special K

jib monkey · #1 (**permalink**) Mar 25, 04

i have a few questions about special k. to start off with i heard they are horse tranqs...is that true? what are the effects? i know ppl who drink on them and they get really messed..is that the point? if they are tranqs wouldn't they just sedate you then completly constipate you? any kind of info to k please share.

decypher · #2 (**permalink**) Mar 25, 04

oh god, this is why we need a moderator for jokes like this... i doubt this is even a serious post, but just in case

no drinking with it is bad, and can put u in a coma.
it has been used as an animal tranquilizer, hence crackheads breaking into veterinary offices.

if you or any other trolls wanna know more:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine.shtml

jib monkey · #3 (**permalink**) Mar 25, 04

after reading that website i am glad that i've taken chemistry. i don't see the allure what a shat drug

Rytalin · #4 (**permalink**) Mar 26, 04

^dude you wanna talk about shat drugs?

sigh
I'm not even gonna start.

your name is Jib Monkey after all.

ashley112 · #5 (**permalink**) Mar 26, 04

they make search sites like GOOGLE.COM for a reason *sigh*

jib monkey · #6 (**permalink**) Mar 26, 04

i do jib so much crack monkeys lick my tissues. actually i don't use jib...but then again you never know what's in a pill

zarlon · #7 (**permalink**) Mar 26, 04

heh dont mix depressants, bad effects.

cheebus420 · #8 (**permalink**) Mar 26, 04

Quote:

Originally posted by decypher
oh god, this is why we need a moderator for jokes like this... i doubt this is even a serious post[/url]

ummm what? sounds like the guy wanted some information ... I don't see how it's a joke in any way.

zarlon · #9 (**permalink**) Mar 26, 04

^ word

Knigel · #10 (**permalink**) Mar 26, 04

lots of info in many of my sig URLs I'm also sure you'll get plenty of response on PsychoAction

decypher · #11 (**permalink**) Mar 26, 04

Quote:

Originally posted by cheebus420

ummm what? sounds like the guy wanted some information ... I don't see how it's a joke in any way.

i was thinking it was a joke post, afterall the guy's name is 'jib monkey' , he has 48 posts.. and he said this:
" i know ppl who drink on them and they get really messed..is that the point?"

so i assumed this was a lame attempt at being funny

jib monkey · #12 (**permalink**) Mar 27, 04

wrong

QuanNeur · #13 (**permalink**) Mar 27, 04

this whole omg-he-asked-on-a-message-board attitude is ridiculous. sure he could have looked elsewhere but many of the sites listed in knigel's sig carry out-dated and incomplete info at best and many of the others contain highly questionable info.. google's not going to be any better. sometimes the best info does come at the interpersonal level, especially in cases where geographic location affects things like drug potency and consumption practices.

cheebus420 · #14 (**permalink**) Mar 27, 04

yeah exactly, it never hurts to ask, it's what a "community" is for

FunkyPhil · #15 (**permalink**) Apr 03, 04

^^
True dat!
And what a great community we have.

strawberr_E · #16 (**permalink**) Apr 03, 04

mmmm...K. i know that wasn't very helpful sawry.

jib monkey · #17 (**permalink**) Apr 04, 04

i am just going to ask my mom...weird i know but she's an emergency nurse and knows tons of shit. this post was a waste of time

decypher · #18 (**permalink**) Apr 04, 04

ok i didn't mean to come off like an asshole.. i just didn't think u were serious.. but seriously there is alot of info on www.erowid.org and other sites... basically don't drink alcohol before or after you do K to be careful.. and be careful how much u do... very small lines. this shit isn't coke :) so take tiny bumps.. and somewhere where u can sit down if u have too without people bugging you... good luckl

QuanNeur · #19 (**permalink**) Apr 05, 04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jib monkey

i am just going to ask my mom...weird i know but she's an emergency nurse and knows tons of shit. this post was a waste of time

here is how i feel about ketamine:
http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/%7Errause/k.html

keep in mind that i'm a heavily biased crackhead.

zarlon · #20 (**permalink**) Apr 05, 04

k is awesome

snort

C_squared · #21 (**permalink**) Apr 05, 04

k is f*ct up. i had lots of fun doing it- but i probably wont touch it again. i had friend that was doing some field work with a vetrenerian hospital & he stole a 300ml bottle of liquid K...we cooked it up with a bunson burner to crystalise it. at one point there was too much of. it was like that scene from scarface when tony montana is sitting at his desk in front of a huge pile of cocaine--well the pile wasnt that big, but you get the picture.

Goat · #22 (**permalink**) Apr 05, 04

http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/%7Errause/k.html
that was stupid.

K-holing is not enjoyable

i *heart* k

Knigel · #23 (**permalink**) Apr 05, 04

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuanNeur

here is how i feel about ketamine:
http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/%7Errause/k.html

keep in mind that i'm a heavily biased crackhead.

"k is not a dangerous drug, in fact it is very safe. it is still administered to old people, young kids and other people with weak immune systems in place of more traditional aenesthetics because it is so safe. the dangers you hear of so often from the many alarmists out there relate only to its extreme psychological powers.. everyone knows someone who's had
a bad experience on k. no doubt it was probably the result of a drug combination, likely with marijuana involved. if you do as i say you will certainly be all right."

There is no such thing as a safe drug. Ketamine can be Psychologically Addictive and also has major effects on the motor system so people *can* injure themselves. One may also be concerned of any street market substance, possibility of allergic reaction, brand differences, or contra-indications. I think your article gives the wrong idea about "safe" since it's too bias and doesn't give possibilities and what has been confirmed and not. Remember also that Doctors screw up all of the time and make alot of wrong decisions. Water isn't even a "safe" drug.

Some interesting articles:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/keta...ne_info5.shtml

If you read this one:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_health1.shtml

Make sure you read this one as well:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_health2.shtml

jib monkey · #24 (**permalink**) Apr 05, 04

thanks for the info. i have no plans on using k, seems to not really be an upper like other drugs

aurora · #25 (**permalink**) Apr 05, 04

they are describing one aspect of safety, and in that particular aspect it is fair to say that K is safe - the acute toxicity threshold, which is very low. meaning, pharmacologically, taking an overdose of Ketamine is not likely to kill or intrinsically damage you. in hospital settings K is used at doses several times higher than 'recreational' doses to induce anaesthesia. doses 10x higher than THESE doses have been accidentally administered with complete recovery.

however, there are other factors in determining the safety of a compound, and although Ketamine may have a wide therapeutic ratio, it's unwise to assume anything is completely 'safe'. Ketamine may be physically safer than other 'recreational' substances and may be completely benign - or it may be totally neurotoxic, or somewhere in between. it is not known for sure, yet, so calling anything 'safe' is misleading. one must first define the type of safety potential they are describing - is it acute toxicity, neurotoxicity, physical, psychological, etc?

I'm in no way suggesting that Ketamine is dangerous, either - but nothing is as simple as 'safe' and 'dangerous'. as with anything: fool, poison; master, medicine.