MDMA vs. MDA

[tested01]

alright this topic is mainly actualy what you prefer.

MDMA or MDA.

personally since about last weekend, i've complately switched to MDA, hopefully i'll be lucky enough in the near future to get my hands on some more MDA heavy heavy caps cause simply MDA is much much much better in my opinion, especially with the added bonus of some visual distortions and even sometimes in heavier doses some hallucinations.

so what do YOU like....

[tested01]

these mda heavy caps that i speak of were the white doves.

[axion]

mda is fun. but be careful, on many different occasions i have heard of people saying that they've had fucked up to reactions to this stuff, especially the white doves.

personally if i still did e and if i were to do either mdma or mda, i would pick mdma.

[tested01]

i havent had an bad reactions to mda whatsoever, and it was just really refreshing considering that i thought iw as getting high of MDMA, but then realized shit, this is MDA cause right now my tolerance is wayyy to high to be actualyl getting high of MDMA, so it must have been to mda that i enjoyed so throughly.

[hardstylin]

i dont like mda at all, i wont buy tabs that are cut with it,much rather have a little jib with my mdma.

[neoh]

^^^ me too.

[mapleleaf4ever]

I don't think I've had MDA in any caps I've done... the only time I saw stuff moving was after inane amounts of Pure MDMA. :toasted:

[Clayton.]

I use to be able to get jel caps that i was told were mda but i'm not sure if that was correct cause i had to do alot of them to get a good high.

[Rytalin]

MDA blows MDMA outta the water, imo.
it lasts twice as long and its reeeaally clear headed. Not as habit forming either, cos of the absence of the meth molecule.

And it doesn't drain your seretonin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wishbone]

k what was in white butterflies last fall? i thought it was MDA....reaaaal floaty, no energy, but a hard sketch for me and a friend of mine. Like I say, I thought it must have been MDA but I wasn't too sure. at least I knew there wasn't any jib for once hahahaa.

[BenGiovanni]

Gray or white minus...MDA ho...best caps ive done...
1 hour come up...4 hour peak...4 hour clean ass comedown, like Rytalin said...theyre just amazing... now adays..its JIB JIB JIB MDMA JIB JIB....

[penguinabc123]

Originally Posted by Rytalin

MDA blows MDMA outta the water, imo.
it lasts twice as long and its reeeaally clear headed. Not as habit forming either, cos of the absence of the meth molecule.

And it doesn't drain your seretonin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i had no idea it didnt drain seritonin. ive read ( well tryed to) stuph on erowid bluelight etc. etc. and can never find much info on it, always comes up as mdma, you have any more info on that? no seritonine drain eh, so is the week after not as depressing, or is it just depressing in a different way? fill me in i must find pure gelly's w/ this....

hmm i think i may have gotten to excited there..

[Carmen]

Any1 done pure white unicorns?

[Knigel]

Originally Posted by Rytalin

Not as habit forming either, cos of the absence of the meth molecule.

Care to give more detail of this meth molecule and explain what your talking about? Why and how is MDMA more habit forming then MDA? Do you mean the methyl groups? where are you getting this information? You seem to be saying this very matter of fact, can you back it up in any way, shape or form? Are you confusing black market "E" with MDMA which may have who knows what in it?

[tested01]

Originally Posted by Carmen

Any1 done pure white unicorns?

i had a whole bag of em on friday....little to mellow for me, reallllllly clean caps though i guess, mellow for me cause i have a high tolerance to mdma.

[tested01]

Originally Posted by Carmen

Any1 done pure white unicorns?

if you were at twisted and bought your there by any chance, they were probably from me.lol.

[Rytalin]

Originally Posted by Knigel

Care to give more detail of this meth molecule and explain what your talking about? Why and how is MDMA more habit forming then MDA? Do you mean the methyl groups? where are you getting this information? You seem to be saying this very matter of fact, can you back it up in any way, shape or form? Are you confusing black market "E" with MDMA which may have who knows what in it?

(yeah I meant methyl group, woops)

Maybe I said it more matter-of-factly than I should have.
I'm basing it on observations of both MDMA, MDA and methamphetamine in my own brain, observations of other people's usage patterns with those substances, and other people's thoughts/observations of the effects mdma, mda, meth and amphetamine have on their brain. A chemist friend of mine confirmed with me what I thought about the methyl group or absence thereof in those substances.

What I've found is that the methyl group seems to add a boxed in, egocentric aspect to the said substances. With methamphetamine its sort of a glassy feeling, with MDMA its adds to the super fluffy huggy sorta feeling. (yes I know the seretonin release is the main cause of this)
I suspect the methyl group may also have to do with the heightened OCD sort of effects that MDMA and meth can cause.
As far as Amphetamine goes, I've never tried it myself, but I've read lots of literature on it, saying it is alot less psycho than meth.


As for MDMA being more habit forming than MDA, look around. How hard is it to find MDMA at a party, vs MDA? People seem to like MDMA alot more in general. Neither are really all that habit forming, but as for which is more, I would definetly say MDMA. It's alot more convenient. Only a 4 hour high, and it puts you into a seretonin saturated self focused state where you can easily let go of anything that's bugging you. Sounds perfect for the working person, eh?

Habit forming does not always mean bad.

[Carmen]

Originally Posted by tested01

if you were at twisted and bought your there by any chance, they were probably from me.lol.

Haha naw my other buddy had some of those at the party for me. Thing is...first cap was pure shit. Don't think it was 'pure' mdma tho. I didn't feel anything. Then he gave me another one that had the same pic as the first one and all but the 2nd cap was more dusty and crumbled easily. So my other friend said that was "pure mdma" and I would just basically trip out...no speediness. I didn't take it tho so I was just wondering what those are like.

I don't think anything could ever compare to the White Unicorns I had in Seattle. Best caps ever. It was like a 5-hour peak.

[tested01]

yea.they were mellow caps, maybe just mellow for me, the people i gave em too "as gifts" LOL ugh said they enjoyed em, strong caps i guess.

[Carmen]

Harsh mellow and peak was only like half an hour. Took about 4 or 5 hours to peak too. Maybe I just kept comparing to Seattle caps...that's why it was shit ass.

[Knigel]

Originally Posted by Rytalin

(yeah I meant methyl group, woops)

Maybe I said it more matter-of-factly than I should have.
I'm basing it on observations of both MDMA, MDA and methamphetamine in my own brain, observations of other people's usage patterns with those substances, and other people's thoughts/observations of the effects mdma, mda, meth and amphetamine have on their brain. A chemist friend of mine confirmed with me what I thought about the methyl group or absence thereof in those substances.

What I've found is that the methyl group seems to add a boxed in, egocentric aspect to the said substances. With methamphetamine its sort of a glassy feeling, with MDMA its adds to the super fluffy huggy sorta feeling. (yes I know the seretonin release is the main cause of this)
I suspect the methyl group may also have to do with the heightened OCD sort of effects that MDMA and meth can cause.
As far as Amphetamine goes, I've never tried it myself, but I've read lots of literature on it, saying it is alot less psycho than meth.


As for MDMA being more habit forming than MDA, look around. How hard is it to find MDMA at a party, vs MDA? People seem to like MDMA alot more in general. Neither are really all that habit forming, but as for which is more, I would definetly say MDMA. It's alot more convenient. Only a 4 hour high, and it puts you into a seretonin saturated self focused state where you can easily let go of anything that's bugging you. Sounds perfect for the working person, eh?

Habit forming does not always mean bad.

So maybe this belongs in the creative writing section?

[Rytalin]

Originally Posted by Knigel

So maybe this belongs in the creative writing section?

oh fuck off.
can't you come up with something better?


:P

[penguinabc123]

knigel, not to sound like an ass, but you sound as if your withholding a wealth of information. whynot share with others like me whove been through the sites you list and still dont fully understand, other wise maybee crtisicsing info on here without any info of your own isnt the best idea. i know you know what your talking about, so show us.

p.s
tested01, haha nice avatar lol

[TheDude]

Remember to not go purely on the basis of name. I knew people who would brand a batch of mediocre tabs after whatever was the current rage. Another method which was a little more involved was to release large amounts of a new brand & make them really potent & once word was out they were cut heavily...all these little tricks of the trade.

Personally I get mine off of one source. Tiny gel caps that offer a very pure high. I have no problem falling asleep 4 hours later (even though still quite high). If I'm looking for something to dance with I will cut them with a little crystal, but just a pinch (1/5 point does it perfect).

I would love to try some MDA, but I find it hard to find a reliable source who knows exactly what they have (My guy doesnt supply MDA).

[jib monkey]

White doves are the shit! no sketching in the morning. The trip makes u feel so good without the retarded bouncy energy.