnesia, i couldn't even comprehend the idea of a human being, i was just watching the world tear away and reform itself into a strange planet filed with metallic forests, pyramids, and entitys that scared the shit outta me, these herbs are meant for deep introspective thinking....it may sound "cool" but believe me, judging from your post, u aren't ready... and well just end up freaking out... not knowing what to do, and bringing a bad name to a valuable herb used for a long time, by many.... its people like u who do mushrooms, or other psychedelic drugs, freak out, do something stupid and bring bad media.... so please do the rest of us a favour and stick to meth, E and coke.... thank you

[BongMan]

hey I would get buggered on salvia y not and if u dont want people to go buy it and use it to get fucked up why bother posting it on a goddamn raver board crazy hippies

[BongMan]

No1 maybe im taking u out of context here but are u saying that Mush is bad cid is bad but all the psychadelics they are peddling here are ok if so take your head outta ur ass and take a good hard look at the real world ya hypocrit

[Rytalin]

^what the fuck are you babbling about?

have you even tried salvia at all?

If you take your fingers out of your ass, they may type more legibly.

No psychadellics are bad, and knigel is definetly not saying that.
peoples intentions behind doing them are what can lead to really bad experiences. Especially if you just want to get AS FUCKED AS POSSIBLE MAN$%*(^(^

on that note, anyone who thinks like that maybe deserves exactly what they end up getting by trying to do so with stupid ammounts of psychadellic drugs.


on that note, go get buggered on acid and mushrooms and salvia and whatever the hell else you can get your hands on.

just don't be suprised if you wake up in the hospital, drunk tank or a rubber room.

[BongMan]

never have never will i can control a trip and donno if u read the start of my post as in maybe I took it out of context u ass

[alkatraz]

I tried salvia once and did the whole "smoke 1g as quickly as possible through a water bong" as instructed by the person at thUrbanShaman.. I didn't feel anything other then a bit light headed.. pretty disapointed

Any suggestions??

Have you guys done the 5x or 10x stuff?

On a side note, when we went there the crazy hippy who sells the herbs brought her baby out and proceeded to breast feed it while we were trying to buy the Salvia. hahah

[decypher]

Bongman, maybe if u could read you would understand what i said... i didn't SAY that mush or cid was bad... what i was saying is that what people think of when doing mush or cid is that... hey im gonna get fucked and see some crazy shit... what i was TRYING to convey to your tiny brains was that mush and cid are completely different then salvia... sure you trip, have revelations, see things, get 'fucked up' as you guys say... all that... but with salvia the trip is completely different and more intense, i was saying this because the orginal poster ckyroach was saying how he didn't give a shit about what the "hippie" had to say he just wanted to know whether he would see something crazy walking down the road like u would on mushrooms.....i corrected him... maybe try reading the entire post before opening your mouth....


Alkatraz i think it might have to do with how many times you have done different hallucinagens, and how willing your mind is to give in to salvia.... try building a third lung... what i did when i did it was i had an ice cream bucket turned upside down, with a power ade bottle stuck in the top with a bowl in the top of the power ade bottle... totally air tight sealed... with a big bag ducked tapped to the ice cream bucket... push the bag all the way into the ice cream bucket... put your whole dose of salvia into the bowl... get like 2 or 3 people with butane torch lighters to light the bowl as you slowly pull the bag out, pulling the smoke into the bag..... very very slowly because the salvia has a higher burning temperature then pot, so the slower the better... after the whole bowl is burned into the bag... unscrew the bowl from the powerade bottle... take in as much as you can, try and hold it for 20-30 seconds... exhale... take the rest... same thing... you should get there sooner or later... try it again if it doesen't work... you'll break through sooner or later... but be prepared

[BongMan]

seee I didnt read the entire post to boring cant be bothered would rather spout off with a warning before I start

[Knigel]

Originally posted by alkatraz
I tried salvia once and did the whole "smoke 1g as quickly as possible through a water bong" as instructed by the person at thUrbanShaman.. I didn't feel anything other then a bit light headed.. pretty disapointed

Any suggestions??

Have you guys done the 5x or 10x stuff?

On a side note, when we went there the crazy hippy who sells the herbs brought her baby out and proceeded to breast feed it while we were trying to buy the Salvia. hahah

First of all www.erowid.org you'll find alot of info and trip reports to help you. Second, people can smoke salvia all of thier lives at many different extract levels and never break through or even feel anything, yet Salvia does have a reverse tolerance so usually once you know how to get there you'll know what to look for in the future. Personally I never felt anything the first few times I tried Salvia yet it has definetly paid off. One mistake you can make is to jump into a dose too high to try to get something, you may end up having an experience that will lead you to never want to try Salvia again, always keep the respect. Personally I've done 10X 5X and leaf and find they all work well enough if I'm in the right state of mind. I've smoked 10X before and felt nothing and also smoked leave and broken through. One other thing is to remember Slavia has a high boiling point so one would need to keep the flame right in the leaf to get it hot enough. There are alot of neat little tricks with salvia just do some research on line and something will make itself available to you.


On your side note,

You mean breasts are used for more then guys to get off on? Amazing.

[MistressSpankME]

Originally posted by ckyroach
the people who work there are kinda dorkass hippies.....i went to go buy some salvia and i asked the dude "so will this shit get me fucked up?like will i trip out and shit?" and hes like"salvia isnt for tripping out, god didnt put any drugs on this earth for that intent, god created these because he wants us to use them" blah blah blah i honestly stopped listening and walked out the door when i was finnished buying it, anyways i just thought he was kinda faggy....
all i wanted to hear was some cool stories like how he was walking down the street and saw a huge ass can of chicken noodle soup in the middle of the road and tried to move it outa the way but couldnt cuz it was soo big....or maybe something like how he smoked 4 grams of salvia and entered another demension and met jim morrison and smoked a fat joint and then learned what the meaning of life was. Some shit like that would be fucking cool,,but no he had to be a hippie looser. :finger:

uhh... you're a fucking idiot dude.

And thats about all the time I'mgoing to waste replying to your ignorrant post.

[ckyroach]

^^ you are all really big dorks,,,,,knigel u looser,,,dont say shit about me not being able to handle myself when im on drugs, do u know me? have u ever met me? go back and smoke some shitty salvia u looser. the people who work there are hippies,,that is my opinion, like it or hate, it i dont care. its my opinion and im am entitled to it. im also not a "kid" im a "teenager" so learn the termonology. oh and ps-i will will consider you and YES i will stick to my cocaine and acid, thanks for the suggestion!

[bunnywoowoo]

You shouldnt be doing salvia to get fucked up, its a totally spiritual experience. You likely wont feel effects unless you smoke 5x or 10x, which you cant get at urban shaman, but if you go to the spirit within (just next door), you can get that stuff. But yea, stick to your acid and shit if you just want to get fucked up and see stuff.

[Rytalin]

BONGFUCK!

POO ROACH!

CHEW ON THIS, BITCHERS!



"(Psychadellics are) Like for instance a knife: if you give a knife to a child who doesn't understand what it is, he can hurt himself or others around him. Whereas if you give it to a skilled surgeon, a practitioner who understands its potential, it can do great healing work. So the danger in using them recreationally is that we are using them as toys rather than tools, which enhances the risk."

-off the Vancouver Sun article about Salvia

[Knigel]

Originally posted by bunnywoowoo
You shouldnt be doing salvia to get fucked up, its a totally spiritual experience. You likely wont feel effects unless you smoke 5x or 10x, which you cant get at urban shaman, but if you go to the spirit within (just next door), you can get that stuff. But yea, stick to your acid and shit if you just want to get fucked up and see stuff.

Actually Salvia has a reverse tolerance which is very unique to the chemical. Also I definetly would not recommend smoking extracts before trying leaf. Many people have very intence experiences off of just a little bit of Salvia, while some people smoke Extracts all thier life and feel nothing. It's best to work your way up, smoking tiny bits to build up the reverse tolerance. It's a waste of money to jump right into extracts usually. I know this personally from going through a bunch of 10X and getting nothing more then a light head rush, then smoking 5X and going into Salvia land. Now Leaf is enough for proper meditation. Personally I've always have had very beautiful experiences off Salvia but I know too many experiences of people who don't feel something and then jump into a higher extract, have a horrible time and then never want to try Salvia again.

[Knigel]

Originally posted by Rytalin
BONGFUCK!

POO ROACH!

CHEW ON THIS, BITCHERS!



"(Psychadellics are) Like for instance a knife: if you give a knife to a child who doesn't understand what it is, he can hurt himself or others around him. Whereas if you give it to a skilled surgeon, a practitioner who understands its potential, it can do great healing work. So the danger in using them recreationally is that we are using them as toys rather than tools, which enhances the risk."

-off the Vancouver Sun article about Salvia

That was a good article. I'm glad to have possitive media presence, we have alot of people always coming through with cameras and notepads at the shaman, it's interesting.

[Knigel]

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