why is all the <!> from Chilliwack so damm cheap ?

[yoshi242]

you can get them for $2.00 a pill

some are good some are bad, what are they cutting them with ?
they are stamped with a exclamation mark ?

i was told they do contain heroin / jibb-speed... just how much mdma do you think there putting in them nowadays for less than $2.00 a pill ???

[tiedye]

they're cut with ground cigarette butts and porcupine quills.

The ratio is: 2 parts cigarette butts
2.5 parts porcupine quills
1 part MDMA

enjoy!

[FeelGood]

2$ isn't that cheap.

i know people who deal who get them for 80-90 cents each.

the reasons they are so cheap could be either they are pressing a LARGE amount of them at a time, therefore buying LARGER amounts of ingredients.

cheap crappy mdma, or very low amounts are mixed in each pill.

who knows, lots of different combinations.

[Lil Jenna]

Originally Posted by yoshi242

you can get them for $2.00 a pill

some are good some are bad, what are they cutting them with ?
they are stamped with a exclamation mark ?

i was told they do contain heroin / jibb-speed... just how much mdma do you think there putting in them nowadays for less than $2.00 a pill ???

PLEASE educate yourself more about drugs. www.erowid.com is a good place to start.

[FeelGood]

Originally Posted by yoshi242

i was told they do contain heroin / jibb-speed...

you most LIKELY have been mis-informed.
the speed, i wouldnt doubt it.

heroin i HIGHLY doubt it. why does everybody assume if a pill is white/crumbly it contains herion? putting herion in a tab of ecstacy is pointless.

[fantasy20]

Originally Posted by eighty5

you most LIKELY have been mis-informed.
the speed, i wouldnt doubt it.

heroin i HIGHLY doubt it. why does everybody assume if a pill is white/crumbly it contains herion? putting herion in a tab of ecstacy is pointless.

so true... anyways why would anyone do a drug that they didnt know quite was was in it??? in my opinion e is a horible drug... just say no and smoke some blunts... thats the only way to go ...
or if you want to feel awake and messed up drink reb bull and vodka... thats what i do.

[tiedye]

^^^
because some people don't like alcohol, and some people don't like weed. Remember, just because you know what's in your beers and blunts doesn't mean they aren't drugs too. =)

[FeelGood]

Originally Posted by tiedye

Just because you know what's in your beers and blunts doesn't mean they aren't drugs too. =)

VERY TRUE

[Lil Jenna]

Originally Posted by eighty5

you most LIKELY have been mis-informed.
the speed, i wouldnt doubt it.
heroin i HIGHLY doubt it. why does everybody assume if a pill is white/crumbly it contains herion? putting herion in a tab of ecstacy is pointless.

A lot of pills now aren’t being pressed with speed. Well this is what I have been told. Because of the hash penalties (Thank god the drug is fucking disgusting) for making speed the street price is going up. There for being to expensive to put in cheep e. It’s as pointless as putting heroin in a pill.


Don’t do drugs ok?? You need those brain cells more than you think yoshi.

[FeelGood]

what a vast majority of people dont know is that when you take a tab of ecstacy and you get very energetic it doesnt ALWAYS mean that their was speed in the tab.

mdma is known for giving you boosts of energy.
speed in tabs of ecstacy isnt as common as most people think.

[wishbone]

because it's chilliwack

/end of thread.

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by eighty5

what a vast majority of people dont know is that when you take a tab of ecstacy and you get very energetic it doesnt ALWAYS mean that their was speed in the tab.

mdma is known for giving you boosts of energy.
speed in tabs of ecstacy isnt as common as most people think.

as well as prescription chemicals such as dexadrine, aphedrine, and I've even heard of herbal stimulants being used. Anything to make a buck.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Lil Jenna

A lot of pills now aren’t being pressed with speed. Well this is what I have been told. Because of the hash penalties (Thank god the drug is fucking disgusting) for making speed the street price is going up. There for being to expensive to put in cheep e. It’s as pointless as putting heroin in a pill.

Meth more expensive than MDMA?

You know the word Gullible's not in the dictionary?

[LaMzWeLL]

haahaha cheap E most likely means there is alot of junk it in...and very little MDMA....probably made in some guys bathtub. bathtub E = super sketch fest

[Max Lazarus]

Two bucks a fucking pill? I wouldn't feed that shit to anyone, Jebus only knows what kind of crap is in it. Buy up a dozen and get Dancesafe to test them if you're actually going to use that crap.

[MC Hammered]

Originally Posted by eighty5

what a vast majority of people dont know is that when you take a tab of ecstacy and you get very energetic it doesnt ALWAYS mean that their was speed in the tab.

mdma is known for giving you boosts of energy.
speed in tabs of ecstacy isnt as common as most people think.

Pure MDMA is expensive.

Meth is super cheap to produce. Like STUPID cheap compared to MDMA.

Pure MDMA give you a euphoric rush.

Meth when swallowed gives you a huge energy boost.

The 'MA' of MDMA is for Methamphetamine. MDMA is a close cousin to speed.

Most pills sold these days are cut with so much crap I would be amazed if there was 30% MDMA in the pill to begin with. The majority of the pills on the street right now are cut with meth or Ketamine.

Pure MDMA cannot be pressed into a tab without a binding agent as it crumbles back into power without one. Unless you know the maker the pill can be cut with anything from baby powder to Draino. And I have personally seen the Draino used.

Do a search in the archives with the term 'disclaimer' as I have posted tons in regards to this topic. What was true back then is still true now.

[BenGiovanni]

^^ Bang on right on the dot...
MDMA is expensive becuase
A) the process of yielding a nice white batch of MDMA is HELLA complicated and delicate (especially If synthesized with lab equiptment, the potentcy can be doubled if timed correctly... MDA can be made instead if the chemist gets lazy and doesnt finish the process properly..)
B) the chemicals that go into it are hard to get not to add highly controlled by the DEA (and bypassing that somehow takes time... see C. )
C) the time it takes to make it... time = money

compared to meth where...
A) The process of yielding a nice batch of METH is easy and usually can be done with making home made distillers out of tin cans. A fucking grandma can make it if she really was bored.
B) The chemicals can be bought in a department store and hardware store.
C) Its quick and cheap, aswell as highly addictive.

[FeelGood]

bottom line is ecstacy these days is SHIT, thanks to all the chemists who just want to make some profit.

if you are really wanting to know whats in your pills get it TESTED, buy a testing kit, and if you dont, then dont complain about shitty ecstacy.

[BenGiovanni]

or dont do it!
remember
narcs can dance too haha

[FeelGood]

telling a true raver not to pop caps at a rave is like telling a nun to have sex.
they dont listen.

[BenGiovanni]

LOL... a true raver is one thats there for the music
not drugs...

[FeelGood]

edit
should have said a 'hardcore raver' is there for the drugs.

[MC Hammered]

Originally Posted by eighty5

bottom line is ecstacy these days is SHIT, thanks to all the chemists who just want to make some profit.

if you are really wanting to know whats in your pills get it TESTED, buy a testing kit, and if you dont, then dont complain about shitty ecstacy.

Chemists make what they are paid to make.

It is the guy who decided to cut the MDMA he has with meth to dilute his investment before pressing that you have to blame. Before the Millenium there were some wicked, wicked presstabs out there. Green CU and White Doves come to mind and it is VERY hard to source such a quality produced pill thses days. They exist but you will have to go on a quest to find them.

As for testing a pill? A testing kit just tells you what might be in the pill, it doesn't tell you what is in it. Only a GCMS can do that and not everyone has access to one of those.

I actually have only known 3 people who have ever tested their E so the testing point is pretty moot.

[Clayton.]

I agree Green CU and the old White Doves were far better caps then any pressed tab you'll find today. My favourite was always Tom and Jerrys.



Caps now just make me feel sketchy and sick glad i don't bother with them any more.

[Asheai]

Originally Posted by MC Hammered

Chemists make what they are paid to make.

It is the guy who decided to cut the MDMA he has with meth to dilute his investment before pressing that you have to blame. Before the Millenium there were some wicked, wicked presstabs out there. Green CU and White Doves come to mind and it is VERY hard to source such a quality produced pill thses days. They exist but you will have to go on a quest to find them.

As for testing a pill? A testing kit just tells you what might be in the pill, it doesn't tell you what is in it. Only a GCMS can do that and not everyone has access to one of those.

I actually have only known 3 people who have ever tested their E so the testing point is pretty moot.

i think testing e is only really popular in the states. i have heard of raves down there where they have e testing stages and you can do it there (of course, those arent legal raves).

as for cheap e in chilliwack - i completely agree. i dont really do e too much anymore (very rarely) but i do know ppl who buy and they get it soooo cheap. it used to be like 10 dollars was cheap, and now if you are selling it at that you are making mad profit. of course, i dont know what other places the average price is, but some ppl i know in the city buy it for way more than you can get it here.

i have done some of the cheaper e recently, and it wasnt half bad. ive had a lot crappier and speedier e (im pretty sure i know what speedy e is like, i have read a lot about it and done it a lot - jaw clenching, twitchy eyes, nonstop talking... are all more from speedy shit), so my only guess is there must be some HUGE batches going around (plus the stuff I've seen hasn't been the stuff you desribed looking like, but different - cant remember).