Taking advantage...

[SomeGuy]

ok.. what the hell is up with this.. why do people take advantage of each other while there drunk/high or whatever? I don't understand it, it's so easy to take advantage of someone and with that granted, why the fuck would you want to? That's like picking on someone cause there half your size.. One of my closest girlfriends told me to just fuck a girl if she's a slut and she's up for it, her defense was.. "while if she's a slut anyway's who cares?" and that's where the argument began.. if you know someone is a slut there probaly that way for a reason.. abuse, low self-esteem, wanting to be popular and fit in, so why would you take advantage of someone elses weakness? How come people never think about it in the reverse, what if you were that person being taken advantage of, how would you feel? So why make another person feel like shit if you wouldn't want that for yourself. Were on this earth to help each other, not to fuck each other over, this world fucks you over enough as it is.. Sorry about all this, it just upsets me to see guy's try and take advantage of my friends and then I have to be the one to step in and tell them to back the fuck off in order to protect them, I'm getting sick of it..

[Rhianna]

Were on this earth to help each other, not to fuck each other over, this world fucks you over enough as it is.

I totally agree with that. Life sucks enough as it is. Why make it harder for other people? Takeing addvantage of high or drunk people is easy, there is no accomplishment there. And I don't understand how just because someone is a slut that makes it okay to use them. Using people is stupid! Not only do you totally lower that persons self-esteem and hurt them, but chances are eventually you're going to be the one who gets used.
How would you feel if that "slut" was your sister or friend. And while were talking about it what makes a girl a "slut"? I hate how a girl can do something and she's looked at as a slut, yet if a guy were to do the same thing no one would notice or say anything. I know that double standard itsn't going to change anytime soon but its still annoying.

[SomeGuy]

Rhianna.. yah that's true it is a double standard.. But I guess you can say it works out both way's equally... If a guy makes out with a girl at a party he's in good with the boy's, but he's a player to the girls, or a pimp, man-whore(whatever), and if a girl does it she's a flirt, a slut, easy or whatever.... it's the same shit different story routine. People will alway's be ignorant and there are those of us that will alway's be stupid, I just don't bother hanging around with anyone that is ignorant or stupid anymore because it's a waist of time.

[crookedking]

yeup

[c.tard]

well i don't think it's right to take advantage of people when their drunk/high..

but the girls that do mess around with guys and stuff.. i'm sorry but it's partialy their fault. you should know you're limits and know how messed up you can get with what.. and if you're gonna go get that messed up around people you don't trust or anything then if something happens, i'd think it's partially you're ffault.. at least have someone to look out for you if you are gonna get that messed up..

but i still don't think it's right to take advantage of people either, but that's still gonna happen.. cause ppl suck like that.. [not all.. but some do]

[Cowboy]

Originally posted by SomeGuy
ok.. what the hell is up with this.. why do people take advantage of each other while there drunk/high or whatever? I don't understand it, it's so easy to take advantage of someone and with that granted, why the fuck would you want to? That's like picking on someone cause there half your size.. One of my closest girlfriends told me to just fuck a girl if she's a slut and she's up for it, her defense was.. "while if she's a slut anyway's who cares?" and that's where the argument began.. if you know someone is a slut there probaly that way for a reason.. abuse, low self-esteem, wanting to be popular and fit in, so why would you take advantage of someone elses weakness? How come people never think about it in the reverse, what if you were that person being taken advantage of, how would you feel? So why make another person feel like shit if you wouldn't want that for yourself. Were on this earth to help each other, not to fuck each other over, this world fucks you over enough as it is.. Sorry about all this, it just upsets me to see guy's try and take advantage of my friends and then I have to be the one to step in and tell them to back the fuck off in order to protect them, I'm getting sick of it..

everyone has different reasons for the actions they take....u can't jus assume that if a girl is being a slut ur only compounding the problem.....she might be sick of being lil miss innocent and is jealous of all the attention some of her friends are getting.....

sometimes people don't want to be protected.....

i had a girlfriend that always had these "issues"...be them family, friends, boys...whatever.....
no matter what advice i ever gave her....she would never take it......she would hear me but wouldn't listen...one day i got fed up with her ignoring my solutions.....her response was this...........she could be told everything right to do in her life...she could have the secret to success planned out for her....but she would not follow taht plan becuz she would rather know the answers first hand....
so even if the person was being a slut...that might be the choice they deep down...WANT to make........

and it could also be the fact that some girls can't muster up the courage to be persuaded by boys...or pursue a boy themselves...some girls need a couple of drinks in them before they can feel at ease with themselves.......if thats what they need then fine......whatever floats their boat......

ur friend is right...if the girl is up for it and wants to get with you...and u want to get with them..then i say go for it....don't start getting all psychological and determine whether this girls self-esteem is up to par before hand.....
she's doing that becuz she has no self-esteem...she needs to keep losing more of it before she realizes she's not being true to herself.....some have to hit bottom before they climb back to the top.....

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Were on this earth to help each other, not to fuck each other over, this world fucks you over enough as it is.

i partly disagree.....
sometimes u have to choose ur battles...don't fight battles ur not going to win.....fight battles where u actually have a chance.....
its unrealistic to think that u can change every slut that puts their hand on ur crotch......if its not u..it will be someone else.....
if u want u can take the moral high ground and not allow urself to take the oppurtunity when it knocks...but unless ur ready to sit down and talk about their upbringing simply not getting with them will not change a thing....

corrie

[~lazee_grrl~]

wut i don't like is the idiot people who use the drunkeness/highness as an excuse to make out with other people...
it wasn't me..it was the drugs...
yeah...wutever!

[SomeGuy]

Cowboy, Uh.. I think what you said is for the most part true and I wish I could believe in what you say and live by it but I can't because deep down inside I know that the person is impaired, which means they don't have there senses and I promised myself a long time ago that I never want to take advantage of someone. That's why I don't do a lot of thing's, even though I really want to have sex or do whatever I won't because unless I feel that the person I'm with know's exactly what there doing or the consequences of there actions than I would be taking advantage of them.
Jen: that's the only thing I hate too, they get drunk just to tell there friends, "oh I was so drunk last night I made out with so and so," using it as scapegoat for the nights escapades.
Cowboy: I have gotten to know girl's that do that kinda shit, I know a lotta girls, and when I got to know the ones that were like that they trusted me with shit they never told a soul before me and I found out that most of them have been abused, raped or just have an extremely low self-esteem and I try to help them threw there problems, I just get pissed off when things get going good for them and then some guy comes in and fucks around with them and messes up everything I just helped her get threw. So the journey starts all over again and I love my friends so I have one simple problem, I'd walk to the edge of the world for them and even in there stupidity I'd never turn my back on them, maybe that's just my stupidity?